GUILTY NV - Tammy Meyers, 44, fatally shot at her Las Vegas home, 12 Feb 2015 - #1

[HastingsChi]

From the Las Vegas Review Journal's latest article:

She was driving home Feb. 12 from Johnson Junior High School where she was teaching her 15-year-old daughter how to parallel park, the family said. She was in a crash with another car and sped home after the other driver threatened her, the family said. Tammy Meyers and her daughter arrived home, but the car followed and gunned down the mother before she could enter her house.

But Metro said there was no crash on the way home, and that Tammy Meyers and her 22-year-old son went out looking for the vehicle she had encountered earlier that evening. The son took his gun.

After finding the other car, Tammy Meyers and her son followed it, police said.

At some point, the other vehicle began following the mother and son. It went all the way to their home.

Someone in the other vehicle then opened fire, and Tammy Meyers was struck in the head.

http://m.reviewjournal.com/news/las...-arrested-shooting-initially-called-road-rage

 

[*JMO*]

I am just now also remembering the whopper told about the reason they were leaving the house in the first place..not because they were hunting him down, but because they were hiding the car in case the road rage strangers came cruising the neighborhood looking for them and recognized the car they had been in.

Yet, it turns out, that was another lie. Especially since there was no need to spot the car involved in the made up "collision" (that never happened) because the suspect knew the family and knew where they lived since he had spent time there eating meals and pulling his pants up!

I really wish I had a list of the lies told that all pointed away from the actual suspect in custody. I am beginning to theorize that the only reason LE got the suspect in custody is because the mother called them today. I think she called because he was being threatened by the son and probably the father and she was starting to fear for herself and the baby. The neighbors said there had been constant banging on the doors in last few days and members of the Meyers clan had been involved in that.

 

[Ian]

The trial shall be interesting, the suspects lawyers shall have a field day.

 

[nightwatch]

Exactly.

At this point, the only witnesses we've heard from have proven themselves to be less than honest.

Why should anyone automatically believe that the dude who was arrested today fired the first shot, or that he even fired a weapon at all?

Based on posts upthread describing BM's FB page, he appears to be a hothead (to put it mildly).

Sure, whomever was in the 'silver-or-grey-four-door-sedan' pulled into the cul-de-sac in front of the Meyer's house but, for all anyone knows, the shooter whose bullet ultimately killed TM may not have fired the first shots. IDK how LE will be able to figure out who fired first, though.

Eric will have defense lawyers lined up to defend him in this high profile case. Just a guess.

ciao

 

[HastingsChi]

Apparently the movies lie to us, it was my understanding from Pay It Forward that when someone who lives in Vegas is shot and killed in Vegas this is how the community responds:
http://youtu.be/ZOZ-l5blCnA

;-)

 

[newone]

Eric has the advantage of first man at the bat too! Maybe plea is in his future.....

 

[nightwatch]

I wonder if she turned him in because she knew her son was the one LE was looking for or b/c he threatened to harm himself?

Maybe he told her what happened and she turned him in to protect him. Idk seems she had banging on her door demanding to talk to him. Scary she also has a one month old baby to protect from what I understand. Jmo

ciao

 

[Tillicum]

How about this? Eric doesn't drive, doesn't have a car and doesn't have a license. Is the suspect in the sketch the actual driver and the one who threatened their lives? Is it possible they knew Eric but didn't know the driver? Is it possible they didn't know Eric was in the car or was the one who shot TM?

Also Dad was hundreds of miles away and the kids were probably bombarded with calls and voice mails from media leaving numbers where they can be reached. It's possible he called the media in hopes of stalling them until he could get home.

And no, I'm not making excuses for anybody, just trying to make some sense out of all the crazy :scared:

 

[sorrell skye]

What made Bob think that it would be helpful to the police investigation to withhold the fact that Tammy knew Erich Nowsch quite well?

You know there's something suspect going on in your life when you think that it's better to call your 20 year old son and ask him to be armed outside the house to help instead of calling law enforcement or driving to a police station.

My youngest daughter (a teenager at the time) & I were the targets of a road rage incident about 10 years ago. It was very frightening. To this day, whenever I watch videos of bona fide road rage incidents, it brings back the memory of our experience, as well as the sheer terror we felt. After pulling into a Lowe's parking lot to try to escape the road-rager, I called 911 and gave the dispatcher the plate number & a description of the vehicle.

We didn't know the lunatic who road-raged us but, even if we had, I wouldn't have gone home & got a gun to go hunt him down. That's plain crazy. I still would have called 911 and let the police handle it.

IMO, there's no good reason why TM & BM went out armed, looking for this guy. I seriously doubt the road rage incident ever happened. Unless surveillance footage captured the so-called 'road rage' incident, I will remain skeptical.

If the son & daughter had told the unvarnished truth from the beginning, I'd be willing to believe their accounts.

As it is, well...

 

[*JMO*]

I know grief is deeply personal and losing your life partner in such a sudden and violent act could explain some inexplicable thoughts and behavior. But I have to say, for someone in the midst of the most horrible grief he puts some odd things on his facebook. That's all.

 

[newone]

How about this? Eric doesn't drive, doesn't have a car and doesn't have a license. Is the suspect in the sketch the actual driver and the one who threatened their lives? Is it possible they knew Eric but didn't know the driver? Is it possible they didn't know Eric was in the car or was the one who shot TM?

Also Dad was hundreds of miles away and the kids were probably bombarded with calls and voice mails from media leaving numbers where they can be reached. It's possible he called the media in hopes of stalling them until he could get home.
And no, I'm not making excuses for anybody, just trying to make some sense out of all the crazy :scared:

bbm : excellent point - wanting to keep control of the situation is hard when you are away so by contacting media he's creating another information/protection layer for himself and potentially his family. LE would talk to media and of course media would be wanting to talk to him and they could exchange information -- of course media would be doing him the service and not the other way around MOO

 

[IBsleuthin]

IMO someone described Michael Myers from the Halloween movies to a sketch

I just hope that I never look like my suspect sketch!

 

[SStarr33]

My youngest daughter (a teenager at the time) & I were the targets of a road rage incident about 10 years ago. It was very frightening. To this day, whenever I watch videos of bona fide road rage incidents, it brings back the memory of our experience, as well as the sheer terror we felt. After pulling into a Lowe's parking lot to try to escape the road-rager, I called 911 and gave the dispatcher the plate number & a description of the vehicle.

We didn't know the lunatic who road-raged us but, even if we had, I wouldn't have gone home & got a gun to go hunt him down. That's plain crazy. I still would have called 911 and let the police handle it.

IMO, there's no good reason why TM & BM went out armed, looking for this guy. I seriously doubt the road rage incident ever happened. Unless surveillance footage captured the so-called 'road rage' incident, I will remain skeptical.

If the son & daughter had told the unvarnished truth from the beginning, I'd be willing to believe their accounts.

As it is, well...

The LE guy who gave the interview/presser today was still calling it a road rage incident.

 

[katydid23]

The trial shall be interesting, the suspects lawyers shall have a field day.

Absolutely. The defense attorneys will have all of the witnesses, on paper, LYING about the incident. Story after bogus story, the whole lot of them. They are handing the suspect an entire basket of 'reasonable doubt' to take to the jury trial.

 

[IBsleuthin]

My youngest daughter (a teenager at the time) & I were the targets of a road rage incident about 10 years ago. It was very frightening. To this day, whenever I watch videos of bona fide road rage incidents, it brings back the memory of our experience, as well as the sheer terror we felt. After pulling into a Lowe's parking lot to try to escape the road-rager, I called 911 and gave the dispatcher the plate number & a description of the vehicle.

We didn't know the lunatic who road-raged us but, even if we had, I wouldn't have gone home & got a gun to go hunt him down. That's plain crazy. I still would have called 911 and let the police handle it.

IMO, there's no good reason why TM & BM went out armed, looking for this guy. I seriously doubt the road rage incident ever happened. Unless surveillance footage captured the so-called 'road rage' incident, I will remain skeptical.

If the son & daughter had told the unvarnished truth from the beginning, I'd be willing to believe their accounts.

As it is, well...

We had a similar incident just this summer and we were way out on a rural road. It's VERY scary, the person is already acting erratically. That's the beautiful thing about cell phones, call 911 tell them where we are at and there was a state trouper on scene within minutes.

Years and years ago, (I'm saying like 40 years ago) people use to get out and try to handle these things themselves. Not anymore.

 

[Rocco]

Absolutely. The defense attorneys will have all of the witnesses, on paper, LYING about the incident. Story after bogus story, the whole lot of them. They are handing the suspect an entire basket of 'reasonable doubt' to take to the jury trial.

And the icing on the cake will have to be the offering up of the El Camino as a reward for information leading to the suspect when the family already knew who the suspect was. I can see the jurors shaking their heads in unison in disbelief when that's addressed.

 

[LayzeeDayzee]

Speaking in general, it would make sense to me that in a drive-by type shooting like this, that it's not going to be the driver of the car who's doing the shooting......it would be someone else in the car....one of the passengers does the shooting, the 'driver' focuses only on driving. So the fact that this kid has no car/no license seems somewhat irrelevant to me......in fact it makes sense that the 'shooter' would be one of the passengers

How about this? Eric doesn't drive, doesn't have a car and doesn't have a license. Is the suspect in the sketch the actual driver and the one who threatened their lives? Is it possible they knew Eric but didn't know the driver? Is it possible they didn't know Eric was in the car or was the one who shot TM?

Also Dad was hundreds of miles away and the kids were probably bombarded with calls and voice mails from media leaving numbers where they can be reached. It's possible he called the media in hopes of stalling them until he could get home.

And no, I'm not making excuses for anybody, just trying to make some sense out of all the crazy :scared:

 

[jjenny]

Not having a driver's license doesn't mean this guy couldn't have been the one driving either.

 

[Rocco]

Speaking in general, it would make sense to me that in a drive-by type shooting like this, that it's not going to be the driver of the car who's doing the shooting......it would be someone else in the car....one of the passengers does the shooting, the 'driver' focuses only on driving. So the fact that this kid has no car/no license seems somewhat irrelevant to me......in fact it makes sense that the 'shooter' would be one of the passengers

Was it reported that the car was moving when the shots were fired? If it had come to a stop, then that might change things. As far as the exchange of fire, how will they ever be able to prove who shot first? They won't be able to rely on the witnesses because it will be obvious and clear to a jury that they lie. That right there screams reasonable doubt/self defense.

 

[Yoda]

I just hope that I never look like my suspect sketch!

:waitasec: