NV - Tesla Cybertruck explosion at Trump hotel in Vegas investigated as a possible terrorist act, 1 Jan 2025

[FansBlowing]

Okay, if that was actually him, then the explosion might have been to conceal his time of death. Those Tesla cars can probably be remote control driven, especially by others who work in Special Forces on drones.

 

[indicolite22]

Okay, if that was actually him, then the explosion might have been to conceal his time of death. Those Tesla cars can probably be remote control driven, especially by others who work in Special Forces on drones.

Sounds like a movie script to me. His watch might tell when he died anyway.

 

[Friday Fan]

I have so many questions. Was Matthew Livelsberger actually seen on video as the driver of the Tesla on his route and his many stops to charge the vehicle? Someone could have killed him and stole his identity and phone. Someone else, using his ID, could have rented the Tesla and took it on a joy ride to Las Vegas. That same person could have texted random people and all the old girlfriends in his phone out of the blue. His body was burned beyond recognition and he was only identified by his ID? Was that even Matthew then? Why can't they use DNA to identify his body to be sure? He was Special Forces and his job was to work on drones? Does this have anything to do with all the recent drone sighting in NJ and elsewhere?

He has been positively identified. Yesterday morning they said they were waiting on DNA. Yesterday afternoon, the Medical Examiner positively ID'd him and listed his manner of death as suicide and cause of death: GSW to the mouth. So it's official.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi-looks-any-link-between-tesla-explosion-new-orleans-attack-2025-01-02/

 

[JDG]

How does one detonate a blast AFTER committing suicide?

 

[Ruthbullock]

How does one detonate a blast AFTER committing suicide?

A lit long fuse timed to detonate afterwards. Light the fuse and then shoot yourself. This then makes me wonder why you would do both and set it up that way, although it was suggested either way could be non fatal, combining both would be more guaranteed to be successful. That is an intensely pressured way to proceed as well- starting a timed explosion and then firing a weapon at yourself- but he was possibly well trained to deal with that kind of high pressure situation.

 

[lonetraveler]

Or someone else wanted it known it was him. All JMO

Yes. And I have a problem with how sloppy the explosives and 'bombs' were put together. This man was regarded as a "super soldier" and probably could have made bombs with his eyes closed. Can't figure this one out.

 

[lonetraveler]

It appears that he might have had personal reasons - his wife mentioned a dispute about the accusations of infidelity.

Wonder if he thought that the baby may not be his and couldn't take it.

 

[acutename]

How does one detonate a blast AFTER committing suicide?

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[Friday Fan]

Yes. And I have a problem with how sloppy the explosives and 'bombs' were put together. This man was regarded as a "super soldier" and probably could have made bombs with his eyes closed. Can't figure this one out.

It's been confirmed it was him. I believe it was confirmed with DNA.

He was stationed in Germany and came to Colorado to visit his wife and baby for Christmas.
His wife kicked him out of the house at Christmas and it's kinda hard to "order bomb parts" when you're kicked out of the house. He left for LV on Dec 28th.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

In a statement released Friday, Andre Haddad said he is heartbroken and outraged that the two men, Matthew Alan Livelsberger, 37, and Shamsud-Din Jabbar, 42, “abused our platform.” He added both men “had valid driver’s licenses, clean criminal backgrounds, and were decorated U.S. military servicemembers.”

https://www.8newsnow.com/news/local-news/turo-ceo-reacts-to-las-vegas-cybertruck-bombing-new-orleans-terror-attack/

 

[indicolite22]

Wonder if he thought that the baby may not be his and couldn't take it.

It was mentioned in later reports that his wife broke up with him at around Christmas because she suspected him of cheating.

 

[lonetraveler]

IIUC - so it seems that the infidelity was on the part of the now deceased suspect ML? MOO

So she said.

 

[lonetraveler]

It was mentioned in later reports that his wife broke up with him at around Christmas because she suspected him of cheating.

Sorry, trying to catch up. Anyway, that is her story.

 

[indicolite22]

Sorry, trying to catch up. Anyway, that is her story.

She probably has receipts. I doubt he would kill himself if it was him who suspected her of infidelity.

 

[Sundog]

JMO, the choice of auto, location and the use of high powered explosives that were a danger to others is more than enough to justify calling it terrorism. It’s only by luck that others weren’t killed. Terrorists don’t always bother to leave a manifesto.

Just because the criminal is a member of the Green Berets doesn’t mean he’s entitled to special privileges. He’s a common criminal, like other terrorists. No heroism or pity is warranted for him, JMO

Definitely terrorism, and let's not forget that he set off high powered explosives in front of a venue related to the President-Elect of the United States and one of the President-Elect's close associates. That, in itself, should qualify as a terrorist act, regardless of the offender's political or other views.

We also don't know if he planned to carry out a plan to mow down people in Las Vegas on New Year's day or New Year's eve, similar to the terrorism in New Orleans. So far the authorities are saying it is unlikely, but it is still under investigation. Did he arrive too late to do what his original plan was and so just go to step 2 and find a place to commit suicide and set off the explosives? Did the trip take him longer than he thought it would, given the need to keep stopping to re-charge the cybertruck? Or did he have second thoughts about driving on the strip and mowing down people in Las Vegas?

I think that ultimately he was going to commit suicide, but until the matter is thoroughly investigated it is possible that he planned to take out others with him. We just don't know yet.

Was he partially radicalized overseas before he returned for the holidays?
Still too early to know, IMO, let the FBI and others investigate which will take time.

 

[Sundog]

He could have made a lot more harm if he intended to.

<snipped for focus>

Maybe he planned to, but changed him mind and detonated the explosives then shot himself.

 

[Sundog]

I don't think he was "afraid" of a Trump admin. He was a Trump supporter.

His wife left him and he also had traumatic brain injury.

I think Musk and Trump were simply a bright shiny object at a place to stage his suicide.

And President-Elect Trump would soon be his new commander-in-chief. Not sure if that might have played into the choice of location at some level.

 

[indicolite22]

<snipped for focus>

Maybe he planned to, but changed him mind and detonated the explosives then shot himself.

His relative meant that he could/would have used more powerful explosives.

 

[PrairieWind]

Definitely terrorism, and let's not forget that he set off high powered explosives in front of a venue related to the President-Elect of the United States and one of the President-Elect's close associates. That, in itself, should qualify as a terrorist act, regardless of the offender's political or other views.

We also don't know if he planned to carry out a plan to mow down people in Las Vegas on New Year's day or New Year's eve, similar to the terrorism in New Orleans. So far the authorities are saying it is unlikely, but it is still under investigation. Did he arrive too late to do what his original plan was and so just go to step 2 and find a place to commit suicide and set off the explosives? Did the trip take him longer than he thought it would, given the need to keep stopping to re-charge the cybertruck? Or did he have second thoughts about driving on the strip and mowing down people in Las Vegas?

I think that ultimately he was going to commit suicide, but until the matter is thoroughly investigated it is possible that he planned to take out others with him. We just don't know yet.

Was he partially radicalized overseas before he returned for the holidays?
Still too early to know, IMO, let the FBI and others investigate which will take time.

I think this should of course be thoroughly investigated and all leads followed. But I don't see anything yet that leads to terrorism. It seems like a suicide, though it is strange for sure. These weren't high powered explosives, they were fireworks. That is pretty low power. Given his training and experience, if he had wanted to injury or kill people, he could have. But I am guessing this tragedy is just spilling out of a domestic dispute. But i think the investigation should proceed.

 

[indicolite22]

And President-Elect Trump would soon be his new commander-in-chief. Not sure if that might have played into the choice of location at some level.

He wouldn't be happy if he knew that Trump labeled his act terrorism. This guy wasn't thinking straight and acted on impulse. A broken marriage wasn't worth dying for. He had a history of unstable relationships and depression.