NV NV - Wellington, WhtMale 574UMNV, 35-50, off Sand Canyon Road, Mar'92 - #1

[carbuff]

this would be looking up and seeing the feet or the underbelly.

View attachment 72921

This is how it looks to me, with the feet either tucked up or perhaps forward so they're lost in the stained part of the drawing.

 

[Miss Muffet]

I'm seeing the same tail and wings you guys are seeing. I don't think the head is cocked upside down in that image that came up in the lightbox though. I feel it's flying wings spread outward and flying upwards.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I hope the lead pans out. *Keeping my fingers crossed*

 

[GGE]

Suggestion:

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/8481/10/

Charles Edward Davis age 49-50 when he went missing April 29, 1988 from Texas, strawberry blonde hair, 6' - 6'2", 150-160 pounds, dental records available

 

[Miss Muffet]

15 Best Search Engines to Find Photos on the Internet

http://www.quickonlinetips.com/archives/2008/01/find-best-photo-image-search-engines-online/

 

[Miss Muffet]

Follow me here:

I was looking at this drawing in an image search. I believe others have posted it here.

The image description says Sea and Sage Audubon. This is their logo today on their website.

Guess where Sea and Sage Audubon is located?

ORANGE COUNTY

Is it possible their logo over 20 years ago was similar to our design?

I can't find when this chapter was established.

http://www.seaandsageaudubon.org/Chapter/OurChapter.html

Possible? Or am I connecting too many dots?

 

[rainwater]

Delurking to make a suggestion: Northern Nevada has sheep farms. Typing "sheep farms in northern Nevada near Wellington " into a search engine brings up over 100 farms. I don't want to post the links to the individual farms because they are commercial sites (one farm has posted that the 2015 Spring lambs have just arrived). One of the farms in Wellington also advertises itself as a "guest ranch". Northern Nevada also has cattle ranches.

Maybe the UID was travelling looking for work as a sheepherder on one of the farms or on a cattle ranch. For LE, it might be worth canvassing the farms with the dog photo to see if anyone remembers the dog. Just MOO, but the dog looks like he/she could be a "working dog" as opposed to a "pet". Farms use dogs to help herd sheep and cattle from the fields, trails, and pastures.

 

[enzeder]

I think this is the pose we are seeing only tilted to the right a bit more. I am sketching it out and we definitely don't have the head.

Yes, I think this is similar to the 'pose' too. Without tilting the pic's and doing a side by side comparison, the image below shows pretty much how I'm seeing the image on the T Shirt might look like.

http://cdn.designbyhumans.com/product/design/u780064/pr72616-2-1216816-650x450-b-p-000000.jpg

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Follow me here:

I was looking at this drawing in an image search. I believe others have posted it here.

The image description says Sea and Sage Audubon. This is their logo today on their website.

Guess where Sea and Sage Audubon is located?

ORANGE COUNTY

Is it possible their logo over 20 years ago was similar to our design?

I can't find when this chapter was established.

http://www.seaandsageaudubon.org/Chapter/OurChapter.html

Possible? Or am I connecting too many dots?

Sure it is possible. Here is the FB page: https://www.facebook.com/seaandsageaudubon You might want to inquire if they had a similar logo used on t-shirts back in 80s/early 90s. I am not sure I would tell them exactly why you are asking, however.

ETA: Founded in 1958.

 

[Miss Muffet]

Look at this.

We need to find the hawk one. It's a long shot. It's probably not flying.

 

[wenwe4]

(p = post number on this thread that has the link to more information)
Alpha NV UID¬¬
A
Alley, John W 5’11 brown age 29 (p253) #71
Allgood, Kim L (*aka Galloway, Randy) 5’10 – 6’2” straw blonde (p254) #72
Ashby, Michael E 6’1 Red age 23 (rpt missing after date) (p222) #61
Ashley, Richard = R/O Dental (p117) #11
B
Baker, Jeffrey J 6’ brown (p213) #49
Beich, Bobby 5’11 brown (p51,103,147) #8 pending
Belliveau, Edmond J Jr 6’0 brown age 33 (p227) #65 (Canada)
Birchfield, Daniel A 5’ 6’2 Straw blonde (p137) #24
Black, David M 6’0 blonde (p158) #3 pending R/O
Bogart, Arden Jr 6’ brown age 24 dentals avail (p218) #57
Bonner, Mark 6’3 straw blonde age 24 (p544) #90
Bowman, William D 6’2 brown age 33 (p153) #28
Bratton, David 6’0 red age 27 (p300) #77
Breaux, Adam J 5'11 brown (dark?) age 50 (p534) #89 dentals/dna avail
Brennan, William 5’11 brown age 39 (p245) #69
Butler, Charles M 6’0 black hair? Age 46 (p242) #68
C
Cain, Frederick 6’0 Red/Auburn age 41 (p71,216) #12
Carlstrom, Brian E 6’0 Straw age 26 (p609) #93 dental/dna avail
Cassada, William B 5”11 – 6’3 red age 37 (p600) #91
Clarke, Michael T 6’0 – 7’ age 40-50 (p159) #36
Chouinard, Michael 60 blonde age 28 (p217) #54
D
Davies, Charles R III 5’11 age 24 brown missing L eye tooth (p154) #30
Davis, Charles Edward 6' - 6'2", straw blonde age mid 50’s (p724) #95 dental avail
Dearmon, Howard 6’1 brown/bald age 52 (p208) #46
Denninger, Donald 6’, black (p446) #84
Dimick, James T 6’1 age 30 (p137) #26
Douglas, Barry K 6’0 Red age 31 (p71) #17
E
Eddy, Michael Rolf 6’0 brown (looks lighter) age 46 (p366) #79
Ervin, Kyle III 6’1 brown age 26 dentals/dna avail (p222) #64
F
Fernandex, Raymond J 6’0 – 6’1 Sandy age 47 (p357) #78
Fiala, Joseph 6’2 Straw Blonde (p137) #25
Flowers, John W 6’1 brown age 44 (p231) #67
G
Gale, Edward E (aka Long, Joe*) 6’2 brown age 36 (p604) #92 dental avail
Garrison, Theodore W 6’0 brown (p534) #85
Galloway, Randy (aka *Allgood,Kim) 5’10 – 6’2” straw blonde (p254) #72
Garmire, Brenton 6’3 brown (p158) rugged outdoorsman #32
Geppert, John H III 5’10 – 6’ light brown age 33 (fx collar bone) (p377) #80
Goddard, Jason M 6’2 blonde(red?) age 20 (p213) #51
Gove, Michael B 5’9 brown age 41 (p217) R/O Dental/height (p221) #53
H
Hagel, Roy J 6’ brown age 38 (p222) #58
Haines, Joey Johnathan 6’1 straw blonde age 26 (p259,266) #74 WS thread
Heines, Clinton 6’3 blonde age 32 (p222) #62
Hickman, Wayne W 6’1 brown age mid 30’s #83
Hoffman, Allen A 5’10 blonde age 25 (teeth #3,14,30) (p202) #37
Holmen, Curtis A 6’5 blonde/red age 31 (p218) hair looks close #55
Huffman, Christopher = R/O dental (p277) #4
I
J
Johnston, Sidney E 6’0 brown age 47 (p534) #86
Jones, Curtis W 6’0 – 6’1 red age 47 (p129) #19 *DNA requested

K
Kellar, Robert R 6’0 brown (close in color) age 20 (p383) #82
Kreyche, J = R/O dna (p29) #1
Kuhlman, Robert Lewis 6’4 red age 34 (p691) #94 dentals avail
L
Leach, Randy W 6’ brown age 22ish dentals/dna avail levi’s (p222) #59
Long, Joe (aka Gale, Edward E*) 6’2 brown age 36 (p604) #92 dental avail
Longman, Randy W 5’11 brown age 27 (p222) #60
Lopez, Gordon B 6’2 – 6’5” Dark Brn to Red age 21 (p71) #15
Lovely, David V 6’4 brown(red?) mid 20’s (p208) #42
Lutas, George 6’ brown age 26 (p256) #73
M
Matthews, Paul A 5’11” Red age 26 (p71) #16
McFarlin, Thomas L 5’10 – 6’3 red/brown age 34 (p157,193) #31
Meer, Douglas = R/O dna (p29) #2
Meyer, Richard S 5’10 dark brown age 39 (p218) #56
Michaud, Thomas A 6’1 brown/bald approx mid 30’s (p380) #81
Mize, David W 5'10 brn age 28 #88 (p534) dentals/dna avail
Moody, Thomas 5’11 brown (p158) #34
Moreau, Timothy D tall red hair age 21 (p208) #43
Morris, Teddy 5’10 brown missing teeth (p158) R/O Dental (p194) #35
N
Negeulourart, Louis 6’1 brown age 61 (p202) #39
Newcombe, Ralph A 5’11 brown age 35 (p213) #48
O
O’Brian, Barry B 6’2 brown age 34 (p257) #74
O’Carroll, Jeffrey L 5’10 – 6’ age 36 (p208) #41
O’Kane, Timothy R 6’2 – 6’4” brown age 28-34, (P118,233) #9
P
Page, Gordon T 6’0 – 6’3” brown (p111) #18 R/O Dental (p121)
Patterson, Kenneth B 5’9 – 6’2 age 28 (p137) #22
Peranteau, Clifford R 6’1 blonde age 23 (p60,157,197) #10
Post, Stanley 6’0 brown (p158) #33
Proctor, James L 6’ brown age 47 (p208) #44
Q
R
Ranken, Brian = R/O Dental (p36) #5
Robinson, Luke 6’0 – 6’2 brown age 24 (p154) missing 2 teeth #29
S
Simmons, Jack Red/Auburn age 24 p71 Not Considered (p190) #14
Sloat, Rodney L 6’1 brown age 31 (p227) #66 (Canada)
Smith, Luther V 6’0 sandy (p202) #38
Smith, Michael (p135) #20 R/O Dental (p142)
Sparrow, Timothy 6’3 Red/Auburn age 40 (p71) #13
Spencer Dean T (p38) – Temp R/O (not at this time) #7
Stansberry, Clyde E 5’11 brown red/auburn age 44 (p246) #70
Stonecipher, William C 5’10 blonde age 32 (p222) #63
Storkson, Billy 5’9 age 36 (p216) #52
Strassburger, Dale W 5’8 – 6’2” Straw Blonde age 35 (p137) #27
Stricklin, Michael K 6'1 brown age 30 (p534) #87 no dental dna?

T
Turpin, Daniel R 6’ brown age 26 (p213) #50
U
V
Vaughan, Wallace L 5’10 brown age 27 (p144,145,146) #21 R/O Height (p150)
Vucurevich, Milan Jr 6’5” brown/grey age 44 (p267) #76
W
Wagner, John W 5’10 brown (p204,209) Possible R/0 (p219) #47
Wakefield, Bradley J 6’1 brown (p208) #45
Ware, Kenneth T 6’ straw blonde age 22 (p137) #23
X
Y
Z
Zinza, James 6’1 sandy (p38) #6

 

[Steleheart]

Neckband, we have not ever mentioned if we found the neckband of the t-shirt. There was no tag that we could find.

That's true, you have not mentioned that, LOL

My partner and I are working a lead on this case which we can't discuss (I know that is a big tease, I'm sorry). We would request that the forum keep digging for us while we vet this information. We need the list of possibles to continue so that we can continue to check and rule out. We will update the rule outs this weekend if I have time.

I so hope that pans out and no worries - it's not a tease. Good to know there is, in fact a lead.

Thanks I saw a post mentioning the neck band and was postulating if it was intact. This was posted on namus

"T-shirt present on remains around neck and right arm. An imprint, possibly of feather was noted on the shirt."
https://identifyus.org/cases/7582

When I saw this originally I assumed the neck band is there just separated from the image for forensic testing. My only interest was how the band would relate to the orientation of the image and I think we determined that based on the ribbing in the shirt that the image is horizontal as shown in the pictures.

MOO

 

[Miss Muffet]

Sure it is possible. Here is the FB page: https://www.facebook.com/seaandsageaudubon You might want to inquire if they had a similar logo used on t-shirts back in 80s/early 90s. I am not sure I would tell them exactly why you are asking, however.

ETA: Founded in 1958.

Look at this yellow logo on the book from the facebook page photos:

Maybe we need to be looking at old fashioned bird books.

 

[Skully]

This is the angel I am talking about. I may have to sit down tomorrow and just draw it out.

 

[Skully]

15 Best Search Engines to Find Photos on the Internet

http://www.quickonlinetips.com/archives/2008/01/find-best-photo-image-search-engines-online/

Thank you is not enough here, I never knew you could do this. I have to bookmark this for other searches.

 

[Skully]

I may have missed this information but do we know if the car was stolen? I know they tracked down the owner, but if it was stolen, did he know when and where it went missing? Because maybe that is a lead in of it's self. Did he ever see the composite drawing of the UID person? Maybe he would remember something from the photo or the T shirt. I know the car was found before the body, but did they go back? I am assuming they did.

 

[Miss Muffet]

Thank you is not enough here, I never knew you could do this. I have to bookmark this for other searches.

Some of them are good. Some of them are terrible. Some just bring up a hundred or so, but the images are more accurate search results. You have to use "less" search words it seems in most of them.

 

[Miss Muffet]

I may have missed this information but do we know if the car was stolen? I know they tracked down the owner, but if it was stolen, did he know when and where it went missing? Because maybe that is a lead in of it's self. Did he ever see the composite drawing of the UID person? Maybe he would remember something from the photo or the T shirt. I know the car was found before the body, but did they go back? I am assuming they did.

We know nothing about the car or what resulted from talking to the owner. All we know is there was a car 5 months prior, the type of car, and the state it was registered.

 

[Miss Muffet]

I may have to sit down tomorrow and just draw it out.

That might be a nice break from here.

"On the seventh day, she rested."

I'm feeling the above tonight big time.

 

[Steleheart]

Nice picture of a Northern harrier from here, that I flipped on the horiz.

http://www.heisingart.com/Hawks/NHarrier Cos_003w.JPG