NY - Five men gang rape 18 yo woman in Brooklyn playground, January 2016

[jjenny]

I wonder if the daughter feels the dad betrayed her by leaving.... Part of me thinks if Dad stayed and did end up injured or worse, in the daughter's eyes, that may seem more honorable than him leaving her there alone.

If I was faced with fighting five young males (one reportedly armed), I would know I am not going to win. Therefore I would have done the same thing, gone to get help. I guess a lot of people would prefer this guy got beat up (or worse). It's easy to judge while not actually having to deal with the situation. I would like to see how many of the armchair warriors would actually fight when faced with this type of situation (my guess most of them only think they would).

 

[bluesneakers]

I wonder if the daughter feels the dad betrayed her by leaving.... Part of me thinks if Dad stayed and did end up injured or worse, in the daughter's eyes, that may seem more honorable than him leaving her there alone.

I hope she understands he wasn't abandoning her, although in the moment it must have felt like that. It's a cruel, terrible situation for any one to be placed in. Just guessing - her feelings are going to be complicated and overwhelming.

JMO

 

[bwt42]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...ayground-rape-claim-consent-article-1.2492967

Teens claim sex was consensual. BTW one suspect had a prior for attempted murder & another had a prior arrest for robbery. Only in America.

 

[jjenny]

14 to 17, one with a prior arrest for attempted murder and another for robbery. And out on the street. It's like a revolving door.

 

[katydid23]

Oh sure, RIGHT…consensual sex. Lots of teens agree to have consensual sex with FIVE strangers in the park, on cold wet nights. Especially when they are there with their Father.

 

[pappa rob]

Sorry if this has been posted. http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/news...sts-were-turned-in-by-their-parents/vi-CCoX5d Two Of The Alleged Teen Gang Rapists Were Turned In By Their Parents

 

[dotr]

rbbm.

The Brooklyn dad who ran away while his 18-year-old daughter was being gang-raped at gunpoint walked into two local delis to try to get help — but was too drunk for anyone to understand him, witnesses said Monday.

http://nypost.com/2016/01/11/two-teens-busted-in-alleged-gang-rape-say-it-was-consensual/

While two of them claim it was consensual sex, a third suspect said he was only at the playground for a short time and didn’t engage in any sexual activity with the girl, sources said. The fourth teen in custody is refusing to talk, sources added. The fifth suspect is still on the lam.

The victim told cops that she and her 39-year-old dad — who she only recently reconnected with after being adopted — were drinking beer near the handball courts at the Osborn Playground in Brownsville around 9 p.m. Thursday “to be away from the police,” sources said.

Their plan backfired when five teens, including one with a gun, confronted them and ordered the father to scram, the pair told cops.

 

[Sonya610]

If a clerk in a store would not allow the father to call LE, then the clerk should face charges. At the very least 'obstruction of justice'. Hope they catch the rest soon.

The father never TOLD the clerk that his daughter was being attacked by a group of men, he just asked to use the phone to call the police.

If he had screamed that his daughter was being attacked by a group of men nearby I do think the clerk and any other stranger on the street with a cell phone would have called 911 for him, but he didn't do that.

I find this story to be very very odd as well. Something doesn't add up. Why was the father and his teenage daughter drinking beer in a park after dark? Why did the teens simply send the father away to summon the authorities when they could have held him there until they were done? Why didn't he tell the clerk to call 911 and say a woman was being attacked?

Too many questions. I also think there is more to this story.

The exact circumstances of the alleged crime — and why there was a delay in reporting it — remained unclear on Monday, even as outrage built in the neighborhood.

But a short-order cook at one deli confirmed that a man had come in looking upset and asked to use the phone to call the police. The cook, Mac Atran, said the man didn't say anything about his daughter being attacked and a manager sent him away.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-new-york-teen-group-rape-20160111-story.html

 

[dotr]

It is good to see the men in the community , as well as the women,raise their voices in condemnation of this shameful and cruel crime. imo.
Video.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...-Suspect-Sought-Mayor-Responds-364907781.html

Police are searching for a fifth suspect in the gang rape of a woman in a Brooklyn park as furious residents and outraged officials try to grapple with the abhorrent crime in their midst.

"I think all over the city we are feeling anger and disgust at this horrible act, this poor young woman attacked by teenagers, her father forced away by gunpoint," Mayor Bill de Blasio said at a news conference Monday.

"I feel this very personally. I am the father of a young woman," the mayor said. "This is the kind of thing that deeply, deeply troubles me and it's an intolerable situation. We're going to fight to make sure young women don't go through this type of tragedy."

 

[jjenny]

Fifth suspect is still on the run.
Victim had physical injuries.

http://www.newsday.com/news/new-yor...-suspected-in-brooklyn-sex-assault-1.11315545

 

[bluesneakers]

rbbm.



http://nypost.com/2016/01/11/two-teens-busted-in-alleged-gang-rape-say-it-was-consensual/

From the link.

“I could just tell [he was wasted] by the way he was acting,’’ said a worker at Brownsville Plaza.
Surveillance video from the store shows the victim’s father walking inside before he begins to chat with two men. He does not appear to be frantic or in distress.

After walking out of the store, the dad drunkenly ran past a marked police car before eventually circling back and alerting the cops to his daughter’s attack — 20 minutes after the alleged rape first began to unfold, sources said.

What... ?

 

[bluesneakers]

It is good to see the men in the community , as well as the women,raise their voices in condemnation of this shameful and cruel crime. imo.
Video.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...-Suspect-Sought-Mayor-Responds-364907781.html

I don't think #5 is going to be free much longer. Someone is going to turn him in.

 

[jjenny]

Oh sure, RIGHT…consensual sex. Lots of teens agree to have consensual sex with FIVE strangers in the park, on cold wet nights. Especially when they are there with their Father.

And from what has been reported, she has physical injuries. But claims that sex was consensual is pretty standard in rape cases. It's either that, or "I didn't do it" which one of them claims.

 

[katydid23]

I have been defending the Father profusely, but I do have to walk it back a bit. This is what I am thinking now---


Adoptee goes searching for birth family. Gets the chance to meet her birth father. I am going to guess that he is kind of a transient type, possibly a heavy drinker who hangs out in parks, may be homeless. Just saying as a possibility because otherwise, who meets with their long lost adopted child and takes them drinking in a dangerous park at night?

I think she was happy to spend time with her father but did not realize how dangerous the situation really was. He was too drunk to protect her, apparently.

 

[EllieBee]

Well, some things are clearing up a little......

 

[Sonya610]

Adoptee goes searching for birth family. Gets the chance to meet her birth father.

I got a slightly different impression from the NYP article. I don't think she was adopted at birth, she says "reconnected" which IMO implies she lost contact with him (maybe foster care or she was raised by relatives etc...).

The victim told cops that she and her 39-year-old dad — who she only recently reconnected with after being adopted — were drinking near the handball courts “to be away from the police,” sources said.

Also another bit of the article if true says the girl was interviewed at "her house" which means she must have lived in the area.

Police said the girl told detectives in a “detailed interview” at her house that one of her attackers had a bright red “satin-type’’ jacket on.

http://nypost.com/2016/01/11/two-teens-busted-in-alleged-gang-rape-say-it-was-consensual/

 

[jjenny]

I got a slightly different impression from the NYP article. I don't think she was adopted at birth, she says "reconnected" which IMO implies she lost contact with him (maybe foster care or she was raised by relatives etc...).



Also another bit of the article if true says the girl was interviewed at "her house" which means she must have lived in the area.



http://nypost.com/2016/01/11/two-teens-busted-in-alleged-gang-rape-say-it-was-consensual/

The sentence you quoted says reconnected after being adopted. So she was adopted. Her house could be whatever place she is living at after moving to the area.

 

[jjenny]

Official charges are filed against 3 suspects. Charges against fourth are pending. This article also clarifies that the woman was adopted at age 2 and was living in another state.

"Four days after the sexual assault of an 18-year-old woman at a Brooklyn playground, prosecutors late Monday charged three teenagers with first-degree rape, officials said."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/nyregion/brooklyn-rape-case.html

 

[jjenny]

Now all four charged as adults according to cnn.

 

[Sonya610]

Official charges are filed against 3 suspects. Charges against fourth are pending. This article also clarifies that the woman was adopted at age 2 and was living in another state.

"Four days after the sexual assault of an 18-year-old woman at a Brooklyn playground, prosecutors late Monday charged three teenagers with first-degree rape, officials said."
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/12/nyregion/brooklyn-rape-case.html

That article says a WHOLE LOT more than that!

On Monday, Representative Hakeem Jeffries, whose district covers the playground, said he was troubled by “several unanswered questions as it relates to the behavior of the father.”

“Something does not seem to add up,” he said.

The woman did not report seeing a gun and so far, the suspects have denied they had one.

The father said the teenagers entered the playground brandishing a gun, and that he ran off, the officials said. Two minutes later, he returned and threw a bottle at the teenagers, to try to drive them off, but they chased him again

At Zaida Deli and Grocery, the father said only, “Gimme the phone,” Mr. Santos recalled, adding that he did not explain why.

The father stopped at Gaston Deli, two blocks from the playground, and asked to use the phone, again without explaining why or even saying that he wanted to call the police