VERDICT WATCH NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #3

[Cool Cats]

Really? An 81 year old man remembers everyone who met anyone in his pub? That is unbelievable.

Must be something specific or they wouldn't have him flown in.

 

[MaryFairy]

Must be something specific or they wouldn't have him flown in.

Or they are that desperate.

 

[otto]

Must be something specific or they wouldn't have him flown in.

I read in DM something about he could testify as to where one of the witnesses first met Maxwell. I suppose the goal was to discredit the facts of that witness' testimony.

 

[minusfour]

Here's hoping for a Christmas Conviction! I am so disgusted and disappointed about adults acting like this towards vulnerable minors. Evil.

 

[otto]

Here's hoping for a Christmas Conviction! I am so disgusted and disappointed about adults acting like this towards vulnerable minors. Evil.

I think it's important to round up all the culprits that lured girls to work for Epstein. One of the witnesses testified that she was 14 years old when Giuffre befriended her through their boyfriends. Her older boyfriend then delivered her to Epstein for 3-4 years for $300 per massage. She and her boyfriend used the money for drugs? She sometimes contacted Epstein directly for a meeting?

They should all be arrested for their participation in the trafficking of a 14 year old who was described by the man who repeatedly delivered her to Epstein as having the intellect of a child.

Convicting Maxwell, Epstein's best friend, will not prevent girls being lured by women like Giuffre and abused by men like her older boyfriend. Maxwell was at the door and always paid her $300 for the massage.

The 14 year old's older boyfriend was 17 years old when he first delivered her (with diminished intellectual capacity) to a pedophile. This went on for 4 years until she was pregnant. His friend, his age, was dating Giuffre when Giuffre introduced this child, with diminished ability, to Epstein. The first time she introduced the 14 year old child to Epstein, Giuffre had sex with Epstein and shocked the 14 year old.

 

[otto]

I'm of the opinion that the only way this prosecution works is when everyone else who was involved is given a pass. At the same time, that's not justice.

Is the 14 year old looking at her boyfriend, her boyfriend's friends' girlfriend, or the woman who paid her at the door, as the person who interfered with her life? Who was in the room when she was first exposed to a female masseuse voluntarily having sex with Epstein? Who first introduced her to Epstein? It wasn't Maxwell.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

I'm sorry if this is off topic, but one thing I would like to know before I die (which I don't think is imminent but one never knows):

What is the correct pronunciation of Ghislaine?

 

[Tortoise]

I'm sorry if this is off topic, but one thing I would like to know before I die (which I don't think is imminent but one never knows):

What is the correct pronunciation of Ghislaine?

I used to work with a Ghislaine and she pronounced it Gilane (as you would pronounce the gi in gift, and silent S). That is also how Scott Reisch pronounces it on his youtube updates.

 

[grammieto5]

If Maxwell is found guilty, could she make some type of deal in exchange for naming names, or is it too late for that? If it's too late to make any deals, maybe just for spite she'll take others down with her.

 

[rosesfromangels]

I'm sorry if this is off topic, but one thing I would like to know before I die (which I don't think is imminent but one never knows):

What is the correct pronunciation of Ghislaine?

how to pronounce ghislaine in french

 

[Legally Bland]

I'm of the opinion that the only way this prosecution works is when everyone else who was involved is given a pass. At the same time, that's not justice.

Is the 14 year old looking at her boyfriend, her boyfriend's friends' girlfriend, or the woman who paid her at the door, as the person who interfered with her life? Who was in the room when she was first exposed to a female masseuse voluntarily having sex with Epstein? Who first introduced her to Epstein? It wasn't Maxwell.

At that time VRG was a victim of sex trafficking, GM wasn't, and while I don't know her exact motivation, GM was complicit. She was present before C's first encounter with JE -

“Did Virginia tell you what you had to do to make that money?” prosecutor Maurene Comey asked.

“Not right away,” Carolyn said. Giuffre, she said, told her they were going to her friend’s house on Palm Beach Island to “give him a massage”. They arrived and entered through the kitchen, she said, adding: “We were greeted by Ms Maxwell.” Giuffre told Maxwell “that I was her friend”, she said.

“What did Maxwell say?” Comey asked.

“You can bring her upstairs and show her what to do.”
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- and arranged C's further abuse -

Carolyn said she returned to Epstein’s house, but not with Giuffre. Maxwell took her phone number, she said, and would call to schedule massages.
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- and just in case you can't see the pattern of abuse, C also took friends to JE. -

Carolyn broke into tears when she said the money Epstein gave her was for “buying drugs”. When she was about 15 or 16, she said, she brought some friends to Epstein’s house.
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What you are asking for is basically the criminalisation of victims. IMO.

Quotes from here:

Third accuser alleges Ghislaine Maxwell preyed on her when she was a minor

 

[minusfour]

Sorry, i commented on Otto's post- the last two lines-but somehow it seems to be included in the quote, and I don't seem to be able to fix it. Sorry Otto!

My post is meant to be in reply- I'm really uncomfortable with Giuffre being classified as a culprit. I understand what you mean, but she was a victim first, and so young. I don't know her story-before this-but I bet she was really vulnerable, and I think her complicity is another part of her victimhood.

 

[sds71]

A source found the photo while tidying their possessions and recalled Maxwell being annoyed with the girls for spending too long with certain guests before moving them along.

They said they discussed at the time whether the girls might have been escorts



Ghislaine Maxwell 'took girls to target men at party after premiere attended by Prince Charles' | Daily Mail Online

 

[sds71]

The parties respectfully submit this letter regarding the logistics for public access for
closing arguments. The parties propose that they will release a public version of their slides (to the extent they do not contain sealed materials) following the conclusion of the trial day on the same basis that they have been releasing public exhibits during trial. This proposal appropriately balances the public interest in access to closing arguments with the Court and the parties’ interests in avoiding delay and effective advocacy on behalf of their clients, as well as the interests of victims and third parties protected by the Court’s sealing orders.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.539612/gov.uscourts.nysd.539612.558.0.pdf

Letter Motion – #559 in United States v. Maxwell (S.D.N.Y., 1:20-cr-00330) – CourtListener.com

 

[BUF]

kate briquelet
@kbriquelet
Big day for Ghislaine Maxwell. Closing arguments & the coldest day so far. The line to get into court was already pretty long at 7 a.m. To be continued...

Meanwhile, the government released some new exhibits including a photo of the sex toys found in Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion.

 

[Ontario Mom]

ate briquelet
@kbriquelet

Big day for Ghislaine Maxwell. Closing arguments & the coldest day so far. The line to get into court was already pretty long at 7 a.m. To be continued...

Meanwhile, the government released some new exhibits including a photo of the sex toys found in Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion.

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I could have easily gone the rest of my days never seeing that pic.

As for GM, here's to hoping she rots in a cell for the rest of her days. She's earned it.

 

[BUF]

Closing arguments set to begin in Ghislaine Maxwell sex-trafficking trial

Nathan warned both sides in court that she wanted all outstanding issues ironed out prior to summations, telling them: “I don’t want objections during closings.”
……
On Friday, Nathan told Maxwell’s lawyers: “There will be no argument on the government’s motivations.”

 

[citygirl]

Ghislaine Maxwell trial: Live updates as arguments expected

 

[citygirl]

osings today
By Post Staff
Good morning.

Ghislaine Maxwell’s trial is in its final chapter and closing arguments are expected today. On Saturday, the government said its summations could last three hours and the defense could go just as long.

Maxwell declined to take the stand on Friday after her legal team called just a handful of witnesses.

Stay here for the latest out of 40 Foley from Post reporters Ben Feuerherd and Tamar Lapin.

 

[BUF]

And closings start….Adam Klasfeld’s Twitter feed…

https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1472932492957331460

AUSA Moe's opening lines:

"Ghislaine Maxwell was dangerous. She was a grown women who preyed on vulnerable kids" [...]

"She targeted a girl whose father had just died. She targeted a girl whose mother was an alcoholic."