GUILTY NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #4

[Chelly]

@KlasfeldReports

New Ghislaine Maxwell jury note: Judge Nathan says that jurors made a number of requests, including for different color "Post-Its," highlighters of different colors, whitepaper board, and "Matt's" transcript. They also want a definition of "enticement."

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https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21165303/finaljurychargeicp.pdf[/QUOTE]
Is this an indication the jury is acutely in disagreement?

 

[shotgun09]

Molly Crane-Newman
@molcranenewman
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Replying to
@molcranenewman
We are in for another full day (or more) of deliberations based on the note just sent out. The jury wants: --Different color Post-its (h/t to our in-house clairvoyant
@vicbekiempis
) --highlighters --a whiteboard --Jane's ex Matt's testimony --the definition of "enticement"



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Me thinks the jury is missing their internet, and Wikipedia...

 

[grammieto5]

There’s a note not a verdict
It’s a question about enticement
And the jurors want post its


@KlasfeldReports

New Ghislaine Maxwell jury note: Judge Nathan says that jurors made a number of requests, including for different color "Post-Its," highlighters of different colors, whitepaper board, and "Matt's" transcript. They also want a definition of "enticement."

page 21

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21165303/finaljurychargeicp.pdf

This is good news, yeah? Sounds like maybe there are a few educators on the jury-different colored post its, and different colored markers. Looks like they're doing a good job taking their time, going over everything.

 

[grammieto5]

There’s a note not a verdict
It’s a question about enticement
And the jurors want post its


@KlasfeldReports

New Ghislaine Maxwell jury note: Judge Nathan says that jurors made a number of requests, including for different color "Post-Its," highlighters of different colors, whitepaper board, and "Matt's" transcript. They also want a definition of "enticement."

page 21

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21165303/finaljurychargeicp.pdf

This is good news, yeah? Sounds like maybe there are a few educators on the jury-different colored post its, and different colored markers. Looks like they're doing a good job taking their time, going over everything.

 

[sds71]

jury has made another request
They would like the testimony of Palm Beach Police Officer Gregory Parkinson.

Evidence at Maxwell trial: massage table, unfolded in court
Evidence at Maxwell trial: massage table, unfolded in court
https://twitter.com/Lauren_delvalle/status/1475502273090490368?s=20

 

[Chelly]

Adam Klasfeld Retweeted

[URL='https://twitter.com/MartaDhanis']Marta Dhanis
[URL='https://twitter.com/MartaDhanis']@MartaDhanis[/URL][/URL]
29m

Maxwell walked inside courtroom for first time this morning at 10:27am wearing a camel turtleneck and black pants. She seemed happy to see her defense team and went to hug each of them. Menninger, Everdell, Sternheim, and lastly Pagliuca who loudly said: “Happy birthday”.

 

[Chelly]

Adam Klasfeld
@KlasfeldReports
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14m

Ghislaine Maxwell's jurors now want the testimony of Gregory Parkinson, a retired police officer who told the jury about the Oct. 20, 2005, search of Jeffrey Epstein's house.
Adam Klasfeld
@KlasfeldReports
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Parkinson was also called to Epstein's same Palm Beach home 2003, for a reported burglary. Reminder: That's the year Epstein's ex-house manager Juan Alessi testified that he stole money from his former boss. Jurors requested Alessi's testimony before the holiday break.

 

[Chelly]

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21165303/finaljurychargeicp.pdf


Instruction No. 14: Count Two: Enticement to Engage in Illegal Sexual Activity – The Elements

To prove the Defendant guilty of Count Two, the Government must prove each of the following three elements beyond a reasonable doubt:

First, that the Defendant knowingly persuaded or induced or enticed or coerced an individual to travel in interstate commerce, as alleged in the Indictment;

Second, that the individual traveled in interstate commerce; and

Third, that the Defendant acted with the intent that the individual would engage in sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense under New York law, as alleged in the Indictment.

Count Two relates solely to Jane during the time period 1994 to 1997.

 

[Chelly]

Adam Klasfeld
@KlasfeldReports
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19m

Judge Nathan also said: "I will then say further 'entice' means to 'attract,' 'induce' or 'lure' using hope or desire."

 

[escape2sc]

IMO I don't think the jury is overthinking, I think they requested the post it notes, etc. to be able to better organize/refresh their thoughts after the long Christmas break.

 

[Kristin Esq.]

IMO I don't think the jury is overthinking, I think they requested the post it notes, etc. to be able to better organize/refresh their thoughts after the long Christmas break.

I agree.

 

[Chelly]

Hope that jury is not waiting three hours for post-its, colored, markers and Matt's transcript.

 

[BUF]

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21165303/finaljurychargeicp.pdf


Instruction No. 14: Count Two: Enticement to Engage in Illegal Sexual Activity – The Elements

To prove the Defendant guilty of Count Two, the Government must prove each of the following three elements beyond a reasonable doubt:

First, that the Defendant knowingly persuaded or induced or enticed or coerced an individual to travel in interstate commerce, as alleged in the Indictment;

Second, that the individual traveled in interstate commerce; and

Third, that the Defendant acted with the intent that the individual would engage in sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense under New York law, as alleged in the Indictment.

Count Two relates solely to Jane during the time period 1994 to 1997.

The enticing charge is punishable by up to 5 years in prison, and the transporting charge is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

The charges against Ghislaine Maxwell in her federal sex trafficking trial, explained - CNN

 

[BUF]

Just curious what everyone’s take on the purpose of that essay written by GMAX?

To claim her place in this relationship?

Prosecutors say essay by 'GMax' shows Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein were 'close partners'

 

[Kemug]

I am so nervous, how will I cope if she is acquitted?

 

[rosesfromangels]

The enticing charge is punishable by up to 5 years in prison, and the transporting charge is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

The charges against Ghislaine Maxwell in her federal sex trafficking trial, explained - CNN

Here's my guess. She'll get somewhere between 2-5 years and get credit for time served. She could be out within a year and on her merry way. She'll get fined as well. She'll appeal, and of course she has civil suits ahead of her as well.

amateur opinion and speculation

 

[sds71]

Just curious what everyone’s take on the purpose of that essay written by GMAX?

To claim her place in this relationship?

Prosecutors say essay by 'GMax' shows Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein were 'close partners'

It reads like an adoption reference letter to me.
And 2002 was the year they sent VG to Thailand to pick up a young girl

Moo

 

[kkdj]

Here's my guess. She'll get somewhere between 2-5 years and get credit for time served. She could be out within a year and on her merry way. She'll get fined as well. She'll appeal, and of course she has civil suits ahead of her as well.

amateur opinion and speculation

I wonder if she'll just get probation.

 

[BUF]

Here's my guess. She'll get somewhere between 2-5 years and get credit for time served. She could be out within a year and on her merry way. She'll get fined as well. She'll appeal, and of course she has civil suits ahead of her as well.

amateur opinion and speculation

Well, here are other possible charges and punishments…

Sex trafficking a minor
This charge solely relates to Carolyn between 2001 and 2004.
a charge punishable by up to 40 years in prison.

Enticing a minor to travel and transporting a minor
Both of these charges relate solely to "Jane" between 1994 and 1997.
The enticing charge is punishable by up to 5 years in prison, and the transporting charge is punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

Three counts of conspiracy
charges stretch from 1994 to 2004 and relate to allegations by all four accusers: Jane, Carolyn, Kate and Annie Farmer.
Each of the conspiracy counts is punishable by up to 5 years in prison.

The charges against Ghislaine Maxwell in her federal sex trafficking trial, explained - CNN

 

[rosesfromangels]

I wonder if she'll just get probation.

I think she'll do (more) time, but it will be token.

Amateur opinion and speculation