GUILTY NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #4

[RickshawFan]

It is a Motion for Judgment of Acquittal. Basically a motion asking the court to throw out the case because there was insufficient evidence produced by the prosecution to sustain conviction.

What does she think a jury is for? She thinks they're too stupid to make an informed decision based on whatever is presented during the trial? Didn't her attorneys participate in CHOOSING the jurors?

 

[mickey2942]

What does she think a jury is for? She thinks they're too stupid to make an informed decision based on whatever is presented during the trial? Didn't her attorneys participate in CHOOSING the jurors?

Exactly. And GM, had an opportunity to tell the jurors, personally, her side of the story, from her perspective. GM chose not to use that opportunity. She could have confronted her accusers, and completely shut down their stories...oh, except, they were all telling the truth!

 

[sds71]

A juror in the Ghislaine Maxwell sex trafficking trial has told The Independent that he voted to find Maxwell guilty of the majority of the charges against her because he believed the stories told by the victims and because he believed the pattern of abuse they all described

“This verdict is for all the victims,” David told The Independent. “For those who testified, for those who came forward and for those who haven’t come forward. I’m glad that Maxwell has been held accountable.”


“They were all believable. Nothing they said felt to me like a lie,” he said.

David knows that sometimes you can misremember small details of traumatic memories without ever doubting the core of the memory. He knows that because he is himself a survivor of sexual abuse…

We are not here to judge these victims,” David told The Independent. “We are here to judge whether we believe their stories, but we are not here to judge the decisions they made or didn’t make.”

The jury wasn't buying the defence's star expert witness, "false memory" expert, Elizabeth Loftus.“None of that relates to traumatic memory. Loftus said herself that she had never conducted a study on whether these tactics would work with memories of sexual abuse"

We simply didn’t see enough direct evidence to convict on count two,” he said. “It wasn’t about not believing Jane.”

Count two was a substantive charge that required proof that Maxwell “enticed” Jane to travel across state lines. David said there just wasn’t any direct evidence for any specific trip that Maxwell took any action to entice Jane to get on those flights.

“I personally was willing to find her guilty on count two,” he said. “But we all decided in the end that there wasn’t enough evidence.”

Maxwell juror says the jury believed accusers’ stories of a pattern of abuse

 

[mickey2942]

Hmm, is having a victim of sexual abuse on a jury for sex trafficking an appellate issue? Did the juror disclose this during selection? If I had been a defense attorney, that question would have been a huge flag for dismiss!

 

[grammieto5]

OOOh it sure does make me a little bit nervous when I read a juror from whichever trial is speaking. Also I wonder how he was allowed to be on a jury about abuse when he was a victim of abuse. I hope he was honest if he was questioned about this.

 

[Herat]

It is a Motion for Judgment of Acquittal. Basically a motion asking the court to throw out the case because there was insufficient evidence produced by the prosecution to sustain conviction.

Isn't this almost a requirement for a high-paid defense to file when a client has been convicted?

It's like some absurd Hail Mary pass that never works, but has to be filed, just in case.

 

[StasiaUK]

Hmm, is having a victim of sexual abuse on a jury for sex trafficking an appellate issue? Did the juror disclose this during selection? If I had been a defense attorney, that question would have been a huge flag for dismiss!

I was just about to ask this very same thing, my jaw dropped open when I read that…

 

[sds71]

The jurors were asked about past sexual abuse.



Commented [A25]: GOVERNMENT OBJECTION: The Government objects to the next series of questions proposed by the defendant that are in green color font. The Government objects on the grounds that these questions are inappropriate, argumentative, confusing, and excessively detailed. The defendant’s proposed questions are not streamlined in accordance with the Court’s Order. The Government submits that its proposed questions ask the jurors what is necessary on the subject but is not as unduly burdensome as the defendant’s proposal.

Commented [A26R25]: DEFENDANT RESPONSE: Juror's personal experiences (directly or indirectly through family members and close friends) with sexual misconduct has significant potential to bias their opinions towards Ms. Maxwell based on the allegations and evidence in this case. The privacy of a questionnaire affords an opportunity to share these biases confidentially and candidly and best allow the parties to identify who cannot be a fair juror in this case or allows the Court to decide whether individual questioning of that juror is appropriate, based on the sensitive nature of the content of the questions.


https://storage.courtlistener.com/r...d.539612/gov.uscourts.nysd.539612.367.0_1.pdf

 

[Kiranerys]

Wow! The cynic in me wonders wether the defence left him in just in case.....
Probably not though.

 

[StasiaUK]

Wow! The cynic in me wonders wether the defence left him in just in case.....
Probably not though.

I wonder…. Alarm bells are certainly ringing here. MOO

 

[Gardenista]

The jurors were asked about past sexual abuse.

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Commented [A25]: GOVERNMENT OBJECTION: The Government objects to the next series of questions proposed by the defendant that are in green color font. The Government objects on the grounds that these questions are inappropriate, argumentative, confusing, and excessively detailed. The defendant’s proposed questions are not streamlined in accordance with the Court’s Order. The Government submits that its proposed questions ask the jurors what is necessary on the subject but is not as unduly burdensome as the defendant’s proposal.

Commented [A26R25]: DEFENDANT RESPONSE: Juror's personal experiences (directly or indirectly through family members and close friends) with sexual misconduct has significant potential to bias their opinions towards Ms. Maxwell based on the allegations and evidence in this case. The privacy of a questionnaire affords an opportunity to share these biases confidentially and candidly and best allow the parties to identify who cannot be a fair juror in this case or allows the Court to decide whether individual questioning of that juror is appropriate, based on the sensitive nature of the content of the questions.


https://storage.courtlistener.com/r...d.539612/gov.uscourts.nysd.539612.367.0_1.pdf

Wonder if he lied or they were out of strikes. Not sure of the jury selection rules, but it seems like this would be a dismissal for cause.

 

[StasiaUK]

Wonder if he lied or they were out of strikes. Not sure of the jury selection rules, but it seems like this would be a dismissal for cause.

I think GM’s defence team are going to be all over this tidbit of info this juror has inadvertently spilled. MOO

 

[StasiaUK]

Ghislaine Maxwell 'could file for mistrial' after juror reveals he suffered childhood sexual abuse

The link is behind a paywall but it gives the preview of what we all expect is about to come any day now…MOO

 

[BUF]

Ghislaine Maxwell 'could file for mistrial' after juror reveals he suffered childhood sexual abuse

The link is behind a paywall but it gives the preview of what we all expect is about to come any day now…MOO

Wish I could read the whole article. Headlines can sometimes be misleading.

 

[StasiaUK]

Wish I could read the whole article. Headlines can sometimes be misleading.

Funnily enough I just had the same thought… I’ll do some more searching and see if I can find an accessible article.

Also, does anyone happen to know where the list of MSM we are allowed to quote is? I’ve just been looking for it to no avail

 

[Gardenista]

Wish I could read the whole article. Headlines can sometimes be misleading.

Ghislaine Maxwell 'could file for mistrial' after juror reveals he suffered childhood sexual abuse

 

[StasiaUK]

Ghislaine Maxwell 'could file for mistrial' after juror reveals he suffered childhood sexual abuse

Legend! Thank you!

 

[BUF]

Ghislaine Maxwell 'could file for mistrial' after juror reveals he suffered childhood sexual abuse

Thank you @Gardenista ! Magic!


The US legal system allows both the prosecution and defence teams to veto candidates. In selecting 12 primary jurors, Maxwell’s team had 10 challenges and the prosecution six.

Question 48 of 51 on the questionnaire jurors were given was: "Have you or a friend or family member ever been the victim of sexual harassment, sexual abuse, or sexual assault?," followed by: "If yes, do you believe that this would affect your ability to serve fairly and impartially as a juror in this case?"

Ghislaine Maxwell 'could file for mistrial' after juror reveals he suffered childhood sexual abuse

 

[StasiaUK]

Ghislaine Maxwell 'could file for mistrial' after juror reveals he suffered childhood sexual abuse

Well well well… After reading that, if what he’s quoted as saying is true, it sounds as if he was biased and had decided GM was guilty before he even went in do you agree? I’m hoping I’m wrong, but this could be a huge spanner in the works MOO

 

[grammieto5]

But if this juror was asked about his abuse and he was honest in his answer, could this still cause problems. OH why can't jurors just not give interviews.