GUILTY NY - Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein confidante, arrested on Sex Abuse charges, Jul 2020 #4

[Dotta]

Everyone has prejudices. Just sayin'. Not having experienced a sexual assault is a bias, too.

Hmmm
I always thought that a person cannot be a juror in a case treating a crime he/she was a victim to.

But then, in my country a Judge decides about guilty verdict.
2 jurors only give their opinions to the Judge.

 

[grammieto5]

Feeling the need to clarify this.
I don't think he is stupid.
Thought his analysis of the evidence and conclusion was solid and believable.
Leaning more to his lack of savvy but fully buying his sincerity.
Does that make sense?
Plain and simply, I wish he had never spoken.
In this day and age, especially, one needs to keep quiet and lay low.
Too many forces ready to take you down.
Thus, he now needs an attorney, which he's opted to pay for.
IMO, he ain't no high finance guy.
He's an administrative assistant.
Not to diminish his position.
It just is what it is.
MOO.

Could it be he won't be the paying for this lawyer?

 

[sds71]

@Josiensor

https://mobile.twitter.com/Josiensor/status/1479236415628189696
A source with knowledge told
@Telegraph
Ghislaine Maxwell juror Scotty David was not honest on his questionnaire about past sexual abuse: “There are several questions that should have picked up same subject and of course the judge even said she could ‘smoke out the lies’.”

 

[Gardenista]

@MartaDhanis
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Ghislaine Maxwell juror who’s the cause of Maxwell’s bid for new trial lied during the selection process when he said that he was not a victim of sexual abuse in the jury questionnaire, a source familiar with the case tells me.

He needs to be prosecuted. This is unreal

 

[Dotta]

He needs to be prosecuted. This is unreal

Yes.
Unfortunately, stupidity cannot be treated but....can be punished.

Let's hope it is only stupidity, and not something more sinister.

 

[otto]

Ghislaine Maxwell jurors who spoke to media about their experience with sexual abuse could be prosecuted if they lied under oath

Jury expert Jill Huntley Taylor, of Taylor Trial Consulting, told Insider that jurors are put under oath during voir dire, and also sign their questionnaires to attest that all of their answers are true.

She said defense attorneys typically use voir dire to try to weed out "stealth jurors," who often "hide experiences or biases with the intent of getting on the jury." Stealth jurors often go undetected, Huntley Taylor said — unless they speak to the press afterward.

Court records show that the questionnaire asked all prospective Maxwell jurors, "Have you or a friend or family member ever been the victim of sexual harassment, sexual abuse or sexual assault?"

During voir dire, prosecutors and defense attorneys typically interrogate prospective jurors who answer "yes" to such questions. But CNN reported Thursday that transcripts showed Juror #50 was not questioned about his experiences with sexual abuse.

It's not immediately disqualifying for a juror to have previous experience with sexual abuse, Huntley Taylor said. However, she said that is something defense attorneys would have wanted to know "so that they can ask further questions to determine if that prior experience creates a bias against their client."

A second juror later told The New York Times on condition of anonymity that they, too, discussed their experience with sexual abuse during deliberations. This second juror also said that sharing their story seemed to help convince the other jurors to believe Maxwell's victims.

Neither prosecutors nor defense attorneys have formally addressed the second juror's comments.

I find it interesting that the jury relied on two jurors telling personal stories in order to believe the witness' testimony. On the surface, it seems that jurors could have arrived at a different verdict without those personal stories.

 

[JDG]

Maybe he's lying and wasn't a sex abuse victim, in which case he correctly answered the juror questionnaire reflecting no sex abuse history.

He’s definitely lying about something!

Here’s hoping it all comes out in the wash, as they say!

 

[grammieto5]

Feeling the need to clarify this.
I don't think he is stupid.
Thought his analysis of the evidence and conclusion was solid and believable.
Leaning more to his lack of savvy but fully buying his sincerity.
Does that make sense?
Plain and simply, I wish he had never spoken.
In this day and age, especially, one needs to keep quiet and lay low.
Too many forces ready to take you down.
Thus, he now needs an attorney, which he's opted to pay for.
IMO, he ain't no high finance guy.
He's an administrative assistant.
Not to diminish his position.
It just is what it is.
MOO.

Could it be he won't be the paying for this lawyer?

 

[sds71]

Victims of sexual abuse can serve on a jury, but they must disclose this history on a questionnaire if asked, said attorney Arthur Aidala. By omitting the information, the juror deprived the defense of the opportunity to further probe whether the juror could be fair and impartial and in this case possibly jeopardized Maxwell’s right to a fair trial, he said.

The defense said in a court filing Wednesday that the revelations "present incontrovertible grounds for a new trial." Earlier in the day, the government asked for a court inquiry into the matter.

Judge Nathan has set a briefing schedule for both sides to submit motions on the issue. She will ultimately rule on whether to overturn the verdict and grant Maxwell a new trial.


Ghislaine Maxwell juror did not disclose that he was a victim of sexual abuse during selection process

 

[Dotta]

I find it interesting that the jury relied on two jurors telling personal stories in order to believe the witness' testimony. On the surface, it seems that jurors could have arrived at a different verdict without those personal stories.

Not to mention a Judge who rushed the Jury.
Oh well, some things are doomed from the start.

 

[UK Girl]

I find it interesting that the jury relied on two jurors telling personal stories in order to believe the witness' testimony. On the surface, it seems that jurors could have arrived at a different verdict without those personal stories.

He did say they was finding it hard to come to a unanimous decision and then when the judge kept trying to hurry them up and said they would have to work through New Year I think they just went with it.

 

[whitelilac]

Could it be he won't be the paying for this lawyer?

The cynic in me might consider that the funds are already sitting in an acct. in the Caymans, as are Scotty's.
OK, going for a walk before my overactive imagination goes on overdrive.

 

[JDG]

Wonder if GM will be released pending the outcome of the investigation??

Probably not but maybe she ought to be…..just saying.

 

[Gardenista]

He did say they was finding it hard to come to a unanimous decision and then when the judge kept trying to hurry them up and said they would have to work through New Year I think they just went with it.

Rushing the jurors was a dumb move on the part of the judge. Then, after reading her perfunctory interview with him, we hear she said she could "smoke out" a lying juror. She needs to lose her seat on the bench.

 

[JDG]

The cynic in me might consider that the funds are already sitting in an acct. in the Caymans, as are Scotty's.
OK, going for a walk before my overactive imagination goes on overdrive.

Scotty might be trading places with Ghislaine, no need for money where he’s going.

 

[Dotta]

Wonder if GM will be released pending the outcome of the investigation??

Probably not but maybe she ought to be…..just saying.

DM hinted she will get a bail.
I sent a link earlier (about a rouge juror).
Some people always have plan B.

 

[Cool Cats]

I find it interesting that the jury relied on two jurors telling personal stories in order to believe the witness' testimony. On the surface, it seems that jurors could have arrived at a different verdict without those personal stories.

It involved the memory expert testimony. The jury asked for this testimony evidently concerned with what the victims could or couldn't remember.

The jurors who experienced abuse - possibly decades ago - made it clear how memory of such events can be affected.

 

[Spartygirl]

Will rogue juror set Ghislaine Maxwell free? Conviction is in chaos as juror lawyered up | Daily Mail Online

Oh Geez.... I sure hate reading this.

So a mistrial ??

OMG--- I was doing the happy dance last week and now we have to start all over because one douche of a juror couldn't keep his mouth shut.
Go figure.

 

[Dotta]

Oh Geez.... I sure hate reading this.

So a mistrial ??

OMG--- I was doing the happy dance last week and now we have to start all over because one douche of a juror couldn't keep his mouth shut.
Go figure.

The truth would be known sooner or later, so maybe it is better that it exploded now before sentencing.

 

[Kemug]

Down here in Oz I don't recall any jurors ever giving interviews - maybe it's illegal, or maybe it's my memory.