GUILTY NY - Levon Wameling, 9 months, Utica, 29 May 2013

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  • #221
AstroKitty said:
I think it's vital to remember that the parents both failed this child. She was in court appointed rehab *IE drug court mandated therapy in order to retain her rights as a guardian & shave off time from the sentence*. I sincerely doubt that she was the only drug user in this couple. & court mandated rehab is not ordered for pot.

I agree that something happened to this child, at night and while he wore a diaper. Pure speculation but the baby reminds me a lot of children born to parents who abused opiates during pregnancy (or were on methadone / suboxone as a replacement therapy). I don't understand where people get that a drug lord kidnapped a child for a drug debt. That's a fantasy. We aren't in a 3rd world nation where children are bartering tools and there's bandits running loose. Frankly, a drug dealer may take a child (female usually) and use for sexual purposes but even that is a rarity. A dead child is rather bad for business. Most dealers DO have a common honor and that's not to hurt children or animals. It doesn't go over well in prison if you have. The father is obviously guilty as sin. The only way I could see this not ending up with a homicide, is if a neighbor noticed the child being neglected and took him to care for him. But even then, you'd suspect that same person would come forward by now. The young boy has very unique features, is sick and needs medical attention - no one can fly under the radar with a sickly child.

I am hoping for the best and if the best doesn't happen - I hope who ever is guilty serves time, that justice is swift and that those that are responsible for letting this lil' guy suffer - are not out there reproducing to make up for the one they lost.
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I am not in agreement with the bolded part. We do not know whether this will be the rehab stint that will change the mother's life for good forever. As a person in recovery, I am not about to condemn someone who is in a rehab facility. The courts did the right thing for her and she is a victim -so far- of her little boy being missing.
 
  • #222
I agree the courts did the right thing. I'm not throwing stones at her, although I know it sounds like it. I'm giving more a picture of the family/home life this child had. She shouldn't be in jail - she should be home with her children, all 3 of them. So she did screw up, she didn't do right by her kid and it's a pity - not for her but for her kids. the true victims of her addiction.
 
  • #223
Observer-Dispatch ‏@uticaOD 7m
Police: No indication father had searched for missing Utica boy http://zo.pe/bynd

Authorities have not yet talked to anyone who says Jevon Wameling had made any efforts to look for his 9-month-old son in the two weeks after the boy went missing, police said Friday.

And whenever Wameling talked with baby Levon’s mother, Amy Warney, while she was at a drug rehabilitation facility, police said she never detected any hints that something bad had happened to her child.

“As far as she knew, the child was being cared for by Jevon and was doing fine,” Utica police Sgt. Steve Hauck said.
 
  • #224
Article has video

WKTV ‏@WKTV 2m
Day three of search for baby Levon Wameling; Choppers hover over Utica http://bit.ly/13LDkmY #wktv
 
  • #225
AstroKitty said:
I think it's vital to remember that the parents both failed this child. She was in court appointed rehab *IE drug court mandated therapy in order to retain her rights as a guardian & shave off time from the sentence*. I sincerely doubt that she was the only drug user in this couple. & court mandated rehab is not ordered for pot.
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Respectfully snipped and BBM. That is not true. I've seen people in court ordered rehab for pot while their children are in foster care. Court orders rehab for any mind altering substance parents use around their children whether it be pot, pills, alcohol, or any other narcotic.....
 
  • #226
My apologies for being wrong.

I know it's probably been said or reported on - but did they find anything in the house? Where is the father right now? & Is there a reward or anything being posted?

I can't help but think we'll know what happened before the weekend ends. I find myself going back to Levon's photos - what a cute bugger! He has such a beautiful face and features.
 
  • #227
I'm uncomfortable with the tone taken by some against the mother. She is in NO WAY a suspect and should be treated as a victim. Yes, she was in court ordered rehab. Considering the rate of addiction and alcoholism in this country, there but for the grace of god go a LOT of parents. People with addiction issues can and are good and loving parents. The fact that she was OFFERED rehab instead of incarceration shows that in all likelihood she has a pretty good past.

Her heart is aching for her child, lost while she was trying to become a healthier human being.
 
  • #228
CNY Central ‏@CNYcentral 26m
Raw video: Neighbors of 9-month-old Levon Wameling in Utica have set up a small memorial on his porch http://ow.ly/m2Vn2
 
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Yes, the mother had to go to this court-ordered rehab. But why leave the baby with Jevon? The mother now seems to think Jevon is capable of negligence and hiding the body. Why leave a little baby with someone incapable of caring for the baby? This is the part I don't understand. Who was taking care of the other children?

It sounds like some of her family tried to take over care of Levon, but weren't able to. What's the story on that?
 
  • #231
Curious Me said:
Yes, the mother had to go to this court-ordered rehab. But why leave the baby with Jevon? The mother now seems to think Jevon is capable of negligence and hiding the body. Why leave a little baby with someone incapable of caring for the baby? This is the part I don't understand. Who was taking care of the other children?

It sounds like some of her family tried to take over care of Levon, but weren't able to. What's the story on that?
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BBM: I heard that also, but we don't know much. :(
 
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  • #233
Curious Me said:
Yes, the mother had to go to this court-ordered rehab. But why leave the baby with Jevon? The mother now seems to think Jevon is capable of negligence and hiding the body. Why leave a little baby with someone incapable of caring for the baby? This is the part I don't understand. Who was taking care of the other children?

It sounds like some of her family tried to take over care of Levon, but weren't able to. What's the story on that?
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seattlechiquita said:
BBM: I heard that also, but we don't know much. :(
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I'd like to know more too...... I'd like to know how Jevon gained custody of Levon? I don't mean court ordered custody, I mean possession of Levon after mom moved out. Where was Levon between the time she moved out and went into treatment?

I ask because they were not married and never married fathers do not have the same inherent rights as married fathers, unless they seek them through the courts. Unless the courts ordered someone hand Levon over to Jevon, there was never a need to do so. Mom could have chosen whomever she wanted to care for Levon. Jevon would have had to challenge it in court if he objected and considering he's been scaling walls, I don't think he would have been up to challenging custody in court.

I'm afraid what happened is someone inadvertently thought they could not legally keep Levon from Jevon which was not accurate...... and that somewhere Mom was given a choice of Levon and Jevon, thus she had to move out to not lose custody.......

How that all fits together, I am not sure, but based on what I have seen with CPS and foster care in other situations, I am describing above with what might have happened in this case.

Was it ever said if Levon was in a car seat, stroller or how he was 'left on the porch'?

Has LE taken his stroller, car seat and carriers of anykind into custody for forensice evaluation?

I think we have another D'Andre Lane type dad on our hands. I'm just glad to see, thus far, Amy is not as blind as Banika Jones. I couldn't handle another Banika Jones mother in this type of case.

Jevon needs to come forward and tell LE ALL he knows, everything. I don't think he will though. I think he will behave the same way D'Andre did.
 
  • #234
The Cheese said:
I've seen it many times. They don't want evidence disturbed. They usually put out the warning for about a week or two, and you see a lot of reports of police searches during that time, then you notice they've stopped saying it, and the police searches have cut back. It's like they want first shot at any evidence.
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Which is a good thing. There have been many cases where the scene of a crime was contaminated by civilians and no conviction has been made.
 
  • #235
These two statements are at odds with each other.

Police said Wameling came forward only after Levon's mother asked where her child was.
'Here’s the thing, we have a problem with what he says,' Utica Chief Mark Williams said at a news conference Thursday. 'Here’s a guy that waited two weeks to come forward. He doesn’t bring it forward to the police, but brings it forward to his parents. Instead he goes to an attorney's office. I think actions speak louder than words.'
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Though police say Levon's father is still not being treated as a suspect, Jevon Wameling, 27, waited nearly two weeks to report his son missing, according to the The Utica Observer-Dispatch.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-didnt-report-police.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

If you click on the link the first photo shows baby Levon smiling.
 
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  • #237
FWIW, that doesn't look like a smile to me. I think it looks more like someone holding a bottle to get the child to open is mouth, than a smile. :(

I think when LE publicly names someone a suspect a whole different set of rules/laws apply which restricts what LE can do, thus they may be considering him a suspect behind the scenes but are not ready to make that declaration publicly - yet.
 
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There are pictures of a happy baby on the facebook page. Personally, he doesn't look sad to me in a lot of those pictures. He looks like he's confused by either the flash or the camera. The pictures that he looks happy in are ones that aren't straight on. He just looks perplexed to me. JMO. He's clean in the pictures, he's got lots of clothing options. His clothes are clean, he doesn't even have a drool mark on him.

As for the hair color issue, it can be kind of hard to label a baby's hair color when they're not sporting more than peach fuzz.
 
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