NY-LI 10 bodies found on Beach-Poss. SrlKlr-12/10-4 id'd; more found 3/11 #10

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  • #501
snippet from the LISK site that I don't participate on, but do read on occasion:
I'm not sure what I think just yet, but wanted to share, and see if this registered with the real sleuthers.

"My theory is whomever contacted these girls previous to their murders has them convinced that he is going to be the answer to their prayers. A way out of this lifestyle of drugs and selling themselves to the next guy for the next fix. He’s offering something past money or sex. He’s reaching them at an emotional level below the barely functioning emotional life that they know and promising something. MUCH more Untangible than money or drugs or sex. He’s offering them a chance at Life and Living and a WAY out…only to snuff it out a few hours or days down the road. Seems to me that this could be why no one else seems to know anything. "


this poster def got me thinking ... maybe there guard was down because they weren't going out on a 'date', hence the plain clothes. Also, I believe when you commit yourself into a rehab center, you have to leave phone contact/behind? Possibly the SK created a ruse of a paid clinical trial/rehab with (employment assistance at the end?) Or that part of the long talks was instructing the girls what to tell their pimp/friends, tell them you are going out on a 1500 overnight date, in order to "escape" the life. Some type of non sex date ruse would help explain the breaking of their security protocol: being picked up alone at odd location, leaving phone, telling no one where they were going... there is no need to figure out how to get an escort to break all of the safety rules if it isn't a date they are embarking on.

just brainstorming... maybe it's just my mind, as everyone knows my opinion, but a halfway house scenario does seem to fit that piece of the puzzle, it would help to explain some of the behavior of the girls before they went missing.

(Shannan would not have been in oak beach as a result of this particular bait; same killer, different method or lack of method/opportunistic attack)
 
  • #502
snippet from the LISK site that I don't participate on, but do read on occasion:
I'm not sure what I think just yet, but wanted to share, and see if this registered with the real sleuthers.

"My theory is whomever contacted these girls previous to their murders has them convinced that he is going to be the answer to their prayers. A way out of this lifestyle of drugs and selling themselves to the next guy for the next fix. He’s offering something past money or sex. He’s reaching them at an emotional level below the barely functioning emotional life that they know and promising something. MUCH more Untangible than money or drugs or sex. He’s offering them a chance at Life and Living and a WAY out…only to snuff it out a few hours or days down the road. Seems to me that this could be why no one else seems to know anything. "


this poster def got me thinking ... maybe there guard was down because they weren't going out on a 'date', hence the plain clothes. Also, I believe when you commit yourself into a rehab center, you have to leave phone contact/behind? Possibly the SK created a ruse of a paid clinical trial/rehab with (employment assistance at the end?) Or that part of the long talks was instructing the girls what to tell their pimp/friends, tell them you are going out on a 1500 overnight date, in order to "escape" the life. Some type of non sex date ruse would help explain the breaking of their security protocol: being picked up alone at odd location, leaving phone, telling no one where they were going...

just brainstorming... maybe it's just my mind, as everyone knows my opinion, but a halfway house scenario does seem to fit that piece of the puzzle, it would help to explain some of the behavior of the girls before they went missing.

(Shannan was not in oak beach as a result of this particular bait, not originally anyway)

Wooooow, that fits my POI to a tee. And he is currently back in NY.
 
  • #503
To those who asked, I named the person who posted the phone number on the Facebook page, and it was edited to his initials. It's a young, handsome fellow. For all I know, it could be a photo of a celebrity. Or maybe it's the SK or just some joker having a good time. I wish there was a way I could give you the name. Especially since you can't find it on the site now. If it doesn't violate some rule, I could PM a link to the Facebook page. If I can't do that, I'm not sure how I can share it with you.
 
  • #504
Oh no. I was sluething around the web and found a guy who I've been keeping tabs on for about a month or so. Former NYPD, fired from the force. Extremely religious. Fits the profile to a tee. He lives out of state but goes back to NY every summer to visit family and his "church people". This guy is full of himself to no end. Holier than tho type. Very strange guy.....
 
  • #505
Another one....Herman Webster Mudgett or H. H. Holmes as some may know. If you haven't seen the indie flick on him, check this out.

Respectfully Snipped

Good Gracious, PickleChris:devil:! I won't sleep for a week but, thanks for sharing. :devil:
 
  • #506
Well, it appears that the person who posted the phone number over and over last night is no longer searchable on Facebook. I can't find the guy at all. I also can't find the woman who had posted a comment on his profile photo. Both profiles seem to be gone from Facebook. I can seem why one of the individuals might be banned from Facebook. I don't know why the other would have been banned unless they shared an IP address. You can still find personal ads under the CB girl's name. One of them is for girl-girl relationships. Whatever. Whether it was something relevant or a prank, someone is really creepy.

Don't be too shocked. Alot of wierdo's come out when cases hit the spotlight. When I was sluething BTK, some real crazy's came out of the wood works. Just uses you comon sense filter and you will be alright. loool. Happy sluething.....:crazy:
 
  • #507
Well, I made a mistake. Facebook wouldn't return the two names when I did searches, but I found the girl again using google. She appears to be a real person and some more checking reveals that she actually lives within 25 miles of Oak Beach. I found a birthday invitation for her online, and it lists another individual, a woman. And that woman also lives in Holbrook. I still can't find the Facebook profile for the man. I recall that someone with that name was involved in real estate in Brentwood. So that might be a real individual, too.
 
  • #508
Well, I made a mistake. Facebook wouldn't return the two names when I did searches, but I found the girl again using google. She appears to be a real person and some more checking reveals that she actually lives within 25 miles of Oak Beach. I found a birthday invitation for her online, and it lists another individual, a woman. And that woman also lives in Holbrook. I still can't find the Facebook profile for the man. I recall that someone with that name was involved in real estate in Brentwood. So that might be a real individual, too.

I'd love to see what you've found. Would you mind PMing me the info?
 
  • #509
This is my first time posting but I've been following this thread and doing a lot (too much) websleuthing. Being from the south shore of Long Island, I'm interested in this case. I used to hang out in the OBI parking lot as a teenager, (it used to be a cool place to hang out in high school), so I'm quite familiar with the area.

Here's my theory for your consideration. My suspect has been mentioned here before but didn't receive much attention from this group, who seem to be, IMO, wrongly focused on the "usual suspects." I've provided some new information (online evidence) related to burlap that "may" present probable cause for a search warrant (see #10 - "Probable Cause" below). Since he has not been named by LE, I will follow the rules of the group and not identify him by name. I will also not post any specific links from my research as they may specifically identify him, but if you can't find something that I reference let me know and I'll try to assist with suggesting how to locate it online.

I'll start with a bit of background on my thought process, but just skip to #7 below if you don't feel like reading my brain dump. Let me know what you think:

1) I assume JB and the "Drifter" are not involved with any of the murders. The reason I assume this is because nothing that they did has the hallmark of a highly intelligent, organized serial killer. Would JB/Drifer really have invited a potential victim to the house, thus revealing their location? No way, never. The real killer would definitely use a throw-away phone and a proxy meet-up location, probably a local seedy hotel parking lot on the mainland with no cameras, to ensure that the women were alone (probably why LE went asking around at local hotels). He probably played it off as looking for a "car date." He would probably pay them the $1000 or so and then say that he had another $1000 at his house if they were willing to "get more comfortable" or spend the night.

2) I assume MP and CPH are also not involved with any of the murders in any way, shape or form. MP was SG's driver and she was a source of recurring revenue for him - no motive whatsoever. CPH was home with his wife. He never had the opportunity to kill SG, no matter how guilty he looks. He was basically framed by the real SK. If CPH were the SK, he would never be so reckless as to contact SG's mom from his home phone and indicate that she was staying at his "halfway house". Our SK is really smart, not really dumb. The real SK wouldn't even leave Internet records, let alone phone records. He would use a laptop and someone else's unsecured wireless network on the mainland to browse listings, or he would anonymize his online activities using a web proxy. In short, this guy is really smart, and really careful - that's why he has not yet been caught. Absolutely none of the "usual suspects" fit this profile. Not JB, CPH, MP or the Drifter.

3) I assume that the disappearance of SG and the 4 recovered victims are most definitely related. The probability is too high that they are unrelated. Thus, I assume that the SK resides in OB. If SG had never gone missing from OB, I would definitely think that the SK was from the mainland and just using the area as a dumping ground. OB would never be a likely area of interest. The SK probably knows this too, and that's why he was comfortable dumping right next door. For example, I wouldn't think that the other unrelated victims found near Tobay are from OB, or even Tobay Beach for that matter (there are houses located in Tobay too), would you?

4) The initial phone call to SG's mom was real - it actually happened - and IMO is the single best key to revealing the identity of the real SK. The caller claimed that he was CPH - but in my opinion he was not. The call was made to avoid a search of the area because the caller knew, for a fact, what LE would potentially find (i.e., 4 bodies of his other victims). The caller, against his better judgment, absolutely had to make this call because he was desperate. He knew that he had screwed up big time and revealed his general location, OB, and that he might ultimately be tied back to the other victims. In my theory, SG had inadvertently stumbled into his path, met all of his "victim" criteria and became a victim herself - a "too good to be true" chance opportunity for the SK. Whereas all of the other murders were highly pre-meditated, this murder was a completely spur of the moment decision to kill SG that he couldn't physically, mentally or emotionally resist, and it was a really bad decision. The SK's call to SG's mother was an act of desperation, a cover-up, to throw off both the family and LE. There's simply no other explanation, and thus the same person responsible for SG's disappearance is also responsible for the 4 other victims, and the SK in fact resides in OB. Again, really smart, and it probably would have worked perfectly if the family wasn't so passionate and determined about finding SG.

5) Lies come in a variety of forms. One type of lie in particular is called a "half-truth." If we look at the call to SG's parents, what might be truth, and what might be a lie? That the caller was CPH was a lie, in my opinion, however the caller obviously knew of CPH and maybe even thought that he would be a good scapegoat in a worst case scenario (i.e., maybe he knew about his lying on a job application, his employment history, etc.). That the caller was in fact a doctor might actually be the truth. Think about it. Who impersonates a doctor? That's pretty gutsy and would require some subject matter expertise. Who even knows enough about "halfway houses" to be able to even come up with the narrative that quickly? A doctor, particularly one that sees a high number of mental health related patients and probably recommends halfway houses to these patients on a regular basis. Even the word "halfway house" itself means somewhere between an institution (hospital/prison) and society.

6) SG called 911 and ran to GC's house. That's a well known fact. She wouldn't leave JB's house until she got paid. She probably threatened JB that she would call the cops and report an attack/rape if he didn't pay up. In my theory, she actually did make the call, from JB's house, and falsely reported an attack. At this point, JB or the drifter ultimately said something like "I'm going to get my gun/knife, you're dead bXXch", etc., or they may have even pulled out a gun or other weapon and convincingly threatened her to the point that she ran from the house. They were convincing enough that she began running/hiding for her life, knocking on GC's door and actually looking for protection. Gus was too old and wasn't going to be of help. So she ran down Anchor Way and, IMO, knocked on the very next door or began hiding in the very next yard that afforded some real protection. Pretty logical.

7) Who lives there? A Dr. with the last name beginning with the letter "U", mentioned on this board before. He's been trying agressively (3 different realtors) but unsuccessfully to sell his house beginning shortly after the time (3/2008) of the earliest murder/disappearance of Maureen-Bainard Barnes (6/2007), and stopped trying to sell the house just prior to the initial discovery of the bodies (11/2010), perhaps due to increased police presence and the desire to avoid suspicion if bodies were found. He has a brother who used to have a "Landscape Design" business in Suffolk County (i.e., lots of burlap that could be left over and at some point acquired by the Dr.), and the brother now works right down the road from a large hospital-run "Halfway House"). The Dr. is a specialist in Emergency Medicine (EM), the exact same specialty as CPH, and he's around death and disease all the time as an attending Emergency Room (ER) doctor. It is well studied that mental illness is common in the medical field, particularly in night-shift type positions such as the ER. It is also studied in scientific literature that medical professionals lie, deceive and tell half-truths as part of their profession in order to avoid having to tell a patient that they're going to die (or that they have a bad prognosis). Whoever made the call to SG's mom is very good at lying, and very good at understanding and manipulating people. This Dr. in particular is a "locum tenens" doctor which means that he fills-in for other Dr.s when they are away or a hospital needs a temporary attending physician for their Emergency Room. It's a very well paid position and leaves plenty of free time between jobs. He's also unmarried and needs to travel all over the place as temporary job positions require, likely staying in hotels paid for by the hiring hospital.

8) This Dr. grew up in NJ near Newark. When he was around 18 years old in the mid-1980s, there were a series of murdered prostitutes in Newark and surrounding areas investigated as a possible serial killer by a special task force set up by the mayor. Bodies were dumped all in the same general area. Coincidence? Maybe. 18 years old is a trying time for developing intimacy and personality issues (i.e., high testosterone, male's peak, etc.), and I would assume that the LISK has killed before, possibly gone into remission and is now back.

9) It's been mentioned somewhere in this group that this Dr. is suspected by the local OB community. That he is currently in Europe. Is he avoiding the collection of his DNA? Any info on current/recent locations or additional color on local suspicions would be helpful.

10) Probable Cause for a Search Warrant?: If you look up his address, you'll find images of the interior of his home from when it was up for sale. If you click through the thumbnails, you'll see a large BURLAP rug in his living room. This is a pretty uncommon item, IMO. He is also clearly into sailing. Historically, burlap was used as a sail for sailing. Sailing motif throughout (i.e., deck chair, paddles, sailboat models, etc.). Google maps shows two boats in his yard, the smaller of which is almost surely a small sailboat. Also he signed up recently on a sailing regatta website with a Caribbean connection. Burlap bags would very likely be used on a sailboat to store things given their ability to dry quickly. Listen, sailing is not too uncommon for the area, but I believe that the following might provide circumstantial evidence for a search warrant: (1) his patio has a direct line-of-sight to SG's last known location, GC's front porch where SG was seen and heard screaming; (2) the publicly available online image of a BURLAP in his house; (3) the fact that he has been trying to sell the house shortly after the inital disappearance of MBB; and (4) that he is currently "missing" according to the local OB community, possibly in Europe. This should be enough to provide LE with probable cause for a search warrant on the house. Further, people in the other house directly behind the Dr.'s heard the screaming, so it is highly unlikely that someone at the Dr.'s house wouldn't have heard SG screaming too. The house behind the Dr.'s house that I'm referring to is the house where the teenager reported hearing SG and seeing her "footsteps" in the sand. At the least, we know that SG was hiding behind GC's boat. Given that GC pointed towards Anchor Way in his interview when he indicated the direction that SG fled, it would be quite reasonable to at the very least obtain a search warrant for the Dr.'s yard to determine if SG in fact hid behind one of the Dr.'s boats, too. Perhaps she perished there from a heart attack and the Dr. never noticed because he's never home. If there are any additional items located on the outside premises (i.e., earring, forensic evidence, footprints, etc.), that would certainly provide additional probable cause for a broader search of the premises, car, etc.

11) Where is SG? My guess is that the same MO was used, with a slight twist. I would check the brush on north side of the Loop Parkway, northeast of the bridge entering Long Beach but before the drawbridge. Anyone from OB that worked in Nassau County west of the Meadowbrook Parkway (which the Dr. did at one point) would have taken this road to avoid the westbound traffic on Merrick Road between Wantagh Parkway and Meadowbrook Parkway. He would be familiar with this particular area and know traffic patterns on this stretch of the parkway, or complete lack thereof at certain times of the day. He wouldn't have dumped a body near Tobay or Robert Moses Parkway b/c its too close to home to where LE "might" look, which they ultimately did as we know. He would also avoid Wantagh Parkway because troopers are down there all the time looking for speeders (or just enjoying the scenery as I sometimes suspect). It would be highly unlikely for a trooper, a Nassau County cop or a Long Beach cop to be in the area that I mentioned because of jurisdictional reasons (I think Long Beach has jurisdiction for that stretch of the road but the Long Beach cops are pretty understaffed anyhow and would have absolutely no reason to be in that area ever - I actually think the Long Beach cops found a body in this exact area about 6-7 years ago). He would be in his comfort zone there, and he would never pass a traffic camera which are all over the mainland. There may however be a camera in the drawbridge operator booth, but I doubt it.

12) How do you prove this case? DNA. The SK has probably never been arrested/printed/swabbed. He probably has left DNA at other crime scenes, and I guarantee that he's killed more than 5. He's got an addiction, a habit that he can't break. Probably something about hating prostitutes and the power to take or save a life (ever hear of "Angel of Mercy"?). I once met someone who grew up in a part of Queens with street prostitutes in his neighborhood and he made a point about absolutely despising them - pretty over the top kind of passionate hatred, and I suspect he was hiding something like he'd been with a few of them before or maybe even picked up an STD. If you've ever been to Newark, you know that there are some parts of town that are, well, a bit shady. Seeing prostitutes as worthless, non-human objects is a hallmark of this SK, and this hatred was not developed overnight.

13) I don't know for sure any of the above - its a theory and if it's not the Dr. than I feel bad for suspecting him - maybe he's a great guy and an awesome doctor. Its just that his house is direct line-of-sight from his balcony to Gus Colleti's front stoop and I suspect his house would be the next place that I would run to if I were in fear that JB or someone from the "party" was really going to shoot, stab or otherwise kill me. I also suspect the Dr. would have heard the commotion at Gus' house and had time to come up with a quick plan. "Come on inside, I'm a doctor and can help you" probably would work pretty well. So would a commercially available stun gun/taser that would logically be used on a "trespasser".

14) LE should pretend to be a locum tenens recruiter with a job opportunity in a nice beach town. Get him to come in for an interview and give him a cup of coffee and collect the DNA and test it. You might get him for the Newark serial killings (if that was indeed him AND they actually have any DNA evidence) but his later-life sophistication and understanding of DNA technology (and how to remove and destroy his own DNA) would be too adept for the LI murders (the Dr. co-published a potato DNA sequence analysis as an undergrad, for instance). There may be other murders around the world that he committed where he left DNA earlier in his "career", so I would check it against all international DNA databases for sure. I would also sweep the area of Loop Parkway that I mentioned with cadaver dogs or hyperspectral imaging. SG was not out of her mind when she left JB's house - she was trying to get paid - and she may have fought her attacker and still have DNA residue on her person. I believe that the SK used burlap on purpose because they knew that keeping the body in burlap would allow the body to remain cool in the hot sun, allowing bacteria and microorganisms to flourish, thereby rapidly and permanently destroying any DNA evidence. Very smart. Not the standard bleach job suggested by TV crime shows, and quite creative since other materials like plastic would easily break down in the elements and would make the body heat up rather than remain cool and moist. The dryer the body, the more DNA would be available is my guess. Burlap is almost a too perfect choice to be by chance - this SK knows exactly what he's doing.

15) CPH looks guilty b/c he made calls to SG, etc. He's not the SK IMO. The real SK would never be that dumb (not that CPH is dumb, just that the real SK would not poke his head up like that). CPH just looks guilty because: (a) he was framed, and (b) he is doing what any one of us would have done in a similar situation - try and help the family of a missing woman. Where did he get SG's sister's phone number? Who knows, but he most likely got it from Diaz, Pak or SG's mom. But he never saw SG that night. She never made it to Labrador Ct., IMO. CPH is not a sociopath. He's invested in the community, he's got a family. We're looking for a real psycho, a mental loner with way above average IQ and plenty of time and money on his hands, not a do-gooder that became a suspect because of his own haphazard fumbling around in the investigation. If the SK had never made that call pretending he was CPH, we would never suspect or be having a conversation about CPH because CPH never would have come up in the investigation to begin with. Its not him. The person we're looking for is a deceiver who can repeatedly deceive street-smart women, their protectors/drivers/pimps, their families and LE. Doctors are expert at deception and do it all the time, especially in life and death situations.

Any thoughts on the theory?
 
  • #510
Well, I made a mistake. Facebook wouldn't return the two names when I did searches, but I found the girl again using google. She appears to be a real person and some more checking reveals that she actually lives within 25 miles of Oak Beach. I found a birthday invitation for her online, and it lists another individual, a woman. And that woman also lives in Holbrook. I still can't find the Facebook profile for the man. I recall that someone with that name was involved in real estate in Brentwood. So that might be a real individual, too.

This is very confusing and I don't think this is moving in a good direction. I check out the LISK site and can't quite figure out what is going on but I do want to caution about what I think I have figured out for those who do not visit the LISK site. There was a person dominating the forum with very crazy, creepy comments which included insults to other posters. This was allowed to go on for a long time. Now it seems the person has been banned. Some thought he was the SK and the comments he made were certainly bizarre enough to seem that way. He would repeat his posts over and over on every thread. Now that he has been banned perhaps he has resorted to setting up fake facebook pages as a way of getting back at the people at LISK that insisted he be banned. So do not assume that any of the people being mentioned are doing the crazy posting. He may have figured out some of the posters and is now trying to impersonate them. I would be very careful with the sleuthing. The real SK must be very frustrated by now. Although he hasn't been caught, he has been exposed enough he is probably no longer able to lure any working girls. He may be resorting to internet forum games for some of the excitement he is missing.
 
  • #511
:welcome4:

insprectrogadget, Welcome to WS! It is always great having new posters' opinions!

You have certainly given us alot to chew on, so to speak.

Your suspect has been discussed briefly on this forum as his 'alleged' move to Europe has been rumored and seems suspicious. However, you are the first sleuth to offer insight into this <unusual person>.

Please remember that WS TOS prohibits us from sleuthing persons who haven't been named in MSM so continue to refer to this person as 'your suspect'. You seem to know alot about this person and I am interested in hearing more details. Do you know of any other cities where he has 'allegedly' worked?
.......Daytona Beach, FL....Wilmington, NC.......Atlantic City, NJ......Myrtle Beach, SC.....?

Thanks for posting!

wm
 
  • #512
I think the person cited as being responsible for the security camera hard drive in this article should be investigated:

http://longislandserialkiller.com/2011/07/sunday-with-gus-by-jim-jones/

He is the owner of several long island strip stores. I posted a scenario on here a couple of months ago and this guy could easily be the guy that I described. Here is the scenario I envisioned:

I really feel that the SK lives in Oak Beach. I get this weird vision when I think about it. I see him driving north over the Robert Moses Causeway bridge with SG in the car. She is either knocked unconscious or dead. And as he is driving north, he sees the SCPD responding southbound toward Oak Beach. And all he can do is laugh that it took so long for the SCPD to respond.

He takes her to his place of business. It is located in an industrial park close by. Maybe Bay Shore, Deer Park or Hauppauge. He is the owner of the business and he opens the garage door and pulls the car inside. He then does his sick little deed and prepares the body for disposal. Except this body can never be found. Things got too out-of-hand in Oak Beach. But as long as they can't find a body, they can't get him for the crime. I feel he either dismembers her or disposed of her at sea.

I hope I am wrong about this. I hope SG is still alive. But this is the vision I get when I think about all of the facts of the crime and just play it through in my head.


The guy mentioned in this article is perfect for the crime. He even owns a strip of stores in West Islip that is partially vacant where he could have taken the body of SG prior to getting rid of her. I really hope that SCPD investigates this guy! Put pressure on him for destroying evidence!!
 
  • #513
This is my first time posting but I've been following this thread and doing a lot (too much) websleuthing. Being from the south shore of Long Island, I'm interested in this case. I used to hang out in the OBI parking lot as a teenager, (it used to be a cool place to hang out in high school), so I'm quite familiar with the area.
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Any thoughts on the theory?

Respectfully snipped for brevity...

I think you might be on to something... I tried to look into this person before, but found it difficult to find much on the net... and since I don't live anywhere close to your area... I have to leave that to you guys to find something there... He seems to have lived all over the place... I found several places in NY, NJ, CA and HI... I also found what I thought was a spouse, but maybe I was incorrect.

Anyway, I wish this persons name would come out in MSM with regards to this case... I think it/he deserves further sleuthing!!!
 
  • #514
You know, in the very beginning I had the very same vision of the crime, industrial area, secret set-up for ritual like act, every thing very neat and efficiently arranged...
 
  • #515
This is my first time posting but I've been following this thread and doing a lot (too much) websleuthing. Being from the south shore of Long Island, I'm interested in this case. I used to hang out in the OBI parking lot as a teenager, (it used to be a cool place to hang out in high school), so I'm quite familiar with the area.

Here's my theory for your consideration. My suspect has been mentioned here before but didn't receive much attention from this group, who seem to be, IMO, wrongly focused on the "usual suspects." I've provided some new information (online evidence) related to burlap that "may" present probable cause for a search warrant (see #10 - "Probable Cause" below). Since he has not been named by LE, I will follow the rules of the group and not identify him by name. I will also not post any specific links from my research as they may specifically identify him, but if you can't find something that I reference let me know and I'll try to assist with suggesting how to locate it online.

I'll start with a bit of background on my thought process, but just skip to #7 below if you don't feel like reading my brain dump. Let me know what you think:

1) I assume JB and the "Drifter" are not involved with any of the murders. The reason I assume this is because nothing that they did has the hallmark of a highly intelligent, organized serial killer. Would JB/Drifer really have invited a potential victim to the house, thus revealing their location? No way, never. The real killer would definitely use a throw-away phone and a proxy meet-up location, probably a local seedy hotel parking lot on the mainland with no cameras, to ensure that the women were alone (probably why LE went asking around at local hotels). He probably played it off as looking for a "car date." He would probably pay them the $1000 or so and then say that he had another $1000 at his house if they were willing to "get more comfortable" or spend the night.

2) I assume MP and CPH are also not involved with any of the murders in any way, shape or form. MP was SG's driver and she was a source of recurring revenue for him - no motive whatsoever. CPH was home with his wife. He never had the opportunity to kill SG, no matter how guilty he looks. He was basically framed by the real SK. If CPH were the SK, he would never be so reckless as to contact SG's mom from his home phone and indicate that she was staying at his "halfway house". Our SK is really smart, not really dumb. The real SK wouldn't even leave Internet records, let alone phone records. He would use a laptop and someone else's unsecured wireless network on the mainland to browse listings, or he would anonymize his online activities using a web proxy. In short, this guy is really smart, and really careful - that's why he has not yet been caught. Absolutely none of the "usual suspects" fit this profile. Not JB, CPH, MP or the Drifter.

3) I assume that the disappearance of SG and the 4 recovered victims are most definitely related. The probability is too high that they are unrelated. Thus, I assume that the SK resides in OB. If SG had never gone missing from OB, I would definitely think that the SK was from the mainland and just using the area as a dumping ground. OB would never be a likely area of interest. The SK probably knows this too, and that's why he was comfortable dumping right next door. For example, I wouldn't think that the other unrelated victims found near Tobay are from OB, or even Tobay Beach for that matter (there are houses located in Tobay too), would you?

4) The initial phone call to SG's mom was real - it actually happened - and IMO is the single best key to revealing the identity of the real SK. The caller claimed that he was CPH - but in my opinion he was not. The call was made to avoid a search of the area because the caller knew, for a fact, what LE would potentially find (i.e., 4 bodies of his other victims). The caller, against his better judgment, absolutely had to make this call because he was desperate. He knew that he had screwed up big time and revealed his general location, OB, and that he might ultimately be tied back to the other victims. In my theory, SG had inadvertently stumbled into his path, met all of his "victim" criteria and became a victim herself - a "too good to be true" chance opportunity for the SK. Whereas all of the other murders were highly pre-meditated, this murder was a completely spur of the moment decision to kill SG that he couldn't physically, mentally or emotionally resist, and it was a really bad decision. The SK's call to SG's mother was an act of desperation, a cover-up, to throw off both the family and LE. There's simply no other explanation, and thus the same person responsible for SG's disappearance is also responsible for the 4 other victims, and the SK in fact resides in OB. Again, really smart, and it probably would have worked perfectly if the family wasn't so passionate and determined about finding SG.

5) Lies come in a variety of forms. One type of lie in particular is called a "half-truth." If we look at the call to SG's parents, what might be truth, and what might be a lie? That the caller was CPH was a lie, in my opinion, however the caller obviously knew of CPH and maybe even thought that he would be a good scapegoat in a worst case scenario (i.e., maybe he knew about his lying on a job application, his employment history, etc.). That the caller was in fact a doctor might actually be the truth. Think about it. Who impersonates a doctor? That's pretty gutsy and would require some subject matter expertise. Who even knows enough about "halfway houses" to be able to even come up with the narrative that quickly? A doctor, particularly one that sees a high number of mental health related patients and probably recommends halfway houses to these patients on a regular basis. Even the word "halfway house" itself means somewhere between an institution (hospital/prison) and society.

6) SG called 911 and ran to GC's house. That's a well known fact. She wouldn't leave JB's house until she got paid. She probably threatened JB that she would call the cops and report an attack/rape if he didn't pay up. In my theory, she actually did make the call, from JB's house, and falsely reported an attack. At this point, JB or the drifter ultimately said something like "I'm going to get my gun/knife, you're dead bXXch", etc., or they may have even pulled out a gun or other weapon and convincingly threatened her to the point that she ran from the house. They were convincing enough that she began running/hiding for her life, knocking on GC's door and actually looking for protection. Gus was too old and wasn't going to be of help. So she ran down Anchor Way and, IMO, knocked on the very next door or began hiding in the very next yard that afforded some real protection. Pretty logical.

7) Who lives there? A Dr. with the last name beginning with the letter "U", mentioned on this board before. He's been trying agressively (3 different realtors) but unsuccessfully to sell his house beginning shortly after the time (3/2008) of the earliest murder/disappearance of Maureen-Bainard Barnes (6/2007), and stopped trying to sell the house just prior to the initial discovery of the bodies (11/2010), perhaps due to increased police presence and the desire to avoid suspicion if bodies were found. He has a brother who used to have a "Landscape Design" business in Suffolk County (i.e., lots of burlap that could be left over and at some point acquired by the Dr.), and the brother now works right down the road from a large hospital-run "Halfway House"). The Dr. is a specialist in Emergency Medicine (EM), the exact same specialty as CPH, and he's around death and disease all the time as an attending Emergency Room (ER) doctor. It is well studied that mental illness is common in the medical field, particularly in night-shift type positions such as the ER. It is also studied in scientific literature that medical professionals lie, deceive and tell half-truths as part of their profession in order to avoid having to tell a patient that they're going to die (or that they have a bad prognosis). Whoever made the call to SG's mom is very good at lying, and very good at understanding and manipulating people. This Dr. in particular is a "locum tenens" doctor which means that he fills-in for other Dr.s when they are away or a hospital needs a temporary attending physician for their Emergency Room. It's a very well paid position and leaves plenty of free time between jobs. He's also unmarried and needs to travel all over the place as temporary job positions require, likely staying in hotels paid for by the hiring hospital.

8) This Dr. grew up in NJ near Newark. When he was around 18 years old in the mid-1980s, there were a series of murdered prostitutes in Newark and surrounding areas investigated as a possible serial killer by a special task force set up by the mayor. Bodies were dumped all in the same general area. Coincidence? Maybe. 18 years old is a trying time for developing intimacy and personality issues (i.e., high testosterone, male's peak, etc.), and I would assume that the LISK has killed before, possibly gone into remission and is now back.

9) It's been mentioned somewhere in this group that this Dr. is suspected by the local OB community. That he is currently in Europe. Is he avoiding the collection of his DNA? Any info on current/recent locations or additional color on local suspicions would be helpful.

10) Probable Cause for a Search Warrant?: If you look up his address, you'll find images of the interior of his home from when it was up for sale. If you click through the thumbnails, you'll see a large BURLAP rug in his living room. This is a pretty uncommon item, IMO. He is also clearly into sailing. Historically, burlap was used as a sail for sailing. Sailing motif throughout (i.e., deck chair, paddles, sailboat models, etc.). Google maps shows two boats in his yard, the smaller of which is almost surely a small sailboat. Also he signed up recently on a sailing regatta website with a Caribbean connection. Burlap bags would very likely be used on a sailboat to store things given their ability to dry quickly. Listen, sailing is not too uncommon for the area, but I believe that the following might provide circumstantial evidence for a search warrant: (1) his patio has a direct line-of-sight to SG's last known location, GC's front porch where SG was seen and heard screaming; (2) the publicly available online image of a BURLAP in his house; (3) the fact that he has been trying to sell the house shortly after the inital disappearance of MBB; and (4) that he is currently "missing" according to the local OB community, possibly in Europe. This should be enough to provide LE with probable cause for a search warrant on the house. Further, people in the other house directly behind the Dr.'s heard the screaming, so it is highly unlikely that someone at the Dr.'s house wouldn't have heard SG screaming too. The house behind the Dr.'s house that I'm referring to is the house where the teenager reported hearing SG and seeing her "footsteps" in the sand. At the least, we know that SG was hiding behind GC's boat. Given that GC pointed towards Anchor Way in his interview when he indicated the direction that SG fled, it would be quite reasonable to at the very least obtain a search warrant for the Dr.'s yard to determine if SG in fact hid behind one of the Dr.'s boats, too. Perhaps she perished there from a heart attack and the Dr. never noticed because he's never home. If there are any additional items located on the outside premises (i.e., earring, forensic evidence, footprints, etc.), that would certainly provide additional probable cause for a broader search of the premises, car, etc.

11) Where is SG? My guess is that the same MO was used, with a slight twist. I would check the brush on north side of the Loop Parkway, northeast of the bridge entering Long Beach but before the drawbridge. Anyone from OB that worked in Nassau County west of the Meadowbrook Parkway (which the Dr. did at one point) would have taken this road to avoid the westbound traffic on Merrick Road between Wantagh Parkway and Meadowbrook Parkway. He would be familiar with this particular area and know traffic patterns on this stretch of the parkway, or complete lack thereof at certain times of the day. He wouldn't have dumped a body near Tobay or Robert Moses Parkway b/c its too close to home to where LE "might" look, which they ultimately did as we know. He would also avoid Wantagh Parkway because troopers are down there all the time looking for speeders (or just enjoying the scenery as I sometimes suspect). It would be highly unlikely for a trooper, a Nassau County cop or a Long Beach cop to be in the area that I mentioned because of jurisdictional reasons (I think Long Beach has jurisdiction for that stretch of the road but the Long Beach cops are pretty understaffed anyhow and would have absolutely no reason to be in that area ever - I actually think the Long Beach cops found a body in this exact area about 6-7 years ago). He would be in his comfort zone there, and he would never pass a traffic camera which are all over the mainland. There may however be a camera in the drawbridge operator booth, but I doubt it.

12) How do you prove this case? DNA. The SK has probably never been arrested/printed/swabbed. He probably has left DNA at other crime scenes, and I guarantee that he's killed more than 5. He's got an addiction, a habit that he can't break. Probably something about hating prostitutes and the power to take or save a life (ever hear of "Angel of Mercy"?). I once met someone who grew up in a part of Queens with street prostitutes in his neighborhood and he made a point about absolutely despising them - pretty over the top kind of passionate hatred, and I suspect he was hiding something like he'd been with a few of them before or maybe even picked up an STD. If you've ever been to Newark, you know that there are some parts of town that are, well, a bit shady. Seeing prostitutes as worthless, non-human objects is a hallmark of this SK, and this hatred was not developed overnight.

13) I don't know for sure any of the above - its a theory and if it's not the Dr. than I feel bad for suspecting him - maybe he's a great guy and an awesome doctor. Its just that his house is direct line-of-sight from his balcony to Gus Colleti's front stoop and I suspect his house would be the next place that I would run to if I were in fear that JB or someone from the "party" was really going to shoot, stab or otherwise kill me. I also suspect the Dr. would have heard the commotion at Gus' house and had time to come up with a quick plan. "Come on inside, I'm a doctor and can help you" probably would work pretty well. So would a commercially available stun gun/taser that would logically be used on a "trespasser".

14) LE should pretend to be a locum tenens recruiter with a job opportunity in a nice beach town. Get him to come in for an interview and give him a cup of coffee and collect the DNA and test it. You might get him for the Newark serial killings (if that was indeed him AND they actually have any DNA evidence) but his later-life sophistication and understanding of DNA technology (and how to remove and destroy his own DNA) would be too adept for the LI murders (the Dr. co-published a potato DNA sequence analysis as an undergrad, for instance). There may be other murders around the world that he committed where he left DNA earlier in his "career", so I would check it against all international DNA databases for sure. I would also sweep the area of Loop Parkway that I mentioned with cadaver dogs or hyperspectral imaging. SG was not out of her mind when she left JB's house - she was trying to get paid - and she may have fought her attacker and still have DNA residue on her person. I believe that the SK used burlap on purpose because they knew that keeping the body in burlap would allow the body to remain cool in the hot sun, allowing bacteria and microorganisms to flourish, thereby rapidly and permanently destroying any DNA evidence. Very smart. Not the standard bleach job suggested by TV crime shows, and quite creative since other materials like plastic would easily break down in the elements and would make the body heat up rather than remain cool and moist. The dryer the body, the more DNA would be available is my guess. Burlap is almost a too perfect choice to be by chance - this SK knows exactly what he's doing.

15) CPH looks guilty b/c he made calls to SG, etc. He's not the SK IMO. The real SK would never be that dumb (not that CPH is dumb, just that the real SK would not poke his head up like that). CPH just looks guilty because: (a) he was framed, and (b) he is doing what any one of us would have done in a similar situation - try and help the family of a missing woman. Where did he get SG's sister's phone number? Who knows, but he most likely got it from Diaz, Pak or SG's mom. But he never saw SG that night. She never made it to Labrador Ct., IMO. CPH is not a sociopath. He's invested in the community, he's got a family. We're looking for a real psycho, a mental loner with way above average IQ and plenty of time and money on his hands, not a do-gooder that became a suspect because of his own haphazard fumbling around in the investigation. If the SK had never made that call pretending he was CPH, we would never suspect or be having a conversation about CPH because CPH never would have come up in the investigation to begin with. Its not him. The person we're looking for is a deceiver who can repeatedly deceive street-smart women, their protectors/drivers/pimps, their families and LE. Doctors are expert at deception and do it all the time, especially in life and death situations.

Any thoughts on the theory?

It's good to see someone who is crazy enough to spend as much time on this case as me :)

a couple of quick things as I consider your theory,

your theory requires that the manorville victims were killed by another SK who happened to discard parts of his victims within yards of the gilgo victims. ridiculously unlikely in my opinion. your doc wasn't around then, and didn't work in riverhead just past manorville as cph did.

Your theory also requires another amazing coincidence, a girl's life is threatened to the extent that she calls 911 and runs for her life from JB, only to encounter a completly unrelated murderer moments later and meets her demise. Holy Catfish that's bad luck!

your theory also requires that cph was targeted as a patsy in the real SK phone call, and coincidentally without knowledge of said framing, CPH actually called the family. WHAT A COINCIDENCE! Man is that convenient!!

Also, if you research SK, the first thing you would learn is that the real SK WOULD poke his head out and into the investigation, as they almost always do, especially given the opportunity.

You say that CPH was framed? Why did he say on camera that he wasn't? I would think someone framed for murder would know it and acknowledge it.

Finally, he looks guilty because he lied repeatedly. Do gooder isn't a phrase i would apply to someone guilty of multiple gross negligence cases aganst minors. Check the court docs, don't take my word for it

Your theory does not require all of these highly improbabable coincdences if your suspect is CPH. Occam's Razor.

Plastic doesn't break down in the environment ... ever. Can you re explain that statement?

Do you happen to have a bionic appendage Inspector? .....go go gadget wooden leg?
 
  • #516
This is very confusing and I don't think this is moving in a good direction. I check out the LISK site and can't quite figure out what is going on but I do want to caution about what I think I have figured out for those who do not visit the LISK site. There was a person dominating the forum with very crazy, creepy comments which included insults to other posters. This was allowed to go on for a long time. Now it seems the person has been banned. Some thought he was the SK and the comments he made were certainly bizarre enough to seem that way. He would repeat his posts over and over on every thread. Now that he has been banned perhaps he has resorted to setting up fake facebook pages as a way of getting back at the people at LISK that insisted he be banned. So do not assume that any of the people being mentioned are doing the crazy posting. He may have figured out some of the posters and is now trying to impersonate them. I would be very careful with the sleuthing. The real SK must be very frustrated by now. Although he hasn't been caught, he has been exposed enough he is probably no longer able to lure any working girls. He may be resorting to internet forum games for some of the excitement he is missing.

I can see how someone might resort to sabotage as retribution. That would explain the posting of the phone number on that particular site. The comment on this man's profilecame from someone who also has posted on the LISK site, and that person clearly lives in the Oak Beach area. In fact, she clearly has an interest in true crime and potentially has worked as an escort judging by some of her racy photos and prevalence on dating and personals sites. Perhaps she met this other individual online as both of them were interested in this case. That would explain his actions and her connection.
 
  • #517
"My theory is whomever contacted these girls previous to their murders has them convinced that he is going to be the answer to their prayers."

this poster def got me thinking ... maybe there guard was down because they weren't going out on a 'date', hence the plain clothes. .......
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Some type of non sex date ruse would help explain the breaking of their security protocol: being picked up alone at odd location, leaving phone, telling no one where they were going... there is no need to figure out how to get an escort to break all of the safety rules if it isn't a date they are embarking on......
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(Shannan would not have been in oak beach as a result of this particular bait; same killer, different method or lack of method/opportunistic attack)

SBM (Snipped By Me) and BBM (Bolded by Me). First, welcome Heinekenman (love the name, by the way), Truthspider, and Inspctrgadget!!! Where to start.... hmmm.. I snipped part of Truthspider's post because it has the exact same thoughts that I have had and posted about in the past. The call to Amber Lynn Costello is one that particularly stands out in my mind. ALC was very careful when she took calls and left for calls. She often used her roommates (DS) phone to arrange business. She often got DS to wait in another room for her if it was an in-call, or watch as she was picked up if it was an out-call.

Source: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-serial-killer-a-victims-roommate-speaks.html
So WHAT happened on the night of 9/2/2010 that caused ALC to leave her home without anyone knowing where she was going, and to leave her cell phone behind, and to leave wearing a pink hoodie and jeans? AND.... very important point here.... to be going on a call where she was going to earn a very high fee of $1500.00? Who would pay that kind of money for a girl in a pink hoodie and jeans, and NO cell phone?

One of my theories: someone who was offering to make her a movie star. She would not need hooker clothing because "clothes would be provided", she should not bring her cell phone because "it could cause distractions and interfere with the equipment". I can definitely see a scenario where the girl is even placed in a bondage situation as part of the "movie set" before she realizes what is going on.

Inspctrgadget has some great points in his/her post from above. I have the same doctor flagged in my files from early on in this case. He has a very unusual name, and I never felt comfortable with the way he went poof right after the SG event. That has red flags that I totally agree need to be investigated. I would hope some investigative journalist would have picked up on this, and informed LE.... or better yet, LE would be savvy enough to have someone assigned to read here and get the clue. In any case, these women who have been found murdered deserve justice, and Shannon deserves both justice and to be found. I am so glad that we have GREAT people who refuse to give up. It really DOES matter, so keep up the good work, my friends. We can't let this case go cold. If nothing new comes out in the news soon, I may start contacting LE. I still have a voice mail on my cell phone from a previous case, where one of the officers involved in the investigation of a horrible case returned my call, and the obvious suspect was soon arrested. (Case: Tori Vienneau and her son Dean Springstube murdered by Dennis Potts) IT MATTERS THAT WE KEEP THESE CASES ACTIVE!
 
  • #518
I have wondered if the sk could have pretended to be a liason to a celebrity or powerful person and told them "security" would not permit her bringing a cell phone to prevent secret pictures being taken, potential blackmail, etc. Plain clothes to sneak past papparazzi.
 
  • #519
I have wondered if the sk could have pretended to be a liason to a celebrity or powerful person and told them "security" would not permit her bringing a cell phone to prevent secret pictures being taken, potential blackmail, etc. Plain clothes to sneak past papparazzi.

Redbird,

I swear that I was just going to post something very similar to your idea. My thinking was that the SK was a celebrity with a Long Island connection (i.e. Dee Snyder, Chris Angel, Billy Joel, etc.) The celebrity would have been with these girls before and they were comfortable (and awestruck) with him. And he persuades her not to bring her cell phone and to dress down because they will go shopping and get her all the clothes that she needs.

Just a thought. I really can't comprehend ALC not taking her cell phone. It boggles the mind!
 
  • #520
This is my first time posting but I've been following this thread and doing a lot (too much) websleuthing. Being from the south shore of Long Island, I'm interested in this case. I used to hang out in the OBI parking lot as a teenager, (it used to be a cool place to hang out in high school), so I'm quite familiar with the area.

Here's my theory for your consideration. My suspect has been mentioned here before but didn't receive much attention from this group, who seem to be, IMO, wrongly focused on the "usual suspects." I've provided some new information (online evidence) related to burlap that "may" present probable cause for a search warrant (see #10 - "Probable Cause" below). Since he has not been named by LE, I will follow the rules of the group and not identify him by name. I will also not post any specific links from my research as they may specifically identify him, but if you can't find something that I reference let me know and I'll try to assist with suggesting how to locate it online.

I'll start with a bit of background on my thought process, but just skip to #7 below if you don't feel like reading my brain dump. Let me know what you think:

1) I assume JB and the "Drifter" are not involved with any of the murders. The reason I assume this is because nothing that they did has the hallmark of a highly intelligent, organized serial killer. Would JB/Drifer really have invited a potential victim to the house, thus revealing their location? No way, never. The real killer would definitely use a throw-away phone and a proxy meet-up location, probably a local seedy hotel parking lot on the mainland with no cameras, to ensure that the women were alone (probably why LE went asking around at local hotels). He probably played it off as looking for a "car date." He would probably pay them the $1000 or so and then say that he had another $1000 at his house if they were willing to "get more comfortable" or spend the night.

2) I assume MP and CPH are also not involved with any of the murders in any way, shape or form. MP was SG's driver and she was a source of recurring revenue for him - no motive whatsoever. CPH was home with his wife. He never had the opportunity to kill SG, no matter how guilty he looks. He was basically framed by the real SK. If CPH were the SK, he would never be so reckless as to contact SG's mom from his home phone and indicate that she was staying at his "halfway house". Our SK is really smart, not really dumb. The real SK wouldn't even leave Internet records, let alone phone records. He would use a laptop and someone else's unsecured wireless network on the mainland to browse listings, or he would anonymize his online activities using a web proxy. In short, this guy is really smart, and really careful - that's why he has not yet been caught. Absolutely none of the "usual suspects" fit this profile. Not JB, CPH, MP or the Drifter.

3) I assume that the disappearance of SG and the 4 recovered victims are most definitely related. The probability is too high that they are unrelated. Thus, I assume that the SK resides in OB. If SG had never gone missing from OB, I would definitely think that the SK was from the mainland and just using the area as a dumping ground. OB would never be a likely area of interest. The SK probably knows this too, and that's why he was comfortable dumping right next door. For example, I wouldn't think that the other unrelated victims found near Tobay are from OB, or even Tobay Beach for that matter (there are houses located in Tobay too), would you?

4) The initial phone call to SG's mom was real - it actually happened - and IMO is the single best key to revealing the identity of the real SK. The caller claimed that he was CPH - but in my opinion he was not. The call was made to avoid a search of the area because the caller knew, for a fact, what LE would potentially find (i.e., 4 bodies of his other victims). The caller, against his better judgment, absolutely had to make this call because he was desperate. He knew that he had screwed up big time and revealed his general location, OB, and that he might ultimately be tied back to the other victims. In my theory, SG had inadvertently stumbled into his path, met all of his "victim" criteria and became a victim herself - a "too good to be true" chance opportunity for the SK. Whereas all of the other murders were highly pre-meditated, this murder was a completely spur of the moment decision to kill SG that he couldn't physically, mentally or emotionally resist, and it was a really bad decision. The SK's call to SG's mother was an act of desperation, a cover-up, to throw off both the family and LE. There's simply no other explanation, and thus the same person responsible for SG's disappearance is also responsible for the 4 other victims, and the SK in fact resides in OB. Again, really smart, and it probably would have worked perfectly if the family wasn't so passionate and determined about finding SG.

5) Lies come in a variety of forms. One type of lie in particular is called a "half-truth." If we look at the call to SG's parents, what might be truth, and what might be a lie? That the caller was CPH was a lie, in my opinion, however the caller obviously knew of CPH and maybe even thought that he would be a good scapegoat in a worst case scenario (i.e., maybe he knew about his lying on a job application, his employment history, etc.). That the caller was in fact a doctor might actually be the truth. Think about it. Who impersonates a doctor? That's pretty gutsy and would require some subject matter expertise. Who even knows enough about "halfway houses" to be able to even come up with the narrative that quickly? A doctor, particularly one that sees a high number of mental health related patients and probably recommends halfway houses to these patients on a regular basis. Even the word "halfway house" itself means somewhere between an institution (hospital/prison) and society.

6) SG called 911 and ran to GC's house. That's a well known fact. She wouldn't leave JB's house until she got paid. She probably threatened JB that she would call the cops and report an attack/rape if he didn't pay up. In my theory, she actually did make the call, from JB's house, and falsely reported an attack. At this point, JB or the drifter ultimately said something like "I'm going to get my gun/knife, you're dead bXXch", etc., or they may have even pulled out a gun or other weapon and convincingly threatened her to the point that she ran from the house. They were convincing enough that she began running/hiding for her life, knocking on GC's door and actually looking for protection. Gus was too old and wasn't going to be of help. So she ran down Anchor Way and, IMO, knocked on the very next door or began hiding in the very next yard that afforded some real protection. Pretty logical.

7) Who lives there? A Dr. with the last name beginning with the letter "U", mentioned on this board before. He's been trying agressively (3 different realtors) but unsuccessfully to sell his house beginning shortly after the time (3/2008) of the earliest murder/disappearance of Maureen-Bainard Barnes (6/2007), and stopped trying to sell the house just prior to the initial discovery of the bodies (11/2010), perhaps due to increased police presence and the desire to avoid suspicion if bodies were found. He has a brother who used to have a "Landscape Design" business in Suffolk County (i.e., lots of burlap that could be left over and at some point acquired by the Dr.), and the brother now works right down the road from a large hospital-run "Halfway House"). The Dr. is a specialist in Emergency Medicine (EM), the exact same specialty as CPH, and he's around death and disease all the time as an attending Emergency Room (ER) doctor. It is well studied that mental illness is common in the medical field, particularly in night-shift type positions such as the ER. It is also studied in scientific literature that medical professionals lie, deceive and tell half-truths as part of their profession in order to avoid having to tell a patient that they're going to die (or that they have a bad prognosis). Whoever made the call to SG's mom is very good at lying, and very good at understanding and manipulating people. This Dr. in particular is a "locum tenens" doctor which means that he fills-in for other Dr.s when they are away or a hospital needs a temporary attending physician for their Emergency Room. It's a very well paid position and leaves plenty of free time between jobs. He's also unmarried and needs to travel all over the place as temporary job positions require, likely staying in hotels paid for by the hiring hospital.

8) This Dr. grew up in NJ near Newark. When he was around 18 years old in the mid-1980s, there were a series of murdered prostitutes in Newark and surrounding areas investigated as a possible serial killer by a special task force set up by the mayor. Bodies were dumped all in the same general area. Coincidence? Maybe. 18 years old is a trying time for developing intimacy and personality issues (i.e., high testosterone, male's peak, etc.), and I would assume that the LISK has killed before, possibly gone into remission and is now back.

9) It's been mentioned somewhere in this group that this Dr. is suspected by the local OB community. That he is currently in Europe. Is he avoiding the collection of his DNA? Any info on current/recent locations or additional color on local suspicions would be helpful.

10) Probable Cause for a Search Warrant?: If you look up his address, you'll find images of the interior of his home from when it was up for sale. If you click through the thumbnails, you'll see a large BURLAP rug in his living room. This is a pretty uncommon item, IMO. He is also clearly into sailing. Historically, burlap was used as a sail for sailing. Sailing motif throughout (i.e., deck chair, paddles, sailboat models, etc.). Google maps shows two boats in his yard, the smaller of which is almost surely a small sailboat. Also he signed up recently on a sailing regatta website with a Caribbean connection. Burlap bags would very likely be used on a sailboat to store things given their ability to dry quickly. Listen, sailing is not too uncommon for the area, but I believe that the following might provide circumstantial evidence for a search warrant: (1) his patio has a direct line-of-sight to SG's last known location, GC's front porch where SG was seen and heard screaming; (2) the publicly available online image of a BURLAP in his house; (3) the fact that he has been trying to sell the house shortly after the inital disappearance of MBB; and (4) that he is currently "missing" according to the local OB community, possibly in Europe. This should be enough to provide LE with probable cause for a search warrant on the house. Further, people in the other house directly behind the Dr.'s heard the screaming, so it is highly unlikely that someone at the Dr.'s house wouldn't have heard SG screaming too. The house behind the Dr.'s house that I'm referring to is the house where the teenager reported hearing SG and seeing her "footsteps" in the sand. At the least, we know that SG was hiding behind GC's boat. Given that GC pointed towards Anchor Way in his interview when he indicated the direction that SG fled, it would be quite reasonable to at the very least obtain a search warrant for the Dr.'s yard to determine if SG in fact hid behind one of the Dr.'s boats, too. Perhaps she perished there from a heart attack and the Dr. never noticed because he's never home. If there are any additional items located on the outside premises (i.e., earring, forensic evidence, footprints, etc.), that would certainly provide additional probable cause for a broader search of the premises, car, etc.

11) Where is SG? My guess is that the same MO was used, with a slight twist. I would check the brush on north side of the Loop Parkway, northeast of the bridge entering Long Beach but before the drawbridge. Anyone from OB that worked in Nassau County west of the Meadowbrook Parkway (which the Dr. did at one point) would have taken this road to avoid the westbound traffic on Merrick Road between Wantagh Parkway and Meadowbrook Parkway. He would be familiar with this particular area and know traffic patterns on this stretch of the parkway, or complete lack thereof at certain times of the day. He wouldn't have dumped a body near Tobay or Robert Moses Parkway b/c its too close to home to where LE "might" look, which they ultimately did as we know. He would also avoid Wantagh Parkway because troopers are down there all the time looking for speeders (or just enjoying the scenery as I sometimes suspect). It would be highly unlikely for a trooper, a Nassau County cop or a Long Beach cop to be in the area that I mentioned because of jurisdictional reasons (I think Long Beach has jurisdiction for that stretch of the road but the Long Beach cops are pretty understaffed anyhow and would have absolutely no reason to be in that area ever - I actually think the Long Beach cops found a body in this exact area about 6-7 years ago). He would be in his comfort zone there, and he would never pass a traffic camera which are all over the mainland. There may however be a camera in the drawbridge operator booth, but I doubt it.

12) How do you prove this case? DNA. The SK has probably never been arrested/printed/swabbed. He probably has left DNA at other crime scenes, and I guarantee that he's killed more than 5. He's got an addiction, a habit that he can't break. Probably something about hating prostitutes and the power to take or save a life (ever hear of "Angel of Mercy"?). I once met someone who grew up in a part of Queens with street prostitutes in his neighborhood and he made a point about absolutely despising them - pretty over the top kind of passionate hatred, and I suspect he was hiding something like he'd been with a few of them before or maybe even picked up an STD. If you've ever been to Newark, you know that there are some parts of town that are, well, a bit shady. Seeing prostitutes as worthless, non-human objects is a hallmark of this SK, and this hatred was not developed overnight.

13) I don't know for sure any of the above - its a theory and if it's not the Dr. than I feel bad for suspecting him - maybe he's a great guy and an awesome doctor. Its just that his house is direct line-of-sight from his balcony to Gus Colleti's front stoop and I suspect his house would be the next place that I would run to if I were in fear that JB or someone from the "party" was really going to shoot, stab or otherwise kill me. I also suspect the Dr. would have heard the commotion at Gus' house and had time to come up with a quick plan. "Come on inside, I'm a doctor and can help you" probably would work pretty well. So would a commercially available stun gun/taser that would logically be used on a "trespasser".

14) LE should pretend to be a locum tenens recruiter with a job opportunity in a nice beach town. Get him to come in for an interview and give him a cup of coffee and collect the DNA and test it. You might get him for the Newark serial killings (if that was indeed him AND they actually have any DNA evidence) but his later-life sophistication and understanding of DNA technology (and how to remove and destroy his own DNA) would be too adept for the LI murders (the Dr. co-published a potato DNA sequence analysis as an undergrad, for instance). There may be other murders around the world that he committed where he left DNA earlier in his "career", so I would check it against all international DNA databases for sure. I would also sweep the area of Loop Parkway that I mentioned with cadaver dogs or hyperspectral imaging. SG was not out of her mind when she left JB's house - she was trying to get paid - and she may have fought her attacker and still have DNA residue on her person. I believe that the SK used burlap on purpose because they knew that keeping the body in burlap would allow the body to remain cool in the hot sun, allowing bacteria and microorganisms to flourish, thereby rapidly and permanently destroying any DNA evidence. Very smart. Not the standard bleach job suggested by TV crime shows, and quite creative since other materials like plastic would easily break down in the elements and would make the body heat up rather than remain cool and moist. The dryer the body, the more DNA would be available is my guess. Burlap is almost a too perfect choice to be by chance - this SK knows exactly what he's doing.

15) CPH looks guilty b/c he made calls to SG, etc. He's not the SK IMO. The real SK would never be that dumb (not that CPH is dumb, just that the real SK would not poke his head up like that). CPH just looks guilty because: (a) he was framed, and (b) he is doing what any one of us would have done in a similar situation - try and help the family of a missing woman. Where did he get SG's sister's phone number? Who knows, but he most likely got it from Diaz, Pak or SG's mom. But he never saw SG that night. She never made it to Labrador Ct., IMO. CPH is not a sociopath. He's invested in the community, he's got a family. We're looking for a real psycho, a mental loner with way above average IQ and plenty of time and money on his hands, not a do-gooder that became a suspect because of his own haphazard fumbling around in the investigation. If the SK had never made that call pretending he was CPH, we would never suspect or be having a conversation about CPH because CPH never would have come up in the investigation to begin with. Its not him. The person we're looking for is a deceiver who can repeatedly deceive street-smart women, their protectors/drivers/pimps, their families and LE. Doctors are expert at deception and do it all the time, especially in life and death situations.

Any thoughts on the theory?


inspctrgadget,

Your theory is highly flawed because CPH has admitted to making the call. Therefore, nobody was setting him up.

Also, The emergency room doctor was rumored to be in Europe but I think he actually relocated to Salt Lake City, UT. He should definitely be investgated, however, CPH is looking much more suspicious at this point.
 
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