NY-LI-4 bodies on Beach-Possible SK-12/10-All id'd,4 more found 3/11 #3

[CanManEh]

hey all this not in 4's sounds familliar... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[minazoe]

they have some guy on fox right now talking about stalker apps.

 

[minazoe]

hey all this not in 4's sounds familliar... Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

it does?:waitasec:

 

[epiphany]

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/child_slay_shock_F6ppvCWkouPkcrlTS608JL

BBM as young as an infant implies not a fetus.

But it is the Yellow link so who knows. Really the post was to correct the Baby fetus from the other case and not this one since as you said we dont know so I should have been specific but my opinoin was based on the wording of the yellow article.

The media makes it hard to be correct anymore.

Lol...I love my daily NY Times, but when I want information on local crime stories in the 5 boroughs and vicinity, I will read the NY Post and NY Daily News crime reporters' articles. Both papers have crime journalists that have a rapport with unnamed sources in LE in both NYC and Long Island. There is a relationship between those in LE with NYC origins and Long Island/Long Islanders.

Now, if I want to read and learn about anything else under the sun, again-I love my NY Times. BTW, The NY Times is certainly not immune to bias, even victim-bashing reporting. Readers got a taste of such in The NY Times' recent reporting of the Texas gang-rape of an 11 year old child. A steady diet of any one food group is boring, not to mention, unhealthy!

The New York Times' sloppy, slanted child rape story
A piece on a vicious assault notes an 11-year-old victim's clothes and makeup

http://www.salon.com/life/feature/2011/03/09/new_york_times_blames_11_year_old_rape_victim

 

[tfrohning]

I wonder if it is possible that one of the victims was pregnant and the remains of the unborn child was found?

That what I was thinking !

I really think " IT TIME FOR PRESSER" I want to hear this from LE.

The first thing I thought was the Mesa Killer
Snip

As a result of the subsequent police investigation, authorities discovered the remains of 11 women[1] and an unborn fetus buried in the area


[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Mesa_murders[/ame]

my question is was the child in the same grave has a victim or in whole different area?

 

[tfrohning]

I was thinking the pattern of the bodies laid out could be a DNA profile model

The measurements apart would represent a specific DNA band and the next another until the pattern completed the DNA code/Band. A childs body could be important as some DNA bands can be much shorter.

If that is the case then the AC victims would be part of the profile and the LI another part and the set of 4 finds at a time isnt as important as the whole line of 8 so the patterne would be 4 bands ..space 8 bands etc..

I have limited information to draw off of in DNA but I think if this is the case the Highways and roads would be part of the model. IMO

I hope someone who hd working knowledge of the subject logs on and can either debunk it our explain it.



There is no such thing as a good serial killer. Not even Dexter who is not real which farther validates my point of there being no such thing.

I never ever thought of DNA code ever ! Very Good!

Question...Who DNA would it be the SK? Who has their own DNA profile?
Can you get copy of your DNA profile?

 

[epiphany]

For those who thought or are now thinking that there may be more than one individual involved:

Sources told ABC News that there are multiple suspects who may be linked to the Long Island bodies.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/long-island-serial-killer-calls-sister-melissa-barthelemy/story?id=13346276

Hey, hold on a second! Even the NY Post qualified their source as being "a law enforcement source":

One of the four sets of remains recently found on a remote Long Island beach belongs to a baby or a child -- not a grown woman, a law-enforcement source told The Post.

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/child_slay_shock_F6ppvCWkouPkcrlTS608JL

 

[matou]

LE should be able to tell an infant's body from a small female just from the length of the bones and the skull if it is there. There would either be no teeth for an infant less than 3 months and some baby teeth if older than that. I have a feeling it will be the child of one of the victims.

 

[Wondergirl]

This early article, posted by Suziq (you can read it with no subscription), indicates 2 separate COD's for at least 2 of the AC victims:

Ms. Raffo died of ligature strangulation and is believed to have lain in the ditch for a “couple of days,” according to Mr. Blitz’s statement. A woman thought to have been in her 20s died of asphyxia. No cause of death has been found for the woman with the Yolly tattoo or another woman thought to have been in her 30s.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/23/nyregion/23slay.html?_r=1

 

[epiphany]

This early article, posted by Suziq (you can read it with no subscription), indicates 2 separate COD's for at least 2 of the AC victims:

Regarding the COD-strangulation of the LI four, I believe that LE will withhold whether it was manual or ligature in order to weed out false confessions.

 

[tfrohning]

Bodies Search Again Shuts Ocean Parkway
Police continue search in Nassau for human remains related to the Gilgo bodies investigation
http://babylonvillage.patch.com/articles/bodies-search-closes-ocean-parkway-once-again

 

[tfrohning]

snip
A news service reported this morning that bones have been found, as well as clothing, and that police are requesting an anthropologist for identification purposes. Nassau police declined comment on the report, and officials at the scene have not yet confirmed or commented on the claim.

from link above

 

[waltzingmatilda]

Here is what I am thinking at this point in time based on the map of the disposal site.

The most recent remains are thought to have been disposed of before the remains of those found in DEC. per the news reports.

The SK could have been scratched and scraped by the growth while disposing of the first remains and there is a probability that he contracted a case of poison ivey in the process. Because of this, he amended his disposal method and began stuffing the remains into burlap sacks. This disposal method made it easier for him to heave the bodies out of the vehicle and into the brush.

I just saw some good footage on Foxnews and the terrain is brutal. Wouldn't it make sense to toss a body in a sack than dragging a corpse from a vehicle and hiding it in the brush? Sorry to be so graphic. You all know how my mind is always ticking....

I can't figure why LE feels the AC and LI cases are connected. It can't be the method of killing as I recall reading that one of the AC victims was asphixated while another was choked with a ligature. What could be the common demoninator here that denotes a connection in the cases?

MOO

wm

I agree with whoever said pages back that the SK was more pragmatic than ritualistic. (can't remember who, sorry) I think this person escalated to an easier and quicker method of disposal. Get in and get out as quickly as possible.

http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/location-of-bodies-in-gilgo-beach-1.2541830

 

[epiphany]

I never ever thought of DNA code ever ! Very Good!

Question...Who DNA would it be the SK? Who has their own DNA profile?
Can you get copy of your DNA profile?

Here's a link to the site (photo) that Soulmagent posted last night:

http://www.biology.arizona.edu/human_bio/problem_sets/DNA_forensics_2/09t.html

 

[Verity]

snip
A news service reported this morning that bones have been found, as well as clothing, and that police are requesting an anthropologist for identification purposes. Nassau police declined comment on the report, and officials at the scene have not yet confirmed or commented on the claim.

from link above

Newsday is reporting bones found this morning are animal bones. They have moved on.
ETA: http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking/animal-bones-found-in-jones-beach-search-1.2811767
No mention of clothes.

 

[tfrohning]

Officials said Nassau County Executive Edward Mangano will hold a news conference at the search site at 2 p.m.

http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking/animal-bones-found-in-jones-beach-search-1.2811767

thanks verity! my stomach dropped!

 

[waltzingmatilda]

Fox News just reported that a child's remains were (possibly) found on Gilgo Beach.

 

[epiphany]

A poster was searching for this reference to the diner owner and a description of the vehicle he last saw Ms. Raffo (AC victim) enter. Can't remember the poster. Here it is:

On the morning of Nov. 19, Mr. Boccino said, Ms. Raffo showed up at the diner shortly after it opened at 2:30 a.m. and ordered her usual breakfast: two fried eggs, American cheese and sausage on a kaiser roll, and a Mountain Dew. He said she then walked out on the street and got into a Black Nissan Maxima with out-of-state license plates.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/05/nyregion/05slay.html?pagewanted=all

 

[minazoe]

Tilda....I am thinking a tall guy could stand on the back of a pick up and get enough leverage to pitch a body in a sack....into the brush...

yep...uh huh...good thinking!

 

[trigger]

Bones found on northside of parkway. Not sure if human.

Just on 1010 wins


Opps...just saw they are not human on above post, sorry...