NY NY - Robert Mayer, 46, Dix Hills, 14 Jun 2013 - # 5

[windstorm]

I think he put the phone in airplane mode on the northern state at the rt 110 exit and then turned the phone off completely wen he was in the garage.

IMO

If they both had iPhones, you can still get iMessages through wifi if it's in airplane mode...

 

[xheraldina]

And you can't remove an iPhone battery, correct?

I think you are correct!

 

[Momoffourboys]

And you can't remove an iPhone battery, correct?

No. Battery cannot be removed in iphone.
SIM card can be removed.
OR....you can just drop iphone in cup of water and kill it.

 

[JustyThoughts]

Whew.... finally got to end; it's been a couple bizzy days. I knew something was coming down when I saw the number of additional pages. Yall been doing good work.

In my opinion, a lot more information (facts) have not been reported/shared for whatever or whomever's reason. MMO is on the reported pings - the "last reported ping at 1:45" is in a completely different direction from the Scrap yard and the house. If the phone was not turned off until 2:45 - as reported (and we are under the impression that RM was at the house at that time).... there would be additional pings. Different from the stand point of 1.more, 2.different tower, 3.different quad of same tower (this would be on record).
Also, MMO - if RM left on his own, I believe he would have a burner phone. easy peasy to get one. MMO- I would go as far as to suggest that it is possible he could have made a quick call to family to let them know he is OK and away. Make the calls - toss that phone in the ocean and begin using another burner in his "new life".

Also, MMO - that is a BIG garage. Geez, the 40 ft is about the size of the front of my house. Maybe that was his "cave" as in my opinion from the interviews the rest of the house is .... I'll just say... very orderly. I've never had a garage with drawers, so have to defer on that part.

I think the suggestions on places he would like to be is a good line to follow. Also, his mannerisims. This case was slow to get off the mark (MMO) and just that fact has seemed odd to be since day one. I think WS discussions has opened the crack to more clarity and hopefully the truth about what happened with RM.

 

[CuriousAmI]

Whew.... finally got to end; it's been a couple bizzy days. I knew something was coming down when I saw the number of additional pages. Yall been doing good work.

In my opinion, a lot more information (facts) have not been reported/shared for whatever or whomever's reason. MMO is on the reported pings - the "last reported ping at 1:45" is in a completely different direction from the Scrap yard and the house. If the phone was not turned off until 2:45 - as reported (and we are under the impression that RM was at the house at that time).... there would be additional pings. Different from the stand point of 1.more, 2.different tower, 3.different quad of same tower (this would be on record).
Also, MMO - if RM left on his own, I believe he would have a burner phone. easy peasy to get one. MMO- I would go as far as to suggest that it is possible he could have made a quick call to family to let them know he is OK and away. Make the calls - toss that phone in the ocean and begin using another burner in his "new life".

Also, MMO - that is a BIG garage. Geez, the 40 ft is about the size of the front of my house. Maybe that was his "cave" as in my opinion from the interviews the rest of the house is .... I'll just say... very orderly. I've never had a garage with drawers, so have to defer on that part.

I think the suggestions on places he would like to be is a good line to follow. Also, his mannerisims. This case was slow to get off the mark (MMO) and just that fact has seemed odd to be since day one. I think WS discussions has opened the crack to more clarity and hopefully the truth about what happened with RM.

Does anyone recall how we learned about the pings? Was it from one source? If so, well, you know where I'm going with this.

 

[CuriousAmI]

Let's all keep going good people of WS. Let's not let negativity get in the way.

 

[Trackergd]

Let's all keep going good people of WS. Let's not let negativity get in the way.

Still here sleuthing away! :seeya:

This place is tame compared to the shark tank websites I have been on over the years.... :floorlaugh:

 

[Treelights]

Could one reason be for the additional info released, is to keep RM talked about?
If they released everything at one time, would people talk about him, give their ideas, then move on?
IMOO.

 

[Eileen730]

What a revelation. Yes, a lot of people with insensitive remarks are going from here to there.

I believe it the opposite.

 

[Treelights]

Also with my last thought about releasing more info now so that RM would be current in people's minds; I have not viewed the facebook page, but from what I have read on this thread, people are banned there, or when they get too personal, or have too many questions, that site is not a happy camper shall we say.
So therefore, what does releasing the info actually accomplish?
Just to keep him talked about on a superficial level, but if someone asks a pertinent question that could be of use, then that's getting "too close" or too personal?
What is all that about?
Either ya want help, or you don't.........
Strange!!!!!
IMOO.

 

[cluciano63]

If the sexes were reversed, wife missing, her phone, money, purse and cash left behind...there is no question in my mind what the primary scenario would be for most or at least many people. JMO

 

[JustyThoughts]

I took a field trip on the web.. :ufo: found :bigfight: decided

Came back to WS to :chillout: and be a :websleuther: :findinglink:

 

[CuriousAmI]

Also with my last thought about releasing more info now so that RM would be current in people's minds; I have not viewed the facebook page, but from what I have read on this thread, people are banned there, or when they get too personal, or have too many questions, that site is not a happy camper shall we say.
So therefore, what does releasing the info actually accomplish?
Just to keep him talked about on a superficial level, but if someone asks a pertinent question that could be of use, then that's getting "too close" or too personal?
What is all that about?
Either ya want help, or you don't.........
Strange!!!!!
IMOO.

Agreed. I don't want to harp on this, but seeing a group of concerned, normal people who just want to help, being called "rabid dogs" and "circling vultures" was way over the top, IMHO. And this was from an Admin, or someone very close to the admins. They should really re-group and make a decision once and for all to either change the page name to a support group, or just let people speak. You can't have it both ways.

 

[Treelights]

I took a field trip on the web.. :ufo: found :bigfight: decided

Came back to WS to :chillout: and be a :websleuther: :findinglink:

I love your Words in Pictures!
Great visual!
IMOO.

 

[Trackergd]

Agreed. I don't want to harp on this, but seeing a group of concerned, normal people who just want to help, being called "rabid dogs" and "circling vultures" was way over the top, IMHO. And this was from an Admin, or someone very close to the admins. They should really re-group and make a decision once and for all to either change the name page to a support group, or just let people speak. You can't have it both ways.

From the FB links I have seen posted on cases here, it appears that one is well off the bell curve...

I think we have a two or three good working theories here. And I would hazard a guess we have a few more professionals and seasoned sleuths here.

Not sure about anyone else, but over the years I have noticed that folks or organizations involved tend to get a bit more jumpy, deceptive and sometimes downright hostile the closer you get to the truth undiscovered.

 

[xheraldina]

Agreed. I don't want to harp on this, but seeing a group of concerned, normal people who just want to help, being called "rabid dogs" and "circling vultures" was way over the top, IMHO. And this was from an Admin, or someone very close to the admins. They should really re-group and make a decision once and for all to either change the page name to a support group, or just let people speak. You can't have it both ways.

Completely agree with you!:rockon:

 

[hot cawfeee]

holy cow!!! standing room only today!!!!!

First a question-----the $ 300---had said it was a middle finger gesture---I am wondering now if its RM's Union dues. I don't know how their dues are paid --maybe thru a payroll deduction or union member pays it how ever many times a year. But Sept. is the fourth quarter of the year in fiancial circles so maybe it holds for the union as well.
The dues being paid means the family would have medical coverage. Just a thought.

 

[VeryCleverGirl]

If the sexes were reversed, wife missing, her phone, money, purse and cash left behind...there is no question in my mind what the primary scenario would be for most or at least many people. JMO

true...you would think something nefarious....but I would add that when a wife goes missing and it's a dark scenario....the purse is missing along with the phone.....and anything else she carried on a reg basis

 

[ElizaAvalon]

If the sexes were reversed, wife missing, her phone, money, purse and cash left behind...there is no question in my mind what the primary scenario would be for most or at least many people. JMO

Oh yeah. I've said this many times.

 

[VeryCleverGirl]

Also with my last thought about releasing more info now so that RM would be current in people's minds; I have not viewed the facebook page, but from what I have read on this thread, people are banned there, or when they get too personal, or have too many questions, that site is not a happy camper shall we say.
So therefore, what does releasing the info actually accomplish?
Just to keep him talked about on a superficial level, but if someone asks a pertinent question that could be of use, then that's getting "too close" or too personal?
What is all that about?
Either ya want help, or you don't.........
Strange!!!!!
IMOO.

A member of the family just rebuked the admins saying if they want a "support' page they should create one for JUST family and friends....he said you cannot expect over 2000 people to abide by your 'rules" good point!