NY NY - Robert Mayer, 46, Dix Hills, 14 Jun 2013 - # 9

[CatFancier]

Went back and confirmed. It was Ray Gricar's brother who committed suicide, NOT Rob's.

 

[Curious Cathy]

Force Ten, do you have a theory on what happened to Robert Mayer? I would be fascinated to see what you think took place here?

 

[OldSteve]

Would love to know what LE thinks about this case!
Unless he was abducted by aliens (from outer space, I mean :floorlaugh: ) can't make up my noggin if he:
.committed suicide
.left to start a new life
.was victim of a hit

 

[Curious Cathy]

Would love to know what LE thinks about this case!
Unless he was abducted by aliens (from outer space, I mean :floorlaugh: ) can't make up my noggin if he:
.committed suicide
.left to start a new life
.was victim of a hit

I hope the answer is behind door number 2 - it would mean he is alive. I am getting a vibe that he is going to be one of those missing people that resurfaces eventually. Not feeling like he crossed over at all.

 

[Force Ten]

Force Ten, do you have a theory on what happened to Robert Mayer? I would be fascinated to see what you think took place here?

All I feel is that RM was in complete control at least up until the 2:41 mark. He drove home to BE home, stay home. All little signals and signs indicate to me, Robert Mayer was ending his work week very normally. From that point on, was a breaking point, for somebody. My gut feeling is it is not someone internal or the from anyone's past. I think it's more to something that surrounds RM. But like anyone, I'm just shootin marbles here. There is much info to dissect and discern from. But not from here unfortunately.

 

[windstorm]

Anybody know how the seats on a GTO like RM's work? For instance, some seats if you hit the button on the side of the seat back to tilt it forward, the whole seat slides forward. In my truck, when you take the key out of the ignition, the seat automatically slides all the way back.

I wonder if the seat was adjusted forward or if the seat back was also tilted toward the steering wheel.

Does any of that make sense?

 

[Curious Cathy]

All I feel is that RM was in complete control at least up until the 2:41 mark. He drove home to BE home, stay home. All little signals and signs indicate to me, Robert Mayer was ending his work week very normally. From that point on, was a breaking point, for somebody. My gut feeling is it is not someone internal or the from anyone's past. I think it's more to something that surrounds RM. But like anyone, I'm just shootin marbles here. There is much info to dissect and discern from. But not from here unfortunately.

I agree with you on all the normal behaviors regarding his Friday up until he got to the garage. So, you are saying it may be something that "surrounds" RM, meaning something not connected to his immediate family, as in maybe something took place place that his immediate family knew nothing about but he was surrounded by? All these inquiries into people's past is just digging up old dirt and has nothing to do with what he was surrounded by? Something must be rattling around in your mind along the lines of him having some kind of goings on that noone close to him knew about. You talk about him in the present tense. Do you also feel like I do that he is alive and maybe running from someone?

 

[maddy65]

My opinions keep changing.At first I thought maybe he was starting a new life. Than I thought maybe he was caught up in something or was associated with the mob. Now I honestly don't know what to think of this case. It is so strange and so little facts to go on. LE may have leads and the silence may be on purpose as they are building a case. My gut tells me now that the wife knows what happened and I am beginning to think is he really missing?

 

[hot cawfeee]

Good morning all------my first cup is kicking in so I have questions at the ready.
I've been thinking alot about dogs and scents.
Since we are at the 3 month mark and evidence, scents can change I wondered if different dogs and/or procedures are used now. Or if its useless to use scent dogs and perhaps its time for cadaver dogs.
Another question---should different clothing be used now for scenting? Are jeans not best for the dogs to smell and a t-shirt is better or undershirt b/c its closer to the skin?
We didn't know what was first given to the dogs--maybe there is better clothing.
Have the dogs been to the house at all??? In the garage, on the grounds, in the home?
Maybe THE CAR is being held to maintain scent????

 

[ElizaAvalon]

Any locals been around the Pilgrim site? Any stories or experiences? Just curious.

Well... It's always been this spooky place. It is a very ominous looking main building. Before this case I thought it was completely abandoned. However I drove through it over the summer and it is a beehive of activity.

The main scary building is actually in use as are several surrounding buildings.

The grounds though have an abandoned feeling. The roads are not maintained so they are in bad shape. There is zero landscaping and everything is overgrown weeds and trees, adding to the abandoned feeling. Some parts of the property are fenced off with chain link fencing. There doesn't appear to be any reason why except more overgrown weeds on the other side of the fence.

I went there with one of my kids and you would have thought I was driving straight into a horror movie judging by the reaction next to me. I was asked if the building was ever used to film a movie and I didn't and still don't know. I was also asked to stop the car so that pictures could be taken for Instagram.

 

[hot cawfeee]

Is Pilgrim Hospital being torn down for condos or assisted living?????
And I think its a big you tube thing----kids and adults do urban climbing or some such and tape it and post it.

 

[ElizaAvalon]

Is Pilgrim Hospital being torn down for condos or assisted living?????
And I think its a big you tube thing----kids and adults do urban climbing or some such and tape it and post it.

I think I heard that they were redeveloping the property and maybe that's why I thought it was abandoned. No time time to research it right now.

 

[Curious Cathy]

I think the story needs to be on national TV so if he is in another state, someone can identify him because he was on TV. That seat being pulled forward is the only clue here because I think it was a slip up on someone's part. I would never question his taking off if I thought he parked his car at that train station. Force Ten theorizes a "Breaking Point" and I also think something gave way.

What if he stormed out of the house? Then, after finding his car at the place he stormed off to, someone who had a spare key, planted his car at the Deer Park Train Station and reported him missing to fix his you know what so he is embarrased to come back? At that point he just decided to stay gone.

 

[talula]

Anybody know how the seats on a GTO like RM's work? For instance, some seats if you hit the button on the side of the seat back to tilt it forward, the whole seat slides forward. In my truck, when you take the key out of the ignition, the seat automatically slides all the way back.

I wonder if the seat was adjusted forward or if the seat back was also tilted toward the steering wheel.

Does any of that make sense?

Hi,

The seats are electronically adjustable with a switch on the lower left. And from what I hear from someone who has the same car, they take longer than some cars to adjust. Very slow motion.

 

[windstorm]

Hi,

The seats are electronically adjustable with a switch on the lower left. And from what I hear from someone who has the same car, they take longer than some cars to adjust. Very slow motion.

Thanks Talula. So we do know for sure they were electronic seats and not manual?

 

[windstorm]

What if he stormed out of the house? Then, after finding his car at the place he stormed off to, someone who had a spare key, planted his car at the Deer Park Train Station and reported him missing to fix his you know what so he is embarrased to come back? At that point he just decided to stay gone.

I don't think just plain embarrassment would keep him away this long knowing there is an investigation going on, etc.

Now, he could have stormed off with the intention of staying gone and just has never looked back. But, I have a hard time with thinking he's angry and pouting off somewhere and just too stubborn to come home.

IMO

 

[BabylonGirl]

Thanks Talula. So we do know for sure they were electronic seats and not manual?

This is from Car and Drivers Road Test Review of the car from 2004


As sparse as it is of optional luxuries, the GTO's cockpit welcomes patrons with leather seating for four adults, detailed with elegant French seams and embroidered GTO logos. "The best seats in any GM product ever" were compliments regularly heard about the deeply bolstered, lumbar adjustable power front buckets. Put to the endurance test during a nonstop, 29-hour beeline to Las Vegas (see "Fear and Losing Near Las Vegas," page 60), the GTO's seats left backs feeling free of fatigue, tailbones coddled, and spinal nerves unruffled.

Other GM cars that fit that description? Um, we're thinking...

The individual rear seats are ergonomically sculpted and scalloped like the fronts. Heads and elbows in the rear get plenty of stretch space. The front seats sprout a manual-release handle that flips the seatback forward, but only just past vertical. Then a separate button must be held while the front seat motors forward and back with the alacrity of a garden slug. More than a few passengers preferred to wriggle into and out of the rear like escape artists rather than wait for the seats to release them.

BBM

 

[Trackergd]

Good morning all------my first cup is kicking in so I have questions at the ready.
I've been thinking alot about dogs and scents.
Since we are at the 3 month mark and evidence, scents can change I wondered if different dogs and/or procedures are used now. Or if its useless to use scent dogs and perhaps its time for cadaver dogs.
Another question---should different clothing be used now for scenting? Are jeans not best for the dogs to smell and a t-shirt is better or undershirt b/c its closer to the skin?
We didn't know what was first given to the dogs--maybe there is better clothing.
Have the dogs been to the house at all??? In the garage, on the grounds, in the home?
Maybe THE CAR is being held to maintain scent????

It is my opinion that all but cadaver dogs would be useless at this point in time. An "air scent" dog may hit on decomposing remains if it has been trained to.

 

[windstorm]

This is from Car and Drivers Road Test Review of the car from 2004


As sparse as it is of optional luxuries, the GTO's cockpit welcomes patrons with leather seating for four adults, detailed with elegant French seams and embroidered GTO logos. "The best seats in any GM product ever" were compliments regularly heard about the deeply bolstered, lumbar adjustable power front buckets. Put to the endurance test during a nonstop, 29-hour beeline to Las Vegas (see "Fear and Losing Near Las Vegas," page 60), the GTO's seats left backs feeling free of fatigue, tailbones coddled, and spinal nerves unruffled.

Other GM cars that fit that description? Um, we're thinking...

The individual rear seats are ergonomically sculpted and scalloped like the fronts. Heads and elbows in the rear get plenty of stretch space. The front seats sprout a manual-release handle that flips the seatback forward, but only just past vertical. Then a separate button must be held while the front seat motors forward and back with the alacrity of a garden slug. More than a few passengers preferred to wriggle into and out of the rear like escape artists rather than wait for the seats to release them.

BBM

Okay, so that takes care of that. Thanks! Seat had to be moved forward with the electronic button.

Which puts us back to 1) retrieving something out of the back seat/floorboard or 2) somebody shorter than RM drove the car.

 

[xheraldina]

Okay, so that takes care of that. Thanks! Seat had to be moved forward with the electronic button.

Which puts us back to 1) retrieving something out of the back seat/floorboard or 2) somebody shorter than RM drove the car.

BBM
If somebody shorter than RM drove the car that can be proven by mirrors if they have been adjusted too.