Found Safe NY - Samantha "Denise" Primus 47, Deaf, Mute, Devel Delayed, STILL MISSING, was found but hosp released bef family arrived, Queens, 24 Dec 2022

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This is really sad. She went missing from her sister's house in Nassau County on Dec 23. A paramedic found her in need of help 3 miles away in Queens and took her to Queens Hospital. Afterwards, the paramedic saw a missing flyer and notified Nassau police she had been found. In the meantime, the hospital thought she was homeless, gave her a list of addresses of shelters and released her at 2:00am. She is not able to read and is deaf and mute. The hospital didn't make phone calls to see if she was missing. Nassau police notified her sister that she had been found and taken to the hospital, but when her family arrived at the hospital she had already been released.

Following video is an interview with her sister.



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NYPD officials said Primus wound up being discharged from the hospital on Saturday just before 2 a.m.

According to the family, hospital staff thought she was homeless and gave directions to local shelters.

"They though she was homeless, so they gave her a list of shelters to go to," Peck said. "Someone that's non-verbal. She cannot read. I mean she cannot read, she's not verbal, she doesn't know how to navigate the system. The buses or public transportation. How could you send her away?"

Primus hasn't been seen since.

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She says all of this could have been avoided if the hospital had made some phone calls to confirm the same woman had been reported missing in Nassau County.

"They were trying to backpedal to say, well the date of birth is different," Peck said. "We had a non-verbal mute with the same description but the only thig that differs is the date of birth. We said she could not have given you the date of birth, she doesn't know her date of birth."
 
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This is really sad. She went missing from her sister's house in Nassau County on Dec 23. A paramedic found her in need of help 3 miles away in Queens and took her to Queens Hospital. Afterwards, the paramedic saw a missing flyer and notified Nassau police she had been found. In the meantime, the hospital thought she was homeless, gave her a list of addresses of shelters and released her at 2:00am. She is not able to read and is deaf and mute. The hospital didn't make phone calls to see if she was missing. Nassau police notified her sister that she had been found and taken to the hospital, but when her family arrived at the hospital she had already been released.

Following video is an interview with her sister.



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NYPD officials said Primus wound up being discharged from the hospital on Saturday just before 2 a.m.

According to the family, hospital staff thought she was homeless and gave directions to local shelters.

"They though she was homeless, so they gave her a list of shelters to go to," Peck said. "Someone that's non-verbal. She cannot read. I mean she cannot read, she's not verbal, she doesn't know how to navigate the system. The buses or public transportation. How could you send her away?"

Primus hasn't been seen since.

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She says all of this could have been avoided if the hospital had made some phone calls to confirm the same woman had been reported missing in Nassau County.

"They were trying to backpedal to say, well the date of birth is different," Peck said. "We had a non-verbal mute with the same description but the only thig that differs is the date of birth. We said she could not have given you the date of birth, she doesn't know her date of birth."
Couldn't the hospital receive the missing persons reports. I mean, we're asking more and more of LE, can't the hospitals have a program that cross-checks the reports? This is awful!
 
Couldn't the hospital receive the missing persons reports. I mean, we're asking more and more of LE, can't the hospitals have a program that cross-checks the reports? This is awful!

It is awful! According to the article, the hospital knew that there was a missing person report for a "non-verbal mute," but "the birthdate didn't match." Of course that makes no sense because there is no way she could have given them a birthdate.
 
How has the weather been in NYC this week? Did they give her a printed out list of shelters from a social worker or did someone jot random shelters down from memory? Anywhere else she may have gone that she was familiar with, like the library or a school she has previously attended? The hospital's story sounds fishy. How do they turn out a Deaf, non-verbal autistic person at 2 AM?
 
How has the weather been in NYC this week? Did they give her a printed out list of shelters from a social worker or did someone jot random shelters down from memory? Anywhere else she may have gone that she was familiar with, like the library or a school she has previously attended? The hospital's story sounds fishy. How do they turn out a Deaf, non-verbal autistic person at 2 AM?

I imagine that the hospital probably has a printed list of shelters that they routinely give to homeless people. That they would give it to a person with her disabilities is unbelievable -- and at 2:00am no less!

She is not familiar with Queens. She lived with her mother in Brooklyn and was spending several days with her sister in Nassau County. When she went missing from her sister's house, her sister speculated that she might be trying to go back to her home in Brooklyn. Without being familiar with the area, she walked 3-1/2 miles and ended up in the neighborhood in Queens where she was found.

This is a link for an article that was published when she went missing from her sister's house on Dec 23. At that time she was reported missing from Nassau County. She is now reported missing with NYC police.


We had a thread for her when she went missing from Nassau County on the 23rd, but when the Nassau Police posted she had been found the thread was deleted.
 
JAN 2

ELMONT, NY (PIX11) — The older sister of Samantha Denise Primus, who is deaf, non-verbal and autistic, couldn’t believe that Primus was found in a cold, soaking rain on Dec. 23, taken to Queens Hospital Center, and then discharged into the dead of night in the early hours of Christmas Eve.

“As per the hospital, she was discharged at 2 o’clock in the morning on Christmas Eve,” the missing woman’s sister, Joanna Peck, told PIX11 News. “You’re telling me you gave her a list of shelters to go to?”

Primus, 46, has not been seen since.

More at Deaf, autistic woman vanished after Queens ER discharge
 
How has the weather been in NYC this week? Did they give her a printed out list of shelters from a social worker or did someone jot random shelters down from memory? Anywhere else she may have gone that she was familiar with, like the library or a school she has previously attended? The hospital's story sounds fishy. How do they turn out a Deaf, non-verbal autistic person at 2 AM?
This is incredibly sad and so irresponsible. This is a non-profit hospital in NYC and they should have staff and social workers available to handle this poor woman’s situation. They didn’t want to admit her, so they turned her out, assuming if she was homeless she could figure it out. I’ve worked in both county (non-profit) and for-profit hospitals and the ethical ones don’t send people out at 2:00 a.m. A small for-profit hospital in the suburbs released an elderly woman with dementia here (Vegas) in winter last year and she died of exposure. It’s unconscionable. No one should ever fall through the cracks like this, imo.

Even discharging at 10:00 a.m. would mean better weather and more people around on the streets to see her and help her. But let me repeat: no hospital should ever allow this to happen. No discharge plan means you MUST admit her and take care of her! Jmo
 
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There was recently a story where two unhoused individuals took care of a disabled 17 year old while he was missing because they saw him and noticed he needed help. Hopefully something similar is happening with Denise.
 

BEDFORD-STUYVESANT, Brooklyn (PIX11) — The family of a missing deaf woman who disappeared before Christmas moved their search into Brooklyn after a reported sighting.

“It’s 17 days today,” Genevieve Primus, the sister of 46-year-old Samantha Denise Primus, who goes by Denise, said Monday. “She must be delusional by now. No food, no water. Last night was so cold.”

A nanny who works in Bedford-Stuyvesant was reportedly at a bodega near the corner of Gates and Nostrand Avenues several days ago and said a woman rushed in, saying she had seen the missing Primus the day before.


The sighting was posted on a Nanny Facebook page and Genevieve Primus heard about it. Police took the sister to the bodega, and a worker reported he’d seen the missing woman, as well.

“She was mumbling something,” the worker reportedly told Genevieve Primus about her sister. “If she’s lost, I can see her walking and mumbling,” Primus said.

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The bodega worker said Primus left the store and started walking in the direction of Williamsburg.

A team of family members started posting new flyers and checking platforms at train stations between Bedford-Stuyvesant and Williamsburg.


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JAN 13

The distraught family of a missing 46-year-old deaf, mute and autistic woman says loved ones are “going through hell” since she was last seen three weeks ago.

Samantha Primus — originally of St. Lucia — has been missing since Christmas Eve, when Queens Hospital Center released her with a list of homeless shelters, her family claims.

“I am afraid,” sister Juliana Primus, 58, told The Post on Thursday, noting Friday “will be three weeks since that occurred. We have been going through hell.”

More at Family of missing deaf, mute woman Samantha Primus ‘going through hell’
 
JAN 14

Her family has been searching for her ever since, now organizing a large search party on Sunday to look in neighborhoods in the Bronx, Brooklyn, and Queens.

The family says they have a hunch that Denise, who doesn't have money or know how to use public transit, might be riding the subway. Recently, a person said they might have seen her on the F train in Rockefeller Center.

 
Samantha has been found alive!

The missing woman’s ecstatic sister, Sophia Primus, confirmed that relatives found the 46-year-old on a train on Saturday afternoon.

“We found her. We did get a lead from a caller two days ago that they had spotted her on the number one train, so we said that we were going to intensify our search on that line,” Sophia Primus told St Lucia Times.

“My sister and two of her friends this morning left very early and lo and behold, they found her on the train,” Sophia recalled.

Sophia said family members were at the time on their way to the hospital so that Samantha could get a general evaluation.

 
Samantha has been found alive!

The missing woman’s ecstatic sister, Sophia Primus, confirmed that relatives found the 46-year-old on a train on Saturday afternoon.

“We found her. We did get a lead from a caller two days ago that they had spotted her on the number one train, so we said that we were going to intensify our search on that line,” Sophia Primus told St Lucia Times.

“My sister and two of her friends this morning left very early and lo and behold, they found her on the train,” Sophia recalled.

Sophia said family members were at the time on their way to the hospital so that Samantha could get a general evaluation.

Such wonderful news that Denise was located! I can’t imagine what Denise and her family must have gone through over the last few weeks and I hope she is OK. I am not typically litigious but I truly hope the hospital takes responsibility for their actions or inaction. Talk about a clear breach of duty.
 

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