NY - Search for escaped convicted killers, David Sweat & Richard Matt, Dannemora #1

[GGE]

Aaakkkk, so basically they still have no idea?!!!

I think that's the least speculative statement anyone can make right now, actually .. "basically they still have no idea"

 

[Elley Mae]

Police focus search for two escaped prisoners in Cadyville

http://www.wptz.com/news/police-focus-search-for-two-escaped-prisoners-in-cadyville/33521376

Residents in Cadyville, NY, told to stay in their homes as police search for escaped inmates - @WPTZ

http://www.breakingnews.com/item/2015/06/11/residents-in-cadyville-ny-told-to-stay-in-their/

 

[Elley Mae]

IMO it means the cabbie wants his 15 seconds of fame and nothing more. JMO they're not in PA.

My first thought was the cabby was an ex con. jmo idk

 

[GGE]

Thank you.

This sounds credible. LE could suspect a leg injury a couple of different ways. If a witness noticed them, the witness may have seen 1 of them limping as they ran off.

I could see where 1 of them could get leg injury if they were running through woods and 1 of them took a tumble.

I think this Cadyville report may be credible around there.
I have wondered if they have not made it too far without the ride.


http://www.vosizneias.com/205900/20...ay-shut-down-amid-search-for-escaped-killers/

If theyre seriously within a few miles of the prison still and one has an injured leg that is too much of acoincidnce. That is the EXACT SAME scenario as those two Timothy Vail and Timothy ?? escapees from the NY prison escape that was most recent prior to this one. I posted an article yesterday here with quotes of Vail remarking on this new breakout, saying how they copied everything he did, and his only regret was breaking his ankle during the breakout and having to stay within a few miles of the prison, then trying to get to a town nearby where they were caught. This would be just one more exact similarity which would be very very strange indeed!

 

[TripleA]

Okay - so the full story (RUMOR) that I just heard is that they were spotted by a Forest Ranger. One took off running full speed and the other ran off limping. My friend's family member is on the prison CERT team and was called in to this location.

 

[Hatfield]

If the Cadyville report pans out then it means they are still on foot without a ride. Because it is basically only 5 miles.

It also means they are getting miserable. They have had to sleep most likely outdoors with bugs and damp ground, little to no food and no shelter.
Sometimes the more miserable they would get they may get discouraged and take drastic action.

If they are there, this is about the time something is going to happen. If they have split up, then it could just be 1 of them too.

If this is them, LE needs to be ready for a carjacking or home invasion. Or lets hope they just surrender because they are miserable.

 

[cpaul]

Okay - so the full story (RUMOR) that I just heard is that they were spotted by a Forest Ranger. One took off running full speed and the other ran off limping. My friend's family member is on the prison CERT team and was called in to this location.

Sweat is supposed to have a very bad back.

 

[Hatfield]

If they are there,
I am really surprised they are still together but I can see it possible too. 1 guy would be like
"Dude, please don't leave me. I have no idea WTH to do"

The other guy may be feeling sorry for him and trying to help him out.

 

[Mountaingazer]

Okay - so the full story (RUMOR) that I just heard is that they were spotted by a Forest Ranger. One took off running full speed and the other ran off limping. My friend's family member is on the prison CERT team and was called in to this location.

I had an overflowing toilet early this morning at the complex I manage. Happened to run into one of my tenants who is VSP as he was coming off his shift. He didn't give details but confirmed it was a sighting by a very credible source and that their scent had been picked up by dogs where the sighting was reported. He was very confident that they are cornered.

 

[Bravo]

Hi Bravo!!

Hey you :wave:

 

[Greater Than]

tried to add this quote to my most recent post with article link but this website isnt' letting me edit posts lately, it just shows a grey box and a "reason for editing" field but nothing else.

"But authorities expanded the search after investigators learned that the inmates had talked before last weekend's breakout about going to neighboring Vermont."

I hadn't read before exactly what made them think they would go to VT. So that's why.

http://7online.com/news/manhunt-intensifies-for-2-escaped-killers/776751/

If none of their fellow inmates are talking, who told LE these two discussed Vermont? It's gotta be the prison tailor.

 

[CocoChanel]

If none of their fellow inmates are talking, who told LE these two discussed Vermont? It's gotta be the prison tailor.

I would hope and expect no matter if any of their fellow inmates DID talk, the official statement would/should be that all of them have remain tight-lipped on any info they have. Don't want to throw any of them that helped LE under the bus. I support this if accurate. There SHOULD be some sort of positive reinforcement for doing the right thing, and if misleading the general public by saying no one talked is part of it, so be it IMHO. I do not need to know, just want them caught.

 

[Mountaingazer]

If none of their fellow inmates are talking, who told LE these two discussed Vermont? It's gotta be the prison tailor.

Her son is also a member of the Vermont Air National Guard, so she might have suggested places to hide in VT that she was familiar with.

 

[Nana]

At this point I just want them caught and brought in walking or pine box is ok with me.
JMO

 

[CARIIS]

you know what guys , i think we may have the scenario wrong. In pondering, the woman in the tailor shop husband works there also. The son made refereance to "threats". I think "staff" may have been the ones who did the cutting in the underground areas. I dont think they have private bathrooms, those places are filthy. I cant imagine guards, for over a month, not noticing that each AM the boys have somehow gotten filthy!

Besides gruesome murder, i dont know what there skill sets are (and this just be my personal relationship with power tools - not good!) but the cutting is pretty perfect. I dont know how long blades last cutting through steel etc (ie need replacement) .

It has been widely reported that there is consturction going on in there, so "staff" walking around in the crawlways etc with big tools would not be questioned.

I think all they may have done is the cardboard, the dummies, wake up and crawl and run

only my notions

 

[CARIIS]

forgot, on the post note angle, anyone know if in that cartoon show if there was some racial angle to the story. Cause the post it has been described as derogatory in terms of race - anyone know?? TIA

 

[Nana]

you know what guys , i think we may have the scenario wrong. In pondering, the woman in the tailor shop husband works there also. The son made refereance to "threats". I think "staff" may have been the ones who did the cutting in the underground areas. I dont think they have private bathrooms, those places are filthy. I cant imagine guards, for over a month, not noticing that each AM the boys have somehow gotten filthy!

Besides gruesome murder, i dont know what there skill sets are (and this just be my personal relationship with power tools - not good!) but the cutting is pretty perfect. I dont know how long blades last cutting through steel etc (ie need replacement) .

It has been widely reported that there is consturction going on in there, so "staff" walking around in the crawlways etc with big tools would not be questioned.

I think all they may have done is the cardboard, the dummies, wake up and crawl and run

only my notions

I agree.
I also wonder if there were any women on the construction crew, or if there were any women guards that left the prison lately.

 

[TripleA]

forgot, on the post note angle, anyone know if in that cartoon show if there was some racial angle to the story. Cause the post it has been described as derogatory in terms of race - anyone know?? TIA

I think that it was just a smile face type that someone (not sure who drew it) knew how to draw. I remember going through many phases of drawing different doodles. I have seen them drawn that way before. I doubt that there was any racial meaning. People can find racism in everything and anything - even when there is no malicious intent. JMO

 

[epiphany]

VT Gov in brief interview that was shown this morning said that his understanding was there had been some talk about taking a boat to VT.

Appears that they are still in NY though. Wonder where civilian employee (IF reports are true) was going to drop them off then?

 

[CARIIS]

ok, just found his position: Lyle Mitchell also works at the Clinton County facility as an industrial training supervisor. I would assume an industrial training supervisor might be seen walking around with power tools, would have acess to off limits areas within the facility. In addition, in a superviosory role, it would make sense that others might not "question" what he was doing.

I was very struck, instnatly, with the sons statement as far as how improtant family is, and threats etc - so there has to be more to this angle - I think the son messed up!