NY NY - Sylvia Lwowski, 22, Staten Island, 6 Sept 1975 - #1

[MMQC]

Where are you getting this information? You need to link up if you are not a verified insider. :tyou:

trying still no response to PM sent to Admin. Please send me a PM to link to and I will send request again. Navagation of this site is still new to me. Trying my best.

 

[MMQC]

Do you have any idea why Eva would have described SL to police as "depressed"? Did she have any kind of medical history that would support that? Or did LE perhaps bait her with that question?

I agree Deerhunter! LE prompted her with that or they speculated as such and put it on PR.

 

[rosemadderlake]

Charles came over to the residents around 5pm to see a movie Sylvia at a cinema about 20 min away. The theater was were Crazy Eddies was off Richmond Ave just south off the Staten Island Mall. Charles returned to the house approx. 10:30 stating that during an argument Sylvia had thrown her glasses against the dash board of the car and ran off. Eva Lwowski called the 122pct and tried to report a missing person but could not because see wasn't missing for 24 hrs. yet. Eva then got in the car and drove around the Staten Island Mall, but didn’t see her. A close family friend had also taken a ride around the Mall to look, but saw nothing. The following day, Eva went to 122 pct to make a formal missing persons report and the police basically said she was over 21 and didn’t really spend to much time or resources in locating her. A week or two later the family hired a privet investigator and am not sure of the outcome of that investigation except a different version of her running off came out. Charles first said that at a stop sign, in the heat of an argument, she fled the car. The P I's version was that during a traffic jam, she then fled the car. The days and weeks following her disappearance, Charles wouldn't answer and more questions concerning Sylvia.

I am gathering he (BF/F Fiance) had no further contact with anyone afterwards? No phone calls? No concern? That would be significant I think.

In speculation - Because, ok, you have a big fight with your fiance and he didn't say they broke it off or anything. Right? I would think he would be very concerned about her well being after he "cooled off". I mean, they were engaged to be married.

The other thought I have on his silence - is he may have gotten legal advice after she disappeared. IMO (in my opinion).

 

[MMQC]

MMQC - IMO It is clear to me you are Sylvia's long standing best girl friend - are you becoming verified? Or, in the process? --Just curious.

Trying to become verified but as yet have not received a return PM to confirm.

 

[Kimster]

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[MMQC]

Ok, so it was not a zippy thing getting off the island at 10pm on a Saturday night, by bus.

I guess I speculate (perhaps wildly), taking everything at face value, could she have called another friend? You mentioned an ice cream place, were there any other late night establishments around? Could she have called someone to pick her up? A male friend? I remember the nights in shining armor of my youth who would try and facilitate a trip to the moon and back for a damsel in distress? She may not have told anyone of this night in shining armor if she were unhappy in her relationship???

Can't say about any Knight in shinin armor.. Not as close to her Wagner friends as I would have liked to have been. City college much different than pvt. college. Most city college students worked as I did.

 

[MMQC]

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OK I will send to that link again, thanks for responding so fast.

 

[ASWDeerHunter]

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/documents/download/963

 

[rosemadderlake]

Trying to become verified but as yet have not received a return PM to confirm.

MMQC -We will wait!!! It has been good to open up the conversation, today.

Websleuths is really great in its structure - It is really what sets it apart as a forum...

 

[GoingByMyGut]

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/documents/download/963

Thanks for that, ASWDeerHunter. I think it's the same one we have? Was there something specific you wanted to point out about it? You know, one of the "missing" sites, lists two links to western PA newspapers on Sylvia's page as "sources." Do you have any idea why? I was wondering if maybe the engagement notice was published out that way for the benefit of relatives?

 

[rosemadderlake]

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/documents/download/963

Yes, we have poured over this Police Report document. Things like "Will Not Handle" stand out. --Wondering what else is in the file? Like, any interviews and any follow-up.

 

[MMQC]

I am gathering he (BF/F Fiance) had no further contact with anyone afterwards? No phone calls? No concern? That would be significant I think.

In speculation - Because, ok, you have a big fight with your fiance and he didn't say they broke it off or anything. Right? I would think he would be very concerned about her well being after he "cooled off". I mean, they were engaged to be married.

The other thought I have on his silence - is he may have gotten legal advice after she disappeared. IMO (in my opinion).

Never thought of that about legal advice after disappearance

 

[epiphany]

Thanks for that, ASWDeerHunter. I think it's the same one we have? Was there something specific you wanted to point out about it? You know, one of the "missing" sites, lists two links to western PA newspapers on Sylvia's page as "sources." Do you have any idea why? I was wondering if maybe the engagement notice was published out that way for the benefit of relatives?

Charley Project sources both The Altoona Mirror and The Bedford Gazette at link below:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lwowski_sylvia.html

 

[MMQC]

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[GoingByMyGut]

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I think it says that at the bottom of everyone's thread page. I think it's the specs of the thread? For example, when the thread closes, some of those things would change, like replies being allowed. Not 100% sure though.

 

[Odyssey]

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It's telling you what you're allowed to do on the forum...

It's useful for determining if you're still logged in, as WS logs you out after you've been inactive for a few minutes.

 

[Odyssey]

I am going to hold off on asking any more specific questions until M is verified, but based on the consensus of her we have so far (not believed to be depressed), do you guys think suicide can be eliminated as a reasonable theory?

 

[epiphany]

It's telling you what you're allowed to do on the forum...

It's useful for determining if you're still logged in, as WS logs you out after you've been inactive for a few minutes.

You can remain logged in (and won't get booted off) even if u are inactive by clicking/checking on the Remember Me? box. It's to the right of the log in info (UN and PW).

This should also prevent the loss of post as one is composing.

 

[Jmoose]

am I wrong is GE not the short form for Germany

I think it might be the abbreviation for Germany, yes.

 

[rosemadderlake]

Originally Posted by epiphany View Post
Had a date or an approximate date been set for her wedding?

No date to my knowledge.

How long were they engaged? I remember reading 18-24 months?

What was her engagement ring like?