NY NY - Sylvia Lwowski, 22, Staten Island, 6 Sept 1975 - #4

[rosemadderlake]

Maybe some have read this already, but if not I thought it good to post to SL's thread. -I found this very informative re: UIDs along with some eye opening stats. It was posted by Carlk90245 and the PDF was sent to him by David Van Norman, Deputy Coroner Investigator of the San Bernadino Sheriff Department - Coroner Division. This is one impassioned coroner when it comes to the unidentified. (imo)

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...family-member-must-know&p=4692685#post4692685

-I 'copied the link location' of post #1 on A bigger picture - What every MP investigator/family member must know thread in How to reference forum. Let's see if it works!

 

[rosemadderlake]

Posting a couple other items I read recently on the unidentified...

When looking to compare a UID photo, or forensic sketch, especially when there are similarities, turn the photos upside down for another comparison. (takes the personal out of the photos) This is actually a composition technique, too. Sometimes looking at an image in reverse, in the mirror, will reveal things not noticed or seen otherwise.

Even though having x-rays/charting of the MP is ideal, Forensic Dentists can make many determinations from smiling photographs when there are no x-rays/records. This is where Sylvia stands out with perfect teeth. X-rays have a shelf life - to preserve them they need to be frozen.


Washington State Dental Association lists HIPPA and general guidelines on records.

Both the state and federal governments have laws on healthcare record retention, but the federal law supersedes the state law. The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) requires that all dental records be kept for at least six years after the patient’s last visit.

Although the law only requires patients’ records be retained for six years, some liability experts recommend that dentist keep records longer. A rule of thumb that is commonly used is the “6-10-21 years” rule, which suggests that dentists keep patients records at the following durations: six years after the death of a patient, 10 years after a patient’s last appointment if you are no longer their dentist, and 21 years from the date of a patient’s birth if you stop seeing that patient when they’re still a minor.

http://www.wsda.org/regulatory-faq/...offices-required-to-keep-patients-record.html

 

[Odyssey]

Just popping in quickly to say that I heard back from the SI historical society. They have the directory from 1975 and are snail mailing me the copies of the PI's. I will scan and post them once I get them.

 

[Pink Panther]

Has it been mentioned here that there is a Sylvia A Lwowski listing (US Public Index - 1935 - 1993) on ancestry?

Her same birthday is listed and the addresses shown are:

63 Goodall St, Staten Island, NY, 10308-3325
94 Whittier Dr, Kings Park, NY, 11754-2340

 

[GoingByMyGut]

Has it been mentioned here that there is a Sylvia A Lwowski listing (US Public Index - 1935 - 1993) on ancestry?

Hi, PP. Welcome to the thread. :welcome6:

I deleted part of your post from the quote bc it was all HTML. I think WS may block you from posting records directly from Ancestry because it's a paid membership site, but I'm not sure.

The only thing found/discussed is a record that shows a DOB for SL and links her to her family's address. IOW, no family tree. A few other family records have been found and discussed, too, like immigration records, census data, and a military service record for JL, Sr. (SL's father), and the family he was born into/raised in. I think another shows EL's DOB and DOD. Nothing meatier.

 

[rosemadderlake]

Posting the recent B&W pictures of Sylvia - with minimal basic editing & cropping.

 

[rosemadderlake]

And posting the color photos with minimal basic color corrections. (taking the 70's red tinge down a notch)
Sylvia has green hazel eyes. (imo)

 

[alliemay]

Nice work Rose!!

 

[Odyssey]

I just noticed something I would like opinions on.

I was reading about this missing person, Gail Katz-Bierenbaum, missing since 1985. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/katz-bierenbaum_gail.html

The fifth paragraph mentions a body washing up on Staten Island in 1989. At the time they thought it was Gail's remains, enough so that they closed Gail's MP case. In 1997 they did a DNA test and it turned out not to be a match, so the case was reopened.

Looking on NamUs, the only UID I see on Staten Island from 1989 is this one https://identifyus.org/en/cases/6955 and it says the interval is 'days', meaning the UID had died only days before she was found.

Do you think they would have thought this one was Gail, even though she'd been presumed dead for 4 years by that time?

Or could there have been another UID that we don't know about?

 

[GoingByMyGut]

Have you guys seen anything on this case? Case colder than SL's -- and quite far-reaching.

 

[epiphany]

Wagner College scores high marks in annual Princeton Review survey of top colleges

This was the first time the Wagnerian, Wagner College's student newspaper, appeared on the Princeton Review's list of the top 20 college newspapers in the country. First published in 1934, the Wagnerian is marking its 80th anniversary this fall.

Other schools appearing on this year's list of top newspapers include Yale, Syracuse, Cornell, UCLA, Penn State, UNC-Chapel Hill, Howard and Dartmouth.

http://www.silive.com/northshore/index.ssf/2014/08/wagner_college_scores_high_mar.html

 

[epiphany]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Island-6-Sept-1975-4&p=10610828#post10610828

When I posted this UIP in early June, NamUs had not posted the reconstruction images from the Troopers NY and Doe Site on this Hunter, NY UIP (link above).

I see that the old reconstruction images have been added now to this NamUs UIP!

Date last modified July 28, 2014. Circumstances still unknown.

Also, I noticed the number of exclusions had moved to 99 from my last post (98 excluded).

I held my breath for a second...one more excluded, but it wasn't Sylvia.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Island-6-Sept-1975-4&p=10611498#post10611498

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/9803

Rose sent a note...we should be hearing soon if they can rule out Sylvia or not.

 

[Pink Panther]

I've spent a few hours reading here now. I haven't been part of the long-ongoing discussions. That could be bad or good. However which way one chooses to see it. These are my thoughts. Sylvia was absolutely beautiful. "Movie-star" quality beauty! And smart and talented!

Why did the family "lie so low' after her disappearance? It doesn't make any sense. The only thing that I can surmise is that perhaps there was something in their own history that they felt would jeopardize them. (Not necessarily anything nefarious but something that frightened them about being "public".) Why is Eva (the mother) the only one ever mentioned with regard to the search for her daughter? Why was the father not mentioned? Something is definitely off and strange about that. I don't mean to suggest anything regarding the family's involvement in Sylvia's disappearance but perhaps, something else was going on/had happened that made them all scared to be highlighted in some way?

The boyfriend? The "fiancee"? What an astounding jerk. Not a suspect. But definitely a . I don't mean "person of interest"…I mean piece of S. It sounds like he had connections. They stayed away from him. Why?

Why is there STILL NO ACTIVITY on this cold case? It's shameful. One only has to look at the latest photographs of this beautiful woman to understand that a gross miscarriage of justice has occurred here.

Immigrants. Something "borderline"on their part to cause fear for pursuing their loved-one? An upper hand on the part of the boyfriend (somehow "connected" to someone - le or mob), lack of accountability on the part of the "investigators" and Sylvia goes "poof" without anyone remembering that she was a living, breathing human being.

my 2 cents

my opinion only

late to the discussion

 

[GoingByMyGut]

I've spent a few hours reading here now. I haven't been part of the long-ongoing discussions. That could be bad or good. However which way one chooses to see it. These are my thoughts. Sylvia was absolutely beautiful. "Movie-star" quality beauty! And smart and talented!

Why did the family "lie so low' after her disappearance? It doesn't make any sense. The only thing that I can surmise is that perhaps there was something in their own history that they felt would jeopardize them. (Not necessarily anything nefarious but something that frightened them about being "public".) Why is Eva (the mother) the only one ever mentioned with regard to the search for her daughter? Why was the father not mentioned? Something is definitely off and strange about that. I don't mean to suggest anything regarding the family's involvement in Sylvia's disappearance but perhaps, something else was going on/had happened that made them all scared to be highlighted in some way?

The boyfriend? The "fiancee"? What an astounding jerk. Not a suspect. But definitely a . I don't mean "person of interest"…I mean piece of S. It sounds like he had connections. They stayed away from him. Why?

Why is there STILL NO ACTIVITY on this cold case? It's shameful. One only has to look at the latest photographs of this beautiful woman to understand that a gross miscarriage of justice has occurred here.

Immigrants. Something "borderline"on their part to cause fear for pursuing their loved-one? An upper hand on the part of the boyfriend (somehow "connected" to someone - le or mob), lack of accountability on the part of the "investigators" and Sylvia goes "poof" without anyone remembering that she was a living, breathing human being.

my 2 cents

my opinion only

late to the discussion

Hello again, PP

I'm glad you posted. Several of us have been going it alone for so long (it's hard to believe were near the end of our 4th thread) that I sometimes wonder if our "close-knit" status might be daunting to a new poster. I'm glad it didn't stop you. I think all of us appreciate new eyes and ears and welcome your thoughts.

You hit on some things that we speculate about quite a lot and of course have no answers to. I do think you're right to separate things that impacted the search for SL from things that may point to why or how SL disappeared. You have tapped right into the conundrum.

 

[rosemadderlake]

I've spent a few hours reading here now. I haven't been part of the long-ongoing discussions. That could be bad or good. However which way one chooses to see it. These are my thoughts. Sylvia was absolutely beautiful. "Movie-star" quality beauty! And smart and talented!

Why did the family "lie so low' after her disappearance? It doesn't make any sense. The only thing that I can surmise is that perhaps there was something in their own history that they felt would jeopardize them. (Not necessarily anything nefarious but something that frightened them about being "public".) Why is Eva (the mother) the only one ever mentioned with regard to the search for her daughter? Why was the father not mentioned? Something is definitely off and strange about that. I don't mean to suggest anything regarding the family's involvement in Sylvia's disappearance but perhaps, something else was going on/had happened that made them all scared to be highlighted in some way?

The boyfriend? The "fiancee"? What an astounding jerk. Not a suspect. But definitely a . I don't mean "person of interest"…I mean piece of S. It sounds like he had connections. They stayed away from him. Why?

Why is there STILL NO ACTIVITY on this cold case? It's shameful. One only has to look at the latest photographs of this beautiful woman to understand that a gross miscarriage of justice has occurred here.

Immigrants. Something "borderline"on their part to cause fear for pursuing their loved-one? An upper hand on the part of the boyfriend (somehow "connected" to someone - le or mob), lack of accountability on the part of the "investigators" and Sylvia goes "poof" without anyone remembering that she was a living, breathing human being.

my 2 cents

my opinion only

late to the discussion

Bbm: I couldn't agree more. This September Sylvia will be missing for 39 years.

 

[rosemadderlake]

Posting a publicity draft that SL's family (or a private citizen) can to submit to Wagner Alumni Magazine. -Maybe the Wagnerian, too.
http://wagner.edu/wagnermagazine/?cat=11

A variation can be submitted to her 1971 H.S. Class where she is listed.
http://tottenvillehighschoolalumni.com/alumni/4027648/sylvia-lwowski.html

I noticed one can submit edits/corrections to the National Missing Person Directory where the last seen date is not correct. (making a list!)
http://www.missingin.org/reg4106/sylvia_alice_lwowski.htm

And, I think a variation could be emailed to SI Newspaper/Facebook for the anniversary of her disappearance. (imo)

-Thoughts? Corrections? Additions? All input, fresh eyes, are most welcome! I'd sure like to see something published for Sylvia like last year. The latest pictures of her would look great on her classmates page.

 

[epiphany]

Was the last photo taken of Sylvia the one in the green halter dress/top (At article on link below)?

http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/09/38_years_on_brother_of_staten.html

If so, perhaps, might want to switch with one of the two grad photos. Different perspective, different look, less formal, etc.

 

[GoingByMyGut]

Was the last photo taken of Sylvia the one in the green halter dress/top (At article on link below)?

http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/09/38_years_on_brother_of_staten.html

If so, perhaps, might want to switch with one of the two grad photos. Different perspective, different look, less formal, etc.

Very nicely done, Rose. You achieved the goal of "less is more. Here's my :twocents:

(1) I had the same thought as Epiphany (BBM) the the choice of photos -- rather than two from the same session -- as they capture different ways of seeing her.

(2) The phrase "her 40th reunion" tripped me up, as she didn't experience even one reunion, right? Maybe "June 2015 will mark the 40th reunion of her Wagner College graduating class."?

(3) Lots of ways to find info, but no ways to share info? I know that info can be found via the links, but someone may not go that far. Maybe after June 2015 line and before line that begins "For more info," insert:
"If you saw Sylvia on the day she disappeared, or have any information about what may have happened to her, please call ..." (I would end with the direct phone number for Detective Patrick Savage that JMoose has.)

 

[Pink Panther]

I have found something that caught my eye, given the date and locations mentioned:

http://www.silive.com/september-11/index.ssf/2010/09/james_leahy_38_nypd_was_loving.html

"Mr. Leahy's father, Arthur II, a Parks Department employee, was murdered during a burglary in 1975 while he was on a night watch at LaTourette Golf Course."

I have not been able to find any articles relating to this event. That sounds lit a pretty violent and dramatic burglary given that a person lost his life and yet, it doesn't seem to have appeared in any of the papers???

 

[alliemay]

I have found something that caught my eye, given the date and locations mentioned:

http://www.silive.com/september-11/index.ssf/2010/09/james_leahy_38_nypd_was_loving.html

"Mr. Leahy's father, Arthur II, a Parks Department employee, was murdered during a burglary in 1975 while he was on a night watch at LaTourette Golf Course."

I have not been able to find any articles relating to this event. That sounds lit a pretty violent and dramatic burglary given that a person lost his life and yet, it doesn't seem to have appeared in any of the papers???

Thanks for taking an interest in Sylvia's case, just wanted to let you know I have enjoyed your posts on other cases we share interest in.