NY NY - Sylvia Lwowski, 22, Staten Island, 6 Sept 1975 - #4

[GoingByMyGut]

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PINOW

http://www.pinow.com/investigations/missing-persons

“One of the big problems with police-led missing persons searches is simply that the term missing persons is so narrow. Police will only begin looking for a missing child at a specific amount of time after the child was last seen and by that time, it may be too late if the child has been kidnapped by a pedophile or child killer. Police are also reluctant, due to thinning resources, to search for people who voluntarily left home or for those who live on the streets. Even in a police-led missing person search, police will stop looking after a certain amount of time and will declare the case a cold case.

Police do their best with the resources they have, but law enforcement simply is not equipped to deal with the crime rates today. Anyone who wants real answers and fast needs to speak to a private investigator. A professional investigator will start looking for someone as soon as you feel uneasy and will continue to search as long as you are still looking for answers.”

Staten Island, New York Private Investigators
http://www.pinow.com/investigators/new-york/staten-island

BBM1: This confuses me, as we do see LE doing this with some cases, particularly when families insist the MP wouldn't have left on his or her own (which comes back again to the issues of family advocacy and publicity).

BBM2: In the case of SL, I think the simple fact of her being missing from SI/NYC is a magnifying factor for this statement. There could never be enough LE to deal with all the crime in NYC. I feel quite sure their resources are overwhelmed and they must prioritize based on "solvability."

Re the reward though, are there any stats on the value of this? Wouldn't someone with information come forward because it's the right thing to do? Do rewards really motivate people and bring forth worthwhile information?

 

[rosemadderlake]

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BBM1: This confuses me, as we do see LE doing this with some cases, particularly when families insist the MP wouldn't have left on his or her own (which comes back again to the issues of family advocacy and publicity).

BBM2: In the case of SL, I think the simple fact of her being missing from SI/NYC is a magnifying factor for this statement. There could never be enough LE to deal with all the crime in NYC. I feel quite sure their resources are overwhelmed and they must prioritize based on "solvability."

Re the reward though, are there any stats on the value of this? Wouldn't someone with information come forward because it's the right thing to do? Do rewards really motivate people and bring forth worthwhile information?

Bbm -yes, something to think about - because - "it's the right thing to do"... Hard to imagine that money could be the motivator, after 39 years, too. -Imo.

Another thought I wonder, not sure how this works, what about the reward cards they distribute in jails? I think that was mentioned before on the thread....

 

[Odyssey]

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BBM1: This confuses me, as we do see LE doing this with some cases, particularly when families insist the MP wouldn't have left on his or her own (which comes back again to the issues of family advocacy and publicity).

BBM2: In the case of SL, I think the simple fact of her being missing from SI/NYC is a magnifying factor for this statement. There could never be enough LE to deal with all the crime in NYC. I feel quite sure their resources are overwhelmed and they must prioritize based on "solvability."

Re the reward though, are there any stats on the value of this? Wouldn't someone with information come forward because it's the right thing to do? Do rewards really motivate people and bring forth worthwhile information?

I'm not really sure if the money itself is a big factor, but I think there is a psychological benefit in that it conveys that LE really WANTS to hear from people. Plus, a reward typically generates publicity - although that may not be the case here.

I was also thinking it might be a good idea to add a New Jersey paper to the media list. Of my friends that I knew on Staten Island, the majority of them are in NJ now. Some are in upstate NY, a few are in Florida. Only a couple are still on Staten Island.

It would be interesting if we could see how many people have left since 1975. I'd thought about suggesting a billboard ad on a busy street to publicize any reward done without LE's help, but wonder how many people would actually see it.

 

[GoingByMyGut]

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Bbm -yes, something to think about - because - "it's the right thing to do"... Hard to imagine that money could be the motivator, after 39 years, too. -Imo.

Another thought I wonder, not sure how this works, what about the reward cards they distribute in jails? I think that was mentioned before on the thread....

Was it here? I think it might have been the Bill Comeans thread ... I don't recall.

ETA: Yes, BC thread. Here's a link to the post.

 

[Odyssey]

 

[Odyssey]

The edges are kind of hard to read, that's how it is on the paper copy I received as well. I noticed a couple of them have "Missing Persons" in their ads.

I probably won't be back here for a few days, having some computer issues (more info on that here)
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...o-an-Updata-Java-page&p=10872279#post10872279

but I wanted to be sure to get those ads posted. I will try to keep up through my email notifications.

 

[Pink Panther]

I'm sorry. In an earlier post of mine I referred to one of our VI's as "MMBQ" when I meant "MMQC". Sorry if I caused any confusion.

 

[Jmoose]

I noticed some similarities between Sylvia's disappearance and that of Peter Winston in 1978. What appeared to be the same was that Peter also stalked off angrily from the last person to acknowlege seeing him, and disappeared. There was no missing person report found in his case and it wasn't entirely clear if one had been made in 1978-but there definitely wasn't any investigation or search by LE-even though he was a "person-at-risk" because of established mental health issues (was treated at various times with litium etc). And finally, speculated to be buried anonymously on Hart Island.

 

[Pink Panther]

Hoping that someone who knew Sylvia will find this thread and join us!

 

[Jmoose]

What other cases are you guys following, as well as this one? I've been reading the posts on Bob Harrod's thread, among others. He is the 81 year old father of three daughters who disappeared shortly after he married his teenage sweetheart, after each had been widowed-he had just told his children that he was planning to change his will to include his new wife.

 

[Jmoose]

4 days until the 39th anniversary of Sylvia's disappearance.

 

[Odyssey]

What other cases are you guys following, as well as this one? I've been reading the posts on Bob Harrod's thread, among others. He is the 81 year old father of three daughters who disappeared shortly after he married his teenage sweetheart, after each had been widowed-he had just told his children that he was planning to change his will to include his new wife.

I have quite a list... but the ones I'm especially interested in are:
Diane Dye
Rose Cole
Anna Christian Waters
Ida Dean Richardson-Anderson
Farren Stanberry
Melinda Creech
...and Sylvia, of course.

 

[Pink Panther]

Bumping for Sylvia.

 

[Jmoose]

39 years ago today, Sylvia disappeared, and was never seen again.

 

[Jmoose]

On Saturday, I sent an e-mail to Det. Savage, reminding him that it was the 39th anniversary (or would that be-39 years since, and 38th anniversary) of Sylvia's disappearance. I didn't receive a reply, but didn't expect one, either. Just wanted him to know there are still people who want to know what happened to her.

 

[Pink Panther]

Jmoose - Did the Det. ever respond to you? It's so sad that Sylvia still hasn't found home…That no one has ever been made to account for their horrendous actions in her regard. Now or later, they will be held to account. Sylvia was beyond beautiful and so full of life!

moo

 

[Jmoose]

Not this time, but I didn't expect him to. He has the case, and unless one of us has information that he needs, he won't correspond. I just wish it looked like somebody official was interested in Sylvia's disappearance. I also emailed the reporter who did Sylvia's story last year, and didn't hear anything-maybe she'll do something next year, when it's been 40 years since her disappearance.

 

[alliemay]

It's a shame that we don't have all the facts in Sylvia's case. I'd really like to know what their argument was about.

 

[Jmoose]

Me too, Skeet! It would make such a difference to know if their argument was about which movie to see, as opposed to arguing about breaking up, for example.

 

[alliemay]

http://newyorkstatemissingpersons.ning.com/photo/lwowski-sylvia-picture-1974?context=user

I wonder what the SO COMP ATM means on the back of one of the pictures?