OH - Evie the rescue dog beaten to death by prisoners in Ohio prison

[whisperOFwings]

I know I just want to give her a cuddle and a steak I don’t understand how anyone could harm her.

How many men would be sharing a cell? I wonder if it is a He did it, no he did it situation and they are blaming each other. I hope there are cameras.

I agree, please let there be cameras

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Snips:
The State Highway Patrol is investigating the death last month of the dog at Warren Correctional Institution in southwestern Ohio.

The charity said it obtained the dog in 2015 when it had a broken hip from a car accident. Joseph's Legacy had placed about 20 dogs with the prison system over the last year, with four or five currently being fostered until the incident, Melampy said. The charity has pulled all its dogs out.

Following the patrol investigation, the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Correction will conduct its own investigation at Warren Correctional as well as review animal programs at other prisons, Smith said.

"The animal training programs within our facilities have proven to be an effective and meaningful activity for over 20 years, and we have absolutely zero tolerance for any type of abuse of the animals who are part of these programs," Smith said in a statement.

Dog paired with inmate in prison program found dead in cell

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Snip:
Most likely, prison authorities will quickly solve the mystery of who killed Evie. It is likely one inmate, or the other. But that inmate, directly responsible as he may be, is not the only one who deserves some scrutiny.

The state prison system needs to also ask some questions about itself, and the supervision it provided, keeping in mind that it’s not the concept behind the program that is at fault, but shortcomings in administering it.

The outside nonprofit, and the rescue organization that provided the dog, might be well served to take a look at themselves as well.

Who killed Evie: Dog dies while being trained in Ohio prison program - ohmidog!

 

[Laughing]

Possibly inmate(s) killed the dog as a warning to the dog's main handler....

jmho ymmv

 

[neesaki]

Rescue group involved said they won't provide any more dogs for the program and I can't say that I blame them.

Thank God. I suppose the violent monsters are there for a reason. They should never be given the opportunity to harm or kill anyone else, including innocent animals. It’s behond sickening what they did.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Possibly inmate(s) killed the dog as a warning to the dog's main handler....

jmho ymmv

Never though about that. Hmmm. Possibly.

 

[beebosox]

You'd think they were criminals or something.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

You'd think they were criminals or something.

Funny. Welcome to WS.

 

[ClockworkLemon]

The animals have to be kept somewhere, I presume it's left in the cell with the inmates? Otherwise where are the animals going to be kept?

I would assume a kennel, but obviously it.

 

[Tssiemer]

I work at the warren county jail which is the County this prison is in. I am appalled and you better believe I’m sticking my nose where it doesn’t belong to find out more and get justice.

 

[gregjrichards]

I work at the warren county jail which is the County this prison is in. I am appalled and you better believe I’m sticking my nose where it doesn’t belong to find out more and get justice.

Thank you!

 

[MelmothTheLost]

They are criminals and they are there for a reason.

So was Robert Stroud.

Robert Stroud - Wikipedia

This case may come down to the fact that a group of prisoners, rather than a single individual, was involved. Mobs behave differently than individuals. It's also possible that one or more tried but failed to stop the attack on the dog.

 

[MsFacetious]

I don't think it happens often, that's why it is news.

No, it does not happen. This is the first time I've heard of it happening.

The inmates generally bond with the dogs and have a hard time letting them go when it is time. They appreciate the chance to take care of something and bond with something in an environment where neither usually occurs. This is NOT something that typically happens.

I know everybody wants to believe that all inmates are monsters. However, after a few years working in the justice system... I would trust some inmates over certain prosecutors, detectives and guards. There are absolutely bad guys that sit on the "good side" of the law that are FAR scarier to me than most of those inmates.

I hope there is video here. I want zero doubt about who killed Evie. It worries me that we don't already know. I would think 2 weeks would be enough time with video. It was enough time for aggravated murder charges when one inmate killed another. In fact that murder occurred almost the same day and charges came down a few days ago.

I think we should hear about charges soon in Evie's case, if charges are going to come down.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

No, it does not happen. This is the first time I've heard of it happening.

The inmates generally bond with the dogs and have a hard time letting them go when it is time. They appreciate the chance to take care of something and bond with something in an environment where neither usually occurs. This is NOT something that typically happens.

I know everybody wants to believe that all inmates are monsters. However, after a few years working in the justice system... I would trust some inmates over certain prosecutors, detectives and guards. There are absolutely bad guys that sit on the "good side" of the law that are FAR scarier to me than most of those inmates.

I hope there is video here. I want zero doubt about who killed Evie. It worries me that we don't already know. I would think 2 weeks would be enough time with video. It was enough time for aggravated murder charges when one inmate killed another. In fact that murder occurred almost the same day and charges came down a few days ago.

I think we should hear about charges soon in Evie's case, if charges are going to come down.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I worked in Corrections for many years. I supervised a female inmate work crew at the DOC admin bldg and co-supervised the males. I heard all their stories good and bad. I also worked with an all male inmate crew at a state agency administered warehouse for a couple of years. I can’t tell you some of the inspiration I felt during those years. Two special ones I think of often. They both had limbs missing. I just don’t know how to explain it. They were certainly nothing! like the vicious <insert bad word> talked about here. Those inmates talked about here are only an example of the incarcerated. They do sadly exist and whoever was involved or stood by in this little doggie’s murder deserve the cruelest of punishments. They are evil monsters.

 

[gregjrichards]

I work at the warren county jail which is the County this prison is in. I am appalled and you better believe I’m sticking my nose where it doesn’t belong to find out more and get justice.

Are there likely to be cameras covering the cells in this jail Tssiemer? I understand if you are unable to answer.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I work at the warren county jail which is the County this prison is in. I am appalled and you better believe I’m sticking my nose where it doesn’t belong to find out more and get justice.

Atta girl, @Tssiemer give ‘em hell!

 

[MsFacetious]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I worked in Corrections for many years. I supervised a female inmate work crew at the DOC admin bldg and co-supervised the males. I heard all their stories good and bad. I also worked with an all male inmate crew at a state agency administered warehouse for a couple of years. I can’t tell you some of the inspiration I felt during those years. Two special ones I think of often. They both had limbs missing. I just don’t know how to explain it. They were certainly nothing! like the vicious <insert bad word> talked about here. Those inmates talked about here are only an example of the incarcerated. They do sadly exist and whoever was involved or stood by in this little doggie’s murder deserve the cruelest of punishments. They are evil monsters.

In 2 years of visiting defendants in jail; the only times I have feared for my safety, were with the guards.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

In 2 years of visiting defendants in jail; the only times I have feared for my safety, were with the guards.

The only time I was ever angry within the facilities or at the transport busses were when I had to witness how the guards put their shackles and handcuffs on them every day between the export and import process.

eta:I worked with minimum security incarcerated offenders. So my comments are a whole different ballgame than the one this topic covers. Apples and oranges, but they’re still both fruits.

 

[MsFacetious]

The only time I was ever angry within the facilities or at the transport busses were when I had to witness how the guards put their shackles and handcuffs on them every day between the export and import process.

eta:I worked with minimum security incarcerated offenders. So my comments are a whole different ballgame than the one this topic covers. Apples and oranges, but they’re still both fruits.

There are still wrongfully convicted people even in this facility I'm sure. Yes, see HOW the shackle, search, transport is also quite anger inducing. It's unnerving when you are there twice a week and you feel you've developed a rapport with a particular guard.

Then one day you show up and get treated like you are the crap on the bottom of their shoe. It's just bizarre. I'm someone who is more "equal" to them. I don't even want to imagine how they would treat an inmate on one of those days.

I worry that this dog may not have been injured by an inmate. I worry that it won't be on video and it won't be able to be proven. I'm not so sure that cells are recorded, for obvious reasons. If the beating occurred in the cell and there were two inmates in there, then I'm afraid we won't see justice.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

There are still wrongfully convicted people even in this facility I'm sure. Yes, see HOW the shackle, search, transport is also quite anger inducing. It's unnerving when you are there twice a week and you feel you've developed a rapport with a particular guard.

Then one day you show up and get treated like you are the crap on the bottom of their shoe. It's just bizarre. I'm someone who is more "equal" to them. I don't even want to imagine how they would treat an inmate on one of those days.

I worry that this dog may not have been injured by an inmate. I worry that it won't be on video and it won't be able to be proven. I'm not so sure that cells are recorded, for obvious reasons. If the beating occurred in the cell and there were two inmates in there, then I'm afraid we won't see justice.

Oh my... I didn’t even think of anything like that. The cameras usually are in the commons and outside the cells. No, we probably won’t see true justice. If it was an inmate or two. Prison justice will take its course and prevail on its own.