OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #51

[GoBuckeyes]

Sorry, Buckeyes, I had to go back and read the motion written and agreed upon in court April 4. IMO, since this specific document is dated April 4, it only pertains to that date and forward.

Now, IMO, obviously something had occurred prior to this date, in JW's case, to cause this uproar and writing of the document, which IIRC, took hours in Judge's chambers to resolve. IMO, JW realized he had initiated conversation with and voluntarily spilled his guts with another inmate. After which, the document was drawn up April 4. I believe JW's statements before April 4 can and WILL be used against him by the prosecution. Yay for the State...they were one step ahead of him! After April 4, he would have to be totally stupid to have uttered another word. All JMO. Hope that helps.

Jake Wagner waives right to speedy trial, reaches agreement on possible "snitch" testimony

Thanks, @Loomis124. That is encouraging. I hope he was overheard by several people!

 

[Johnny B Bad]

DEFENDANT'S MOTION #23 MOTION TO EXCLUDE ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO OTHER CRIMES, WRONGS OR ACTS FILED Attorney: MEYERS, GREGORY W

Jake is afraid that something bad is going to come out on him! JMO

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Another good motion, did Jake tell something during integration? JMO



DEFENDANT'S MOTION #31 MOTION IN LIMINE TO PROHIBIT THE STATE FROM COMMENTING ON DEFENDANT'S UNSWORN STATEMENT FILED Attorney: MEYERS, GREGORY W

 

[Loomis124]

Thanks, @Loomis124. That is encouraging. I hope he was overheard by several people!

I hope so, too.

 

[Loomis124]

"....there's still a massive cult following..."

Norman Reedus Addresses Possibility of Boondock Saints 3

 

[Loomis124]

DEFENDANT'S MOTION #23 MOTION TO EXCLUDE ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO OTHER CRIMES, WRONGS OR ACTS FILED Attorney: MEYERS, GREGORY W

Jake is afraid that something bad is going to come out on him! JMO

This kind of evidence is allowed if it is used by the prosecution to prove motive, preparation and plan. JMO

Ohio Supreme Court Permits "Character" Evidence per Evid.R. 404(B)

 

[Freddy AD]

Another good motion, did Jake tell something during integration? JMO



DEFENDANT'S MOTION #31 MOTION IN LIMINE TO PROHIBIT THE STATE FROM COMMENTING ON DEFENDANT'S UNSWORN STATEMENT FILED Attorney: MEYERS, GREGORY W

I think he told Chris Graves from the Enquirer one story, then changed it up when he was sworn to tell the truth while being interrogated. I think it matters what he told her because BCI was listening to those conversations. Then when the story switched a little, (or a lot) when interviewed by authorities, they knew he was lying. His lawyers only want the lies he told the investigators to be used in court. They don’t want a jury listening to wiretaps of different lies to a journalist. IMO the W’s have been lying the whole time, about everything. And the investigators and prosecutors know.

 

[sunshineray]

Her attorney better plea bargain, JMO

If her attorney does plea bargain do you think will that mean she becomes a not so hostile witness in the trials against her kin, particularly her grandsons?

 

[Cool Cats]

DEFENDANT'S MOTION #23 MOTION TO EXCLUDE ANY EVIDENCE RELATING TO OTHER CRIMES, WRONGS OR ACTS FILED Attorney: MEYERS, GREGORY W

Jake is afraid that something bad is going to come out on him! JMO

When this Motion was argued in Court at Jake's last hearing, Canepa said Jake was violent towards one of the victims, theft was involved, and there were other things that happened as well.

I hope Deering allows all of this to come out at trial. My opinion is that it's absolutely relevant to show how Jake was treating the victims, it can really show motive and even an escalation of violence.

 

[Cool Cats]

If her attorney does plea bargain do you think will that mean she becomes a not so hostile witness in the trials against her kin, particularly her grandsons?

Angie made it clear to her mom--- don't testify against any of them!

So Rita is between a rock and a hard place. If she cooperates with the prosecution to lessen her charges and sentence, thus helping herself, inevitably she could end up testifying against her family. That could be in her own trial or at theirs.

But if she stays stubborn, like we have seen already in court, and tries to play it off like she and her family didn't know they did wrong etc...then she is risking getting the book thrown at her.

Slippery slope.....What to do?

...2 Cents....

 

[sunshineray]

Angie made it clear to her mom--- don't testify against any of them!

So Rita is between a rock and a hard place. If she cooperates with the prosecution to lessen her charges and sentence, thus helping herself, inevitably she could end up testifying against her family. That could be in her own trial or at theirs.

But if she stays stubborn, like we have seen already in court, and tries to play it off like she and her family didn't know they did wrong etc...then she is risking getting the book thrown at her.

Slippery slope.....What to do?

...2 Cents....

CoolCats, what do you mean Angie made it clear to her Mom? I know AW got in trouble for talking to her Mom from prison. Were those convos taped and brought up in court? AW's privileges were curtailed because she broken the no communication rules, right?

 

[Sleuthinsleuther]

CoolCats, what do you mean Angie made it clear to her Mom? I know AW got in trouble for talking to her Mom from prison. Were those convos taped and brought up in court? AW's privileges were curtailed because she broken the no communication rules, right?

They said she was telling her mom not to testify

 

[Cool Cats]

CoolCats, what do you mean Angie made it clear to her Mom? I know AW got in trouble for talking to her Mom from prison. Were those convos taped and brought up in court? AW's privileges were curtailed because she broken the no communication rules, right?

QUOTE IS FROM RITA NEWCOMB BAIL REVOCATION HEARING - PART 1

Angela Canepa:

" ...There were 20 different conversations... "
"..Rita herself initiates conversation asking where certain documents are and she says 'I know I'm not supposed to talk about this on here'--- but---then she proceeds to ask the questions.

I just indicated to the Court that some of the information that we're talking about right now came directly from the jail calls that Angela had with Rita.
She tells her not to testify against them, that she doesn't have to if she doesn't want to.

Their talking about the date on the bottom of the paper which is the date April 2016 when the documents were printed out and how she copied it over. Things that her attorney is looking for --- indicates that Angela said something to Chris to read to Jake. Rita says she hopes she doesn't go to jail.."

ME:

Yes those Angie/Rita conversations were brought up in Court (transcribed) much more than what I just posted. Yes this is why Angela's privileges were revoked. Also Canepa said Rita sent Angie a letter and maybe because of this, I don't know, Angie' s
mail privileges are suspended also.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Jake Wagner phone right should have been revoked when Angela’s was, he talked on 3 way to his mother about the case! JMO, JMO

 

[Sleuthinsleuther]

Jake Wagner phone right should have been revoked when Angela’s was, he talked on 3 way to his mother about the case! JMO, JMO

It doesn’t matter, anything he says can and will be used against him.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

"....there's still a massive cult following..."

Norman Reedus Addresses Possibility of Boondock Saints 3

Wow! Kind of like Pulp Fiction w its cult following??

 

[Betty P]

Wow! Kind of like Pulp Fiction w its cult following??

Wow, I wonder if the actors and backers are aware their movie may have inspired a family of spree killers who murdered 8 people?

JMO

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Wow, I wonder if the actors and backers are aware their movie may have inspired a family of spree killers who murdered 8 people?

JMO

Hard to say. I couldn't bring myself to watch the first one, let alone the 2nd or eventual 3rd. SMH

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Wow, I wonder if the actors and backers are aware their movie may have inspired a family of spree killers who murdered 8 people?

JMO

You could always tell them. I'm not sure it would make a difference to them. I also doubt that the seed was planted by the movie. JMOO

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Guess what everyone today is Angela Wagners BIRTHDAY!
Wonder what kind of birthday cake she had!