OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #57

[Loomis124]

And there's a sort of plexiglass that is often used in office trailers of the type CR was using. Maybe FR wasn't home when CR was hit?

Here's a page from May 2016, easy to see the high-res, ground level pics we discussed have been unplugged, not to be accessed again.

This pic does work, but is aerial and the holes are obscured by the circles, from the same page linked above: https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/cr1bulletholes-jpg.94569/

Easy to see the mini blind that's possibly woodgrain, and raised halfway.

I remember seeing the holes in the window in many different photos

 

[Dudly]

Ok, window people. Is there any pics of the back side of the house that may show a bullet hole or broken Window? Maybe a shot was fired from outside with the rifle and night vision scope and it went through the house. Maybe that was the shot that grazed GR and took off his ear if that happened. Just a possibility in my opinion.

 

[Cool Cats]

I remember seeing the holes in the window in many different photos

I do not. Anyone?

I did not come on here until end the very end of December 2018. So please enlighten me with these bullet hole photos which I have never seen. No disrespect intended in any way. Thanks Loomis.

 

[Dudly]

Ok, window people. Is there any pics of the back side of the house that may show a bullet hole or broken Window? Maybe a shot was fired from outside with the rifle and night vision scope and it went through the house. Maybe that was the shot that grazed GR and took off his ear if that happened. Just a possibility in my opinion.

 

[LeftEyed]

I just want to know if GW4 wore the Captain America mask.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

I have one of the pocket slingshot devices.
They are worthless. Weak and impossible to aim.
Next.
Firing a weapon thru a window blind at a close range would blow a much bigger hole in it due to the muzzle blast.
Finally.
The rifle was not a "32 rifle" it was an SKS, Russian designed 7.62 X 39 military rifle.
Not full automatic, probably a Chinese clone of the actual rifle, shoots the same ammunition as an AK-47.
MOO

That's what hubby said. More like an AR-15 than anything.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

There might be both. GW4's SKS that he admitted getting a night scope for to hunt raccoons and a 32 rifle of which shell casings were found at Senior's. I would have to look over my hearing notes to be accurate about this but both sound familiar to me as per mentioned in the bond hearing. I like to get it word for word.

I have yet to see any bullet holes through any windows. I doubt it, but I do concede that casings were found on Senior's porch. But the theory of shooting deliberately through a window I don't believe. Perhaps a door but not a window unless I can see something substantial.

I bet there are no photos of any bullet holes through any Rhoden windows that can be produced. Sounds like a rumor to me but just my opinion after over 4 years of never seeing anything to substantiate this.

I am open to hearing why others believe this happened, which window at Seniors, and why they think it happened?

I assume everyone is talking about the window to the left of front porch that was clearly boarded up in March 2016, which later, after the murders, appears to be a normal window not boarded up with no bullet holes that I have ever seen.

Just being honest with how it looks to me, and again, I am open to other posters who see it differently.

No disrespect intended toward anyone.
... 2 Cents Only ...

I remember seeing what looked like a bullet hole in the window to the left of the porch. It was discussed endlessly in the earlier posts after the murders. Nothing says it was fired from the outside. Could have been a missed shot from the inside. Same result. A bullet hole. It could have been something else though but it was there.

JMO

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Slingshot maybe good for knocking out cameras or lights. Just hear glass break.

Ask anyone who has kids and grandkids what a slingshot can do.....or neighbors with kids....or random kids from around town. lol

jmo

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Trailer windows are made of regular single pane glass. It would shatter upon impact unlike auto (safety plate) or an acrylic substitute. Big Chris was shot thru a door according to autopsy. That is where the rifle was used in my opinion. Using a rifle in a house trailer would be problematic as to maneuvering it. Big Chris was killed first, with a noticeable time lapse before the others. However, A rifle would have alerted Frankie something was up. I wonder how they would have accomplished that?

We don't know what he may have replaced it with. I bought acrylic glass for my screened in porch in the winter time. We put it up when it starts getting cold here, around November, take it down in spring. Looks and as clear as glass but shatterproof. Good thing since I have some of those neighbors with kids. lol. Maybe since Chris had grandkids he got tired of replacing the glass.

jmo

 

[Cool Cats]

I remember seeing what looked like a bullet hole in the window to the left of the porch. It was discussed endlessly in the earlier posts after the murders. Nothing says it was fired from the outside. Could have been a missed shot from the inside. Same result. A bullet hole. It could have been something else though but it was there.

JMO

Thankx

 

[Cool Cats]

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Cool. Thankx

 

[RAISINISBACK]

You must have never broken a window as a kid, say, with a wrist rocket. It is the nature of single pane glass to crack and fall apart when impacted. That is why they use laminated plate glass in autos. The glass is brittle and a matrix of molecules, unlike the human body.

We use this on our screened in porch. Works great, takes a beating well from hail, limbs, storms ect. They use a lot of it in the coastal areas for windows as hurricane winds don't shatter it like they do glass. It's hard to get any right now because of hurricanes, but we bought ours a year or so back. It wears well too. Just watch what you clean it with so it doesn't yellow.

OPTIX 0.118-in T x 36-in W x 72-in L Clear Acrylic Sheet
jmo

 

[RAISINISBACK]

I might add that acrylic glass does not shatter like glass would if you shoot it. It would just make a hole. Hubby cut the acrylic with a skill saw but you can also cut it with a hooked knife then break it where you scored it with the knife. It insulates as well as glass. Down here we use it a lot because of high winds and hail and small tornadoes. They use it on the coasts because it holds up well in hurricanes. Maybe Chris only wanted to replace his glass once or had a problem with kids breaking it. Of course this is all only my opinion since I have no idea what he used. Just one theory.

JMO

 

[Dudly]

In AW's motion the Defense is not wanting the Prosecution to have more time to decide what "previous acts" they want to use. They said there was ten TB of evidence against AW and on Sept. 2 another 1.25 TB was added. Defense says that Prosecution claims there is evidence of "previous acts" included but has not left the defendant know what it is. In another case cited, a defendant changed their plea after known what "other acts" Prosecution intended to use, and in this case AW has not been told.

 

[Cool Cats]

In AW's motion the Defense is not wanting the Prosecution to have more time to decide what "previous acts" they want to use. They said there was ten TB of evidence against AW and on Sept. 2 another 1.25 TB was added. Defense says that Prosecution claims there is evidence of "previous acts" included but has not left the defendant know what it is. In another case cited, a defendant changed their plea after known what "other acts" Prosecution intended to use, and in this case AW has not been told.

Not sure what you mean? AW has previous acts of violence? She has a previous record of theft that was dismissed and she threatened to kill Tab.

What else?

Don't get me wrong. Threatening to kill her daughter-in-law is damning but it is one word against the other.

Just trying to put it together.

 

[ColMustard]

I do not. Anyone?

I did not come on here until end the very end of December 2018. So please enlighten me with these bullet hole photos which I have never seen. No disrespect intended in any way. Thanks Loomis.

I forgot this link in an earlier post, too late to edit.
OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #13

That's a page from May 2016 with mention of the holes, I worked back from there a few pages but so many of the pics are red Xs now, so I gave up on finding those ground level pics. The pics are unplugged, gone from the net.

 

[Myland]

Jmo I think Chris knew something was going to happen. I still believe even if was the Wagner’s are the killers Chris was the true target. Not sure he knew it was going to be that bad. Jmo I think the killers chose Friday early morning hours because they wouldn’t be expected to be at work Friday. A lot of jobs work 4 10’s. I think the killers actually thought it would take longer for the bodies to be discovered. Jmo

 

[Cool Cats]

I'm

I forgot this link in an earlier post, too late to edit.
OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #13

That's a page from May 2016 with mention of the holes, I worked back from there a few pages but so many of the pics are red Xs now, so I gave up on finding those ground level pics. The pics are unplugged, gone from the net.

Sorry it shows error.

Look, there are no bullet holes in any windows. I have people in my husband's family who knew them and they rely on me for information.

There is no reason for bullet holes in the front window of Senior's trailer
because ballistics shows bullet casings only on his porch, front room and under his trailer.

I'm on here for the facts of the case. If there are facts about Wagner's shooting bullets through Senior's front window then I'm all for it.

Just show me what has come up about it so I can share the facts. Thanks.

Appreciate your posts and no disrespect intended.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

I'm

Sorry it shows error.

Look, there are no bullet holes in any windows. I have people in my husband's family who knew them and they rely on me for information.

There is no reason for bullet holes in the front window of Senior's trailer
because ballistics shows bullet casings only on his porch, front room and under his trailer.

I'm on here for the facts of the case. If there are facts about Wagner's shooting bullets through Senior's front window then I'm all for it.

Just show me what has come up about it so I can share the facts. Thanks.

Appreciate your posts and no disrespect intended.

So what if it was an inside shot that missed it's target? Wouldn't the casing be ejected on the inside? Who knows how many shots were fired inside that trailer? There is no iron clad fact that it's bullet holes. Just speculation. But I do remember seeing the photos and thinking it was bullet holes. It will come out in the trial. You will get facts then.

jmo

 

[Cool Cats]

So what if it was an inside shot that missed it's target? Wouldn't the casing be ejected on the inside? Who knows how many shots were fired inside that trailer? There is no iron clad fact that it's bullet holes. Just speculation. But I do remember seeing the photos and thinking it was bullet holes. It will come out in the trial. You will get facts then.

jmo

OK .. Fair enough. I might have been over-thinking the whole thing, which is no secret I do.