OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #59

[Cool Cats]

Some of the Wagners were staying at the Days Inn in Jackson, OH. Recall the room was searched after they left:

June 8, 2017

BCI searches trash at Days Inn, Jackson, OH (presume this hotel where GW3 and family stayed)

If anyone has updates to the timeline, please let me know. The rest of it is at the link above. I'll add updates and post.

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I think it's possible the Wagners were at the Jackson Days Inn in Missouri.

From FWF to the Ohio Jackson Days Inn it's a 45 minute drive East.
Why would they drive 45 minutes East when they need to go West and North?

The Jackson Days Inn in Missouri is only a 30 minute drive away from Highway P where the Missouri property is that they wanted to buy.

June 8, 2017 - Trash Pull Jackson Days Inn (Missouri or Ohio)

Also June 8, 2017 - Chris Graves article comes out, interviews with Angela/Jake through Facebook and e-mail.

Estimate the 3rd week of June 2017 - Wagners arrive in Kenai AK.
Sunday June 18, 2017 - Wagners attend church in Kenai AK.

Monday June 19, 2017 - AK neighbor Brad Conklin sees the Wagners with two heavy-duty pickup trucks, a large horse trailer and another 24-foot-long trailer covered with a tarp. Conklin spoke with Jake and Billy Wagner warning them to keep a loaded gun for bears. They told Conklin that they had a 12-gauge shotgun. Billy said that he was "gonna go out and get some decent shotgun shells for it cause that's all they have is a shotgun," Conklin said.

Tuesday June 20, 2017 - AK neighbor Conklin gives interview to Chris Graves, says he saw the Wagners yesterday, on Monday.

Also Tuesday June 20, 2017 - The Wagners' long time friend and Ohio Pastor, Kelly Cinereski, who now is pastor at Resurrection Bay Baptist Church in Seward, Alaska, tells WCPO 9 News that the Wagners are trying to move on and they attended his son's church in Kenai AK on Sunday. Cinereski's children grew up playing with George and Jake. (Cinereski is the closest Wagner friend I have found who will speak out.)

Wednesday June 21, 2017 - MSM puts out the DeWine laser focus article. Note that DeWine seems to have calculated it to coincide with the Wagners moving into their AK rental making it impossible for the Wagners to "blend in."

June 28, 2017 - The Wagners' Ohio attorney gives interviews to MSM claiming that LE is harassing his clients.

July 3, 2017 - Angela and Billy register to vote in AK.

July 8, 2017 - Chris Graves interview. Jake complains: “And then it followed us here.”

July 14, 2017 - Daily Mail puts out rare photos of the Wagners at Walmart and information about some of the Wagners' activities.

July/August 2017 - Billy was fined for not having enough life jackets onboard a boat. He paid the fine.

July/ August 2017 - Jake applied for a fishing and hunting license.

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November 23, 2017 - Angela Wagner's dad Edward Carter passes away, Angie inherits his house in Webster Ohio.

December 2017 - Jake Wagner pleaded no contest to a speeding ticket issued in Soldotna, about a three hour drive south of Anchorage.

At time of arrests November 13, 2018 - In an interview with KTVA, Brad Conklin, the Wagners' neighbor, said the Wagners pretty much kept to themselves and moved back to Ohio in May.

 

[Puzzles8]

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That's a good thought about the Days Inn being near the Missouri Hwy P property. I'm having a hard time finding the Days Inn in Jackson, MO. I can find Jackson, MO (NW of St. Louis), but not a Days Inn. Help!

 

[Coloradans28]

Any updates on Angela Wagner medical condition?

 

[Niner]

Any updates on Angela Wagner medical condition?

Nothing in the court site, but the Court granted her motion to go to the medical facility.

 

[Betty P]

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That's a good thought about the Days Inn being near the Missouri Hwy P property. I'm having a hard time finding the Days Inn in Jackson, MO. I can find Jackson, MO (NW of St. Louis), but not a Days Inn. Help!

It was the Days Inn in Jackson, OH

 

[Cool Cats]

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That's a good thought about the Days Inn being near the Missouri Hwy P property. I'm having a hard time finding the Days Inn in Jackson, MO. I can find Jackson, MO (NW of St. Louis), but not a Days Inn. Help!

I did some calling around and that hotel used to be called Days Inn. The new owner told me he bought it in 2019 and it's now called Town House Inn. It is off HWY 61
which is the address that was used. Now they use the address Jackson Blvd which is still the exact same place.


Jackson-Days Inn
517 Highway 61 East, Jackson, MO 63755

Town House Inn
517 E Jackson Blvd, Jackson, MO 63755



If you run up north (slightly east) on HWY 61 for 30 miles you will eventually intersect with HWY P where the house is they were trying to get a mortgage loan for. Using fraudulent financial information.

 

[Betty P]

I did some calling around and that hotel used to be called Days Inn. The new owner told me he bought it in 2019 and it's now called Town House Inn. It is off HWY 61
which is the address that was used. Now they use the address Jackson Blvd which is still the exact same place.


Jackson-Days Inn
517 Highway 61 East, Jackson, MO 63755

Town House Inn
517 E Jackson Blvd, Jackson, MO 63755

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The Jackson Days Inn in MO was nowhere near the place near Lebanon, MO where they looked at property. It's way down in southeast MO and far off the beaten path, so to speak. It was my mistake that I typed MO in there and I meant to remove it later.

The Days Inn is in Jackson, OH.

They stayed there a few days after moving out of the Peterson Rd farm and before taking off to AK.

It's just east of Piketon

Google Maps

OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#45

 

[Betty P]

I did some calling around and that hotel used to be called Days Inn. The new owner told me he bought it in 2019 and it's now called Town House Inn. It is off HWY 61
which is the address that was used. Now they use the address Jackson Blvd which is still the exact same place.


Jackson-Days Inn
517 Highway 61 East, Jackson, MO 63755

Town House Inn
517 E Jackson Blvd, Jackson, MO 63755

View attachment 286367

If you run up north (slightly east) on HWY 61 for 30 miles you will eventually intersect with HWY P where the house is they were trying to get a mortgage loan for. Using fraudulent financial information.

That would be a very long drive, a few hours at least. On very windy 2 lane back roads. Very scenic, have driven it before.

 

[Cool Cats]

The Jackson Days Inn in MO was nowhere near the place near Lebanon, MO where they looked at property. It's way down in southeast MO and far off the beaten path, so to speak. It was my mistake that I typed MO in there and I meant to remove it later.

The Days Inn is in Jackson, OH.

They stayed there a few days after moving out of the Peterson Rd farm and before taking off to AK.

It's just east of Piketon

Google Maps

OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#45

How do we know for sure that they stayed in the Ohio Days Inn?
You are probably right but I still have to wonder if they stayed over night in MO.

To do all that work to get a fake mortgage loan means meeting with loan companies and signing documents and showing proof of income etc... The Wagners going to the city of Jackson MO, the State where the house is, makes total sense. Jackson has a Days Inn now renamed Town House Inn.

I was researching the MO HWY system, not the names of the towns. If they stayed in the Jackson Days Inn which is on HWY 61, all they had to do was drive on it until they hit HWY P, just 30 miles. Then drive down HWY P to their property. The evidence address shows "their" house is on HWY P.

Yes maybe it doesn't make sense they went to Jackson and not ST Louis, but I can't discount the possibility they might have done this. Why did they go all the way to Jackson OH when there are closer hotels? A 45 minute drive east from FWF.

 

[Antimony]

Nothing in the court site, but the Court granted her motion to go to the medical facility.

Anything more than this might violate "HIPPA".

 

[Betty P]

How do we know for sure that they stayed in the Ohio Days Inn?
You are probably right but I still have to wonder if they stayed over night in MO.

To do all that work to get a fake mortgage loan means meeting with loan companies and signing documents and showing proof of income etc... The Wagners going to the city of Jackson MO, the State where the house is, makes total sense. Jackson has a Days Inn now renamed Town House Inn.

I was researching the MO HWY system, not the names of the towns. If they stayed in the Jackson Days Inn which is on HWY 61, all they had to do was drive on it until they hit HWY P, just 30 miles. Then drive down HWY P to their property. The evidence address shows "their" house is on HWY P.

Yes maybe it doesn't make sense they went to Jackson and not ST Louis, but I can't discount the possibility they might have done this. Why did they go all the way to Jackson OH when there are closer hotels? A 45 minute drive east from FWF.

I remember seeing documents relating to that property in MO, with the address being farther north, somewhere near I 44, south of Lake of the Ozarks.

I see a Hwy PP near Jackson, MO, but not a Hwy P. Will keep looking for that document.

ETA: Ok, I see a Hwy P down near New Madrid, MO. That's down in the "bootheel" of Missouri, near the Mississippi River. Is that where the property is located that they were trying to buy?

 

[Cool Cats]

That would be a very long drive, a few hours at least. On very windy 2 lane back roads. Very scenic, have driven it before.

Like I said you are probably right they were in the Ohio Jackson Days Inn, it just bugs me though about this Jackson Missouri Days Inn and them looking to buy Missouri property.

 

[Cool Cats]

I remember seeing documents relating to that property in MO, with the address being farther north, somewhere near I 44, south of Lake of the Ozarks.

I see a Hwy PP near Jackson, MO, but not a Hwy P. Will keep looking for that document.

Thanks, just trying to figure it out on limited information. I looked that property up before. I'll look again.

 

[Betty P]

Thanks, just trying to figure it out on limited information. I looked that property up before. I'll look again.

I'll look, too. I recall seeing a copy of something.


Here's a link to Angela Wagner's discovery list

https://www.scribd.com/document/402565469/Angela-Wagner

 

[Cool Cats]

I'll look, too. I recall seeing a copy of something.


Here's a link to Angela Wagner's discovery list

https://www.scribd.com/document/402565469/Angela-Wagner

176 Highway P, Long Lane, MO 65590 - realtor.com®

Missouri (Discovery)
176 Highway P Property
BCI Photos (36)
Listing Written Description (8 pp)
Photos From Listing (60)
Fairway Lending Subpoena (1 p)
Fairway Lending -- Residential Loan Application (202 pp)
Movement Mortgage
Mortage Documents

• Apr 10, 2017
  Price Changed to $199,000
  
  
  
  
  
  

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Do you Sluthers think that the Wagners travel the back roads, because of fear of being watched???? JMO

 

[Sleuthinsleuther]

Do you Sluthers think that the Wagners travel the back roads, because of fear of being watched???? JMO

They probably took the highway then turned right on UHR

 

[Cool Cats]

Do you Sluthers think that the Wagners travel the back roads, because of fear of being watched???? JMO

The night of the murders yes. No other time like when BCI was watching them, because they were not cautious.

They were paranoid that they were being recorded yet they still said incriminating things. They left the shoe receipt and the custody documents in Jake's truck instead of getting rid of all that stuff.

They didn't need those fake documents anymore and didn't need the receipt so why stash them?

They bought/made brass catchers yet left behind damning shell casings. They target practiced on their property leaving casings buried, then left behind casings matching them at a crime scene.

They took time to burn a silencer then just threw it in their own well.

Dumbest?

Walmart. Some of the most sophisticated security in retail. And dragging bodies leaving their footprints. I knew professionals wouldn't do that. I was right, I guessed it was locals.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

They probably took the highway then turned right on UHR

I’m talking about when the Wagners went to Alaska, I might be wrong but I feel that the Wagners where spooked when they sold everything and left Ohio, I just wonder if they traveled the back roads to make sure they were not getting followed,JMO

 

[Johnny B Bad]

I wonder when they threw the parts to the suppresser into the well? I think that the suppresser that ATF found was the first the killers made, and that wasn’t quite right so they made another for the murders. Like GW4 said if they got the suppresser than they have the gun, JMO