OH - Pike Co, 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #69

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  • #481
Well - I can not access the court site this morning - but will go ahead & post this - so I can shorten up a bit.

Tuesday, July 5th:
*Jury Selection begins (@ 9am ET) - OH - Pike County 8 people dead: Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (40), his ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden (37), their three children, Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden (20), Christopher Jr. (16), Hanna Mae (19); Frankie's fiancée, Hannah Hazel Gilley (20), Christopher Rhoden Sr.'s brother, Kenneth Rhoden (44), & a cousin, Gary Rhoden (37). Hanna Rhoden's baby girl (5 days old), another baby (6 mos.) and a young child (3) were unharmed. (April 21-22, 2016, Pebbles) – for *George Washington Wagner IV (27/now 30) (Jakes’ bro) indicted (11/12/18), arrested (11/13/18), charged (11/15/18) & arraigned (11/28/18) with 8 counts aggravated murder, (plus gun specifications on each), 1 count of 1st degree conspiracy, 4 counts of 1st degree aggravated burglary, 1 count of 5th degree unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance, 3 counts of 3rd degree evidence tampering, 1 count of 5th degree forgery, 1 count of 5th degree unauthorized use of computer or telecommunications, 1 count of 4th degree interception of wire, oral or electronic communication, 1 count of 5th degree obstructing justice, & 1 count of 1st degree engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DA will seek the DP. Per Jake’s plea agreement, DP is off the table if his testimony is truthful.
Trial set to begin on 8/29/22 with general voir dire for the jury, opening statements, evidence, etc. (Trial is scheduled for 30 days).
7/5/22
through 7/8/22 & 7/11/22 through 7/15/22, beginning each day at 9am - completion of jury questionnaires by summoned prospective jurors.
8/8/22 through 8/12/22 - each day beginning at 9am - individual voir dire.
8/15/22 through 8/19/22 - each day beginning at 9am - individual voir dire.
8/29/22 at 9am - beginning of trial, including general voir dire for the jury, opening statements, evidence & so forth. The jury trial is scheduled for 30 days.

Crime info & court hearings from 11/28/18 thru 6/10/22 reference post #284 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-69.623311/page-15

6/17/22: Return from Adams Co. Sheriff-subpoena served to Lee Pertuset, Adams Co. engineer on 6/15/22. Warrant for removal from Montgomery Co. jail on 6/21/22 for hearing. Motions hearing on 6/21/22. 6/21/22: Memorandum Contra: Defendant's motion for an Order requiring an exhibit list prior to trial filed by DA Robert Junk. 6/21/22: Memorandum Contra: Defendants motion to suppress testimony of jail house informed filed by DA Robert Junk. 6/21/22: Motion #96: Motion in Limine on the admissibility of statements in violation of the hearsay rule filed by defense attorney John Parker. Motion #97: Defendant's motion to permit accused to appear without restraints at all proceedings filed by defense attorney John Parker.
6/21/22 Update: Judge will discuss motions #80, 85, 92 & 93. Motion #80: The defense for Wagner IV argued that the court should suppress the testimony of his brother, Jake Wagner, & his mother, Angela Wagner. The argument to suppress their testimony, specifically Jake’s, was built on the 6th Amendment, Wagner IV’s lawyers explained. According to his defense, a good cross-examination of Jake by their side could make him change his story. The defense said if they did a good job with the cross exam, it would hinder their ability to represent their client, thus going against the 6th Amendment, the defense said. The judge, after hearing the defense’s side & the prosecution’s counter, denied the motion (#80). The judge’s ruling now paves the way for both Jake & Angela to take the stand. Motion #85: Motion to dismiss: Defense says murders were not in Pike County. Counts 6 murder of Dana, Scioto County, 7 murder of Hannah, Scioto County, 8 murder of Chris Jr, Scioto County, 9 aggravated murder, Adams County, 13 aggravated burglary, Scioto County, 18 forgery, Adams County, 19 unauthorized use of property, Adams County, 20 interception of wire, oral & electronic communication, Adams County & 21 obstructing justice, Adams County. If State amends indictment Judge will denied motion by defense to dismiss those charges. DA will respond to defense #87 (to adhere to the Ohio statutory scheme for jury service) by Friday, 6/24/22 & on #89 (for an Order requiring an exhibit list prior to trial) State to submit a written argument. The deadline to file pretrial motions & the exchange of lists of experts is 7/6/22. #90 (in camera hearing; it is about JW ex & her location/contact) - did contact Supreme Court & a judge has been appointed to hear the in camera hearing. Motion #91 (to extend deadline to 6/12/22)-granted & #95 withdrawn by defense. Motion #94 (transcripts to be paid by State)-granted. DA responded to #92 (to dismiss death specifics) Judge wants written arguments & #93 (to suppress testimony of jailhouse informant) also written arguments to be filed. Defense & DA have prepared jury questionnaire & Judge waiting to see those.
6/22/22: Motions #8 thru #10: overruled & denied, no ruling on #11, Motions #12 thru #15: overruled & denied, Motions #19, #21 & #22: granted, Motions #23 & #24: overruled & denied, Motions #25 thru #29: granted, Motion #30: granted in part & denied in part, Motion #31: overruled & denied, Motion #32: granted in part & denied in part, Motions #33 thru #42: overruled & denied, Motion #43: granted in part & denied in part, Motions #44 thru #48: overruled & denied, Motion #49: granted, and Motions #50 thru #52: overruled & denied.
See post #364 here for rulings on Motions 8 thru 52:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-69.623311/page-19
6/24/22: Defendant's notice of supplemental reciprocal discovery filed by John Parker.

6/28/22: Journal entries: Defendant's Motion #80: Motion to suppress testimony of Jake & Angela & to dismiss the death specifications-overruled & denied. Defendant's Motion #85: Motion to dismiss-overruled & denied. Defendant's Motion #87: Motion to adhere to the Ohio statutory scheme for jury service-will be decided by the Court without further hearings or arguments. Defendant's Motion #89: Motion for an order requiring an exhibit list prior to trial-is overruled & denied; however, it is Ordered that counsel for the State of Ohio shall prepare an exhibit list of the evidence that is used at trial, shall update the list as the trial progresses & shall provide a copy of the list to the Court, to the Defendant & to the jury, if & as ordered by the Court during the trial or at the conclusion of the trial. Defendant's Motion #11 requests relief similar to Motion #89-overruled & denied. Defendant's Motion #92: Motion to dismiss death specifications is similar to Motion #14-overruled & denied. Defendant's Motion #93: Motion to suppress testimony of jail house informants. Having considered all of the Defendant's arguments in support of Defendant's Motion #93 & all of the State of Ohio's arguments in opposition to Defendant's Motion #93, the Court finds & determines that Defendant's Motion #93 is not well taken, provided that at the time the jail house informants, if any, obtained information that the State of Ohio intends to introduce through them at trial the jail house informants were not inmates cooperating with the State of Ohio who obtained the information through conversations with the Defendant initiated by the inmates relating to the pending charges in this action or as to the Defendant's character, history & background without the presence of defense counsel, as prohibited by the Court's ruling upon Defendant's Motion #13, which was unopposed by the State of Ohio. With such caveat, it is Ordered that Defendant's Motion #93 is overruled & denied. Next jury selection starts on 7/5/22 (thru 7/8/22).
6/30/22: Response to Defendant's Motion #87 requesting the Court to adhere to the Ohio statutory scheme for jury service filed.
*George Washington Wagner III (47/now 51)Pretrial hearing on 2/1/22.
*Edward Jacob “Jake” Wagner (26/now 29) – Plead guilty (4/22/21) to all charges & will testify in the trials.
*Angela Jo Wagner (48/now 51) – 9/10/21: Plead guilty to a plea deal to Counts 9 thru 22, Counts 1-8 were dismissed. Will be sentenced to 30 years in prison with no early release & has to testify against others at trial.
*Rita Jo Newcomb (65/now 69) – Last Motions hearing on 12/2/19 entered a plea of guilty. Expected to testify in the trials.

*Fredericka Carol Wagner (76/now 80) – 6/26/19 Charges were dismissed without prejudice.

Called court clerk she gave me new court site address.

Use this, it goes right to the court site same as before:

cpcourt.pikecounty.oh.gov

Just go to Google and type it in.


07/01/2022ORDER REGARDING MEDIA PARTICIPATION AND GENERAL DECORUM AT ALL PROCEEDINGS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PRETRIALS, MOTION HEARING, VOIR DIRE AND/OR TRIAL FILED
07/01/2022DEFENDANT'S NOTICE OF SUPPLEMENTAL RECIPROCAL DISCOVERY FILED
07/01/2022DECISION AND JOURNAL ENTRY CONCERNING DEFENDANT'S MOTION NO. 87 FILED

I hope these are just rules for how the media can record the trial. I am counting on the trial being recorded, like we have been able to see all the hearings I hope we also see the trial.
 
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  • #482
Thanks for the new link @Cool Cats - it works! :)
 
  • #483
Are they still working on seating jury/questionnaires tomorrow?
Yes.

From 9er's post:

Trial set to begin on 8/29/22 with general voir dire for the jury, opening statements, evidence, etc. (Trial is scheduled for 30 days).

7/5/22 through 7/8/22 & 7/11/22 through 7/15/22, beginning each day at 9am - completion of jury questionnaires by summoned prospective jurors.
8/8/22 through 8/12/22 - each day beginning at 9am - individual voir dire.
8/15/22 through 8/19/22 - each day beginning at 9am - individual voir dire.

8/29/22 at 9am - beginning of trial, including general voir dire for the jury, opening statements, evidence & so forth. The jury trial is scheduled for 30 days.
 
  • #484
DBM
 
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  • #485
Called court clerk she gave me new court site address.

Use this, it goes right to the court site same as before:

cpcourt.pikecounty.oh.gov

Just go to Google and type it in.


07/01/2022ORDER REGARDING MEDIA PARTICIPATION AND GENERAL DECORUM AT ALL PROCEEDINGS INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PRETRIALS, MOTION HEARING, VOIR DIRE AND/OR TRIAL FILED
07/01/2022DEFENDANT'S NOTICE OF SUPPLEMENTAL RECIPROCAL DISCOVERY FILED
07/01/2022DECISION AND JOURNAL ENTRY CONCERNING DEFENDANT'S MOTION NO. 87 FILED

I hope these are just rules for how the media can record the trial. I am counting on the trial being recorded, like we have been able to see all the hearings I hope we also see the trial.
Thank you CC
 
  • #486
Yes.

From 9er's post:

Trial set to begin on 8/29/22 with general voir dire for the jury, opening statements, evidence, etc. (Trial is scheduled for 30 days).

7/5/22 through 7/8/22 & 7/11/22 through 7/15/22, beginning each day at 9am - completion of jury questionnaires by summoned prospective jurors.
8/8/22 through 8/12/22 - each day beginning at 9am - individual voir dire.
8/15/22 through 8/19/22 - each day beginning at 9am - individual voir dire.

8/29/22 at 9am - beginning of trial, including general voir dire for the jury, opening statements, evidence & so forth. The jury trial is scheduled for 30 days.
So this is going to go ahead thru pike county?
 
  • #487
So this is going to go ahead thru pike county?
They are trying to seat the jury in Pike County but Judge Deering said:

Judge Randy Deering denied the request for a change of venue but said “it remains to be seen whether or not we can seat a jury.”

It is standard procedure in Ohio to try to sit a Jury in the County the crime took place.

They are right now trying to keep the trial in Pike County and using jurors from Pike County.

Change of venue in Wagner murder trial …

Rhoden case: New details emerge as judge …

Change of venue in Wagner murder trial denied by Pike County Judge​

Rhoden case: New details emerge as judge rules George Wagner IV to stand trial in Pike County​

 
  • #488
So this is going to go ahead thru pike county?
As of now it is. I am a little worried they will not be able to seat a jury since a lot of people may know or be related to some of the family of the R's or the W's. I sure hope they can seat a jury or it will prob be next year before they can start a trial.
 
  • #489
As of now it is. I am a little worried they will not be able to seat a jury since a lot of people may know or be related to some of the family of the R's or the W's. I sure hope they can seat a jury or it will prob be next year before they can start a trial.
I'm not sure that knowing either family would, in and of itself, preclude a prospective juror from serving. Otherwise, they might not ever be able to seat a jury when the defendant is from Pike County. Does anyone know if there's a specific law on the books, or is it up to the judge's discretion? TIA
 
  • #490
So - did anything happen yesterday on jury questionnaire day? Nothing updated in the court site... I'll go ahead & post this until someone tells me any different.

Wednesday, July 6th:
*Jury Selection Questionnaire (Day 2) (@ 9am ET) - OH - Pike County 8 people dead: Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (40), his ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden (37), their three children, Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden (20), Christopher Jr. (16), Hanna Mae (19); Frankie's fiancée, Hannah Hazel Gilley (20), Christopher Rhoden Sr.'s brother, Kenneth Rhoden (44), & a cousin, Gary Rhoden (37). Hanna Rhoden's baby girl (5 days old), another baby (6 mos.) and a young child (3) were unharmed. (April 21-22, 2016, Pebbles) – for *George Washington Wagner IV (27/now 30) (Jakes’ bro) indicted (11/12/18), arrested (11/13/18), charged (11/15/18) & arraigned (11/28/18) with 8 counts aggravated murder, (plus gun specifications on each), 1 count of 1st degree conspiracy, 4 counts of 1st degree aggravated burglary, 1 count of 5th degree unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance, 3 counts of 3rd degree evidence tampering, 1 count of 5th degree forgery, 1 count of 5th degree unauthorized use of computer or telecommunications, 1 count of 4th degree interception of wire, oral or electronic communication, 1 count of 5th degree obstructing justice, & 1 count of 1st degree engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DA will seek the DP. Per Jake’s plea agreement, DP is off the table if his testimony is truthful.
Trial set to begin on 8/29/22 with general voir dire for the jury, opening statements, evidence, etc. (Trial is scheduled for 30 days).
7/6/22
through 7/8/22 & 7/11/22 through 7/15/22, beginning each day at 9am - completion of jury questionnaires by summoned prospective jurors.
8/8/22 through 8/12/22 - each day beginning at 9am - individual voir dire.
8/15/22 through 8/19/22 - each day beginning at 9am - individual voir dire.
8/29/22 at 9am - beginning of trial, including general voir dire for the jury, opening statements, evidence & so forth. The jury trial is scheduled for 30 days.

Crime info & court hearings from 11/28/18 thru 6/28/22 reference post #480 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...bers-wagner-family-arrested-69.623311/page-24

6/30/22: Response to Defendant's Motion #87 requesting the Court to adhere to the Ohio statutory scheme for jury service filed. Next completion of jury selection questionnaires started on 7/5/22 (thru 7/8/22). 7/1/22: Order regarding media participation & general decorum at all proceedings including but not limited to pretrials, motion hearing, voir dire &/or trial filed. Defendant's Notice of supplement reciprocal discovery filed. Decision & journal entry concerning defendant's Motion #87 filed.
7/5/22 Jury questionnaires Day 1: No info available. Jury questionnaires continued on 7/6/22.
*George Washington Wagner III (47/now 51)Pretrial hearing on 2/1/22.
*Edward Jacob “Jake” Wagner (26/now 29) – Plead guilty (4/22/21) to all charges & will testify in the trials.
*Angela Jo Wagner (48/now 51) – 9/10/21: Plead guilty to a plea deal to Counts 9 thru 22, Counts 1-8 were dismissed. Will be sentenced to 30 years in prison with no early release & has to testify against others at trial.
*Rita Jo Newcomb (65/now 69) – Last Motions hearing on 12/2/19 entered a plea of guilty. Expected to testify in the trials.
*Fredericka Carol Wagner (76/now 80) – 6/26/19 Charges were dismissed without prejudice.
 
  • #491
I'm not sure that knowing either family would, in and of itself, preclude a prospective juror from serving. Otherwise, they might not ever be able to seat a jury when the defendant is from Pike County. Does anyone know if there's a specific law on the books, or is it up to the judge's discretion? TIA
I agree, I do not think that just knowing of them could preclude a juror but lots of times it is felt if a juror knows anyone in the case including the judge, attorneys etc, that they may not be able to be fair. It would depend on what the relationship was they had with anyone connected to the case. It can be considered implied bias.
I should have elaborated on my previous post. Along with knowing the families or anyone in the case, there are other biases that are considered, that is just one of the big ones that I think could come into play that could impact seating a jury. I am speaking in general and in Ohio they have differnt considerations.
 
  • #492
I think it will be very difficult to seat a Jury in Pike County.
I believe, for the legal record, they have to try, and can be granted a change of venue only after it is apparent a 12 person Jury plus Alternates can not be seated in Pike County.
For discussion, Here is some information from Ohio Bar regarding Jury selection and service:


How are jurors selected?
In Ohio, persons are selected for jury service by random drawing from either a list of registered voters or a combined list of the registered votes and the list of licensed drivers residing in the county or city that the court serves.

What are the requirements for being a juror?
To serve on a jury, you must be a bona fide resident of the geographical area served by that particular court.
Ohio jurors must be at least 18 years of age and they must not have lost their right to serve on a jury by having been convicted of certain types of crime (or must have had those rights restored).

May I be excused from jury service?
The following persons can be excused from jury service:
members of cloistered religious orders;
people whose mental or physical condition renders them incapable of performing jury service,
whose spouse or near relative has recently died or is seriously ill,
whose jury service would cause them or someone in their care extreme physical or financial hardship, or who would be harmed or would harm the public by serving on a jury;
those who are older than 75 years of age;
those who are members of a recognized Amish sect; and members of the armed forces currently on active duty.
Even if you fall within one of these categories, the court must approve your excuse.

What happens when I appear for jury service?
When you arrive at the court, you are directed to a particular courtroom or to an assembly area.
Some courts provide a brief orientation talk or video to help explain the system.
During the jury selection process, all prospective jurors take an oath or agree to answer truthfully and fully answer the questions the judge and attorneys will ask.

The purpose of the questioning is to find out if there is some reason why it might be difficult for a prospective juror to be fair and impartial in the case to be tried.
As a prospective juror, you are introduced to the parties and the attorneys in the case and given a list of probable witnesses.
If you have some relationship to one of these persons, you might have difficulty considering the case impartially, and you will likely be excused from jury service for that case.

You are also told a little bit about the case so it can be determined if any past experience or bias might make it hard for you to be fair.
You also have an opportunity to tell the court about anything else that might impact your ability to sit as a juror, including health problems, employment situations and other obligations.
You have the right to respond to questions confidentially to the judge and attorneys, if you wish. Obviously, you must be truthful.

Generally, each side in a case has the right to ask that a certain limited number of jurors be excused without giving a reason (called a peremptory challenge). Each side also can make an unlimited number of challenges for good reasons (called challenges for cause).

When attorneys make these challenges, their intent is not to personally embarrass potential jurors, but to ensure that the jurors chosen will evaluate the case as fairly as possible for their clients.

What rules do jurors have to follow?
After the jury has been selected, the jurors must stand and take an oath or affirm that they will:
1) “well and truly” try the particular case for which they have been chosen;
wait until all the evidence has been heard before making up their minds; and follow all of the judge’s instructions about the law and procedures in arriving at a verdict.
The jury decides the facts from the evidence and the judge instructs about the law.
Jurors must pay attention throughout the trial and do their best to determine the credibility of each witness.
Jurors are not permitted to discuss the case among themselves or with anyone else until all evidence has been presented, the attorneys have made their closing arguments and the judge has instructed the jurors about the law that applies to the case.
Jurors may not independently investigate the matters involved in the lawsuit, and they may not discuss the case with anyone outside the courtroom until after they have deliberated in the jury room and arrived at a verdict.
This restriction includes any use of electronic technology to obtain information about the case or its subject matter, or to communicate with anyone about the case.
After the verdict, jurors are allowed to discuss the case if they choose.

# The above are selected snippets from the article.
If a change of venue is needed, I don’t know how it is determined what the next or new venue will be.
 
  • #493
Does anyone know if Judge Deering will continue to be the judge in GW4's trial if a change of venue is granted?
 
  • #494
I think it will be very difficult to seat a Jury in Pike County.
I believe, for the legal record, they have to try, and can be granted a change of venue only after it is apparent a 12 person Jury plus Alternates can not be seated in Pike County.
For discussion, Here is some information from Ohio Bar regarding Jury selection and service:


How are jurors selected?
In Ohio, persons are selected for jury service by random drawing from either a list of registered voters or a combined list of the registered votes and the list of licensed drivers residing in the county or city that the court serves.

What are the requirements for being a juror?
To serve on a jury, you must be a bona fide resident of the geographical area served by that particular court.
Ohio jurors must be at least 18 years of age and they must not have lost their right to serve on a jury by having been convicted of certain types of crime (or must have had those rights restored).

May I be excused from jury service?
The following persons can be excused from jury service:
members of cloistered religious orders;
people whose mental or physical condition renders them incapable of performing jury service,
whose spouse or near relative has recently died or is seriously ill,
whose jury service would cause them or someone in their care extreme physical or financial hardship, or who would be harmed or would harm the public by serving on a jury;
those who are older than 75 years of age;
those who are members of a recognized Amish sect; and members of the armed forces currently on active duty.
Even if you fall within one of these categories, the court must approve your excuse.

What happens when I appear for jury service?
When you arrive at the court, you are directed to a particular courtroom or to an assembly area.
Some courts provide a brief orientation talk or video to help explain the system.
During the jury selection process, all prospective jurors take an oath or agree to answer truthfully and fully answer the questions the judge and attorneys will ask.

The purpose of the questioning is to find out if there is some reason why it might be difficult for a prospective juror to be fair and impartial in the case to be tried.
As a prospective juror, you are introduced to the parties and the attorneys in the case and given a list of probable witnesses.
If you have some relationship to one of these persons, you might have difficulty considering the case impartially, and you will likely be excused from jury service for that case.

You are also told a little bit about the case so it can be determined if any past experience or bias might make it hard for you to be fair.
You also have an opportunity to tell the court about anything else that might impact your ability to sit as a juror, including health problems, employment situations and other obligations.
You have the right to respond to questions confidentially to the judge and attorneys, if you wish. Obviously, you must be truthful.

Generally, each side in a case has the right to ask that a certain limited number of jurors be excused without giving a reason (called a peremptory challenge). Each side also can make an unlimited number of challenges for good reasons (called challenges for cause).

When attorneys make these challenges, their intent is not to personally embarrass potential jurors, but to ensure that the jurors chosen will evaluate the case as fairly as possible for their clients.

What rules do jurors have to follow?
After the jury has been selected, the jurors must stand and take an oath or affirm that they will:
1) “well and truly” try the particular case for which they have been chosen;
wait until all the evidence has been heard before making up their minds; and follow all of the judge’s instructions about the law and procedures in arriving at a verdict.
The jury decides the facts from the evidence and the judge instructs about the law.
Jurors must pay attention throughout the trial and do their best to determine the credibility of each witness.
Jurors are not permitted to discuss the case among themselves or with anyone else until all evidence has been presented, the attorneys have made their closing arguments and the judge has instructed the jurors about the law that applies to the case.
Jurors may not independently investigate the matters involved in the lawsuit, and they may not discuss the case with anyone outside the courtroom until after they have deliberated in the jury room and arrived at a verdict.
This restriction includes any use of electronic technology to obtain information about the case or its subject matter, or to communicate with anyone about the case.
After the verdict, jurors are allowed to discuss the case if they choose.

# The above are selected snippets from the article.
If a change of venue is needed, I don’t know how it is determined what the next or new venue will be.
I also think it will be hard to seat one but they might pull it off for the first trial. BW may be the most likely to get a change of venue if one is seated for G4 in Pike. Their jury pool would then be even more limited for BW trial.
There have been motions filed in relation to the scheme of jury service in G4 trial. Deering did mention in a hearing they were working on some things to try to cut down on things that would prevent a person from serving or make it more strict that they show up. I think they said in court about 20-25 percent of jurors usually show up that are summoned.
 
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  • #495
Does anyone know if Judge Deering will continue to be the judge in GW4's trial if a change of venue is granted?
I think that he could move with the trial but I am not sure that always happens. I guess they could even bus in jurors from another county, not sure how often that happens eiher.
 
  • #496
So nothing from yesterday's questionnaire day 1? Any articles on what might happened? TIA!
 
  • #497
So nothing from yesterday's questionnaire day 1? Any articles on what might happened? TIA!
I am not sure if the lawyers or the defendant is in court while the jurors answer questionaires.
 
  • #498
I am not sure if the lawyers or the defendant is in court while the jurors answer questionaires.

okay... at least that is something to put in my notes! LOL! :D
 
  • #499
I think that he could move with the trial but I am not sure that always happens. I guess they could even bus in jurors from another county, not sure how often that happens eiher.
Good point. I was thinking they'd have to move the case physically to another county. It never dawned on me that they could possibly keep the physical trial in Pike County and just have the jurors from another county brought to the Pike County Courthouse.
 
  • #500
Good point. I was thinking they'd have to move the case physically to another county. It never dawned on me that they could possibly keep the physical trial in Pike County and just have the jurors from another county brought to the Pike County Courthouse.

A change of venue is the legal term for moving a trial to a new location. The trial would be moved out of Pike County. Jurors would be picked from the new County.


(B) Change of venue; procedure upon change of venue. Upon the motion of any party or upon its own motion the court may transfer an action to any court having jurisdiction of the subject matter outside the county in which trial would otherwise be held, when it appears that a fair and impartial trial cannot be held in the court in which the action is pending.

Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters offers …

Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters offers help in Pike County massacre trials. Says he expects changes of venue for murder trials (Nov 20, 2018)​


In Cincinnati, Hamilton County Prosecutor Joe Deters said he believes changes in venue are coming, and he offered help from his office if the state needs it.

Pike County Prosecutor Rob Junk said it could take several years for the capital murder cases to weave through the justice system.

"There is a lot of hard work ahead of us," he said. "I cannot emphasize that enough."

Junk said he intends to try all four cases in Pike County.

In Hamilton County, Deters has been watching with some skepticism.
 
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