OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #80

[sunshineray]

I don't see in the Order language about mistrial. Am I not looking at the right order?

mistrial was never brought up...in the public hearing this morning, not once did I hear it said.

 

[Dudly]

As the proceedings progress GWIV gets paler and his attorney get redder… MOO

 

[sunshineray]

As the proceedings progress GWIV gets paler and his attorney get redder… MOO

I know!!

 

[Pru2U]

What? It looks like they reversed most of it. They should have had enough time to do some research, right? SMH.

I don't watch a lot of trials (obviously, haha). Is this kind of thing typical or is it just another strange Ohio thing?

Local cable stations around here (TN) will show high profile trials. Holly Bobo's kidnapping/murder was one national news maker I've seen on local cable. I can remember them being broadcast on local cable as far back as mid 80's in Southern KY. But only the high profile ones.

This internet, the whole world wide exposure hasn't caught on in most courtrooms.

 

[arielilane]

I've admire the lovely and beautiful Lady Justice mural displayed @the Pike County Courthouse Courtroom. A classic.

 

[Pru2U]

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I don't see in the Order language about mistrial. Am I not looking at the right order?

Thank you! @PrairieWind , I didn't either.

 

[rsd1200]

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What exactly kind of 'danger' could JW possibly be in danger of (now or later)? Only people to get him would be in jail. Put him in solitary for goodness sake.

He's in no more danger than he was the first day he walked inside the doors of the institution, jm2.

 

[Kyshoegal]

Todd Dykes WLWT

Jurors just went to lunch. Toward the end of the morning session, Jake said it was his maternal grandmother's decision to confess to her role in forged custody documents that prompted Jake to do the same.

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After Rita Necomb (Angela Wagner's mom & Jake's grandmother) came forward, Jake Wagner said, "To me, it felt like it was the answer I was looking for at the time.. an answer from God."

Jake shared the regret he felt about the #PikeCountyMassacre during a brief convo w/ his dad, co-defendant Billy Wagner. Jake said he told Billy he "did not" feel regret, which Jake said today was not true. He said he told his dad this b/c he worried about Billy being suicidal.

Jurors also saw, for the first time, the weapons used when Jake says he and his family executed a plan to kill 8 members of the Rhoden family in April 2016.
I'll post images the jury saw - of the murder weapons - momentarily. My ace videographer
@VideomikeWLWT
is editing them as I type.

ALSO OF NOTE: Jake Wagner described being taught (pre-homicides) how to evade law enforcement when he & his family committed crimes. He said he was taught to be "respectful" of police but that he "was to hide something, to hide it plain sight."
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PERSONAL OBSERVATION: One of the strangest things I've deduced from Jake Wagner's testimony is how little it appears all 4 Wagner co-defendants talked about the #PikeCountyMassacre after it happened. Jake said they talked about the investigation, but that seemed to be about it (save for a few conversations here and there, like the one I mentioned a short time age between Jake & his dad Billy).. Talk about compartmentalization. #WLWT #PikeCountyMassacre

IMO I would think 1. The more you talk about the more you get comfortable talking about, and the more likely you are to make a mistake and say something in front of the wrong person. Never talk about something you don’t want anyone to know.
2. Talking about it just keeps it going. They probably wanted to forget about it and get it out of their mind. I can’t imagine living with that let alone talking about it.

 

[Betty P]

There ya go, I guess "they" like the status quo because anything more is going to open the courts up too much to liking of the judiciary...and you can't have confessed killers being put in danger in the big house...lest we forget that BIG parr if this morning's hearing. Opinions are all mine.

JMO, I think it was just the wrong solution for the problem. They wanted hearings, but they had no rules for how those hearings should work. Maybe it requires a legislative solution instead of a judicial one. How have they handled this in the past in Ohio courts? How do other states handle this? Just curious.

Just a guess, but the Appeals court used a precedent or something that worked in one situation, but was impossible to apply in another. IDK, IANAL.

 

[arielilane]

Not that it matters, but did they play musical chairs? Nash is sitting in Parker's seat?

 

[iulia]

Mr Nash seems stunned at the testimony. I wonder if that is a good thing for the prosecution..

ETA: approx 7h17m into the broadcast.
ETA 2: unfortunately my screenshot is too big and the small version I attached isn't too great. Too bad I don't know how to make a GIF, his reaction was priceless.

 

[Kyshoegal]

Why is everyone so bent out of shape about the testimony not being shown? I mean I’d love to see it, I have followed this case from the start and it’s actually how I found Web sleuths. I would love to see the crime scene photos, AW testify, and all the other goodies. I only turned tv on the last 5 weeks to see Jake’s testimony, but alas it’s the courts right not to air it and I don’t have to like it. It is what it is, and it’s not going to change despite out opinions so let’s move on

 

[Betty P]

I don't see in the Order language about mistrial. Am I not looking at the right orde

My mistake. I read it in a social media news account that mentioned mistrial. It doesn't mention mistrial.

It has now been reversed, sort of. The trial judge today talked of how he didn't know how to apply the decision. It required hearings, but had no rules of how those hearings were to be conducted, where, who attends, etc.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585310273870495758

 

[dgfred]

We are moving along... we just like to fuss a lot.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Everyday could be the last day for this coward. They are waiting for him. Someone wants to have there 15 minutes. Jmo

I don't condone sexual assault, rape, or violence, period. If the state wanted to put him to death, there's a right way to do that. They chose not to. MOO

 

[Betty P]

Mr Nash seems stunned at the testimony. I wonder if that is a good thing for the prosecution..

Yes, he is looking at the witness stand very intently.

Family of victims are shaking their heads, crying.

 

[justtrish]

@Kyshoegal well we have to discuss something since we can't hear what is said. We can analyze the defense and George and we get to see the judge bite his nails.. lol Once court is over and the afternoon tweets start coming in we'll move on to discussing that.

 

[rsd1200]

IMO I would think 1. The more you talk about the more you get comfortable talking about, and the more likely you are to make a mistake and say something in front of the wrong person. Never talk about something you don’t want anyone to know.
2. Talking about it just keeps it going. They probably wanted to forget about it and get it out of their mind. I can’t imagine living with that let alone talking about it.

Little pitchers have big ears. If they don't speak of it, no chance of the children over hearing.

 

[Betty P]

Looks like they're all leaving. Probably adjourned court for the day.

 

[PrairieWind]

My mistake. I read it in a social media news account that mentioned mistrial. It doesn't mention mistrial.

It has now been reversed, sort of. The trial judge today talked of how he didn't know how to apply the decision. It required hearings, but had no rules of how those hearings were to be conducted, where, who attends, etc.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585310273870495758

No problem. I think you probably pretty close to correct on the rest. The Appeals Court decision really didn't make much sense. The law allows witnesses to opt out. I've never seen a law like that, but that doesn't matter. The Appellate court put the burden on witnesses to assert that right. But further more, the motion was brought by media, non-parties to the case. And the issue is a decision made by witnesses, also non-parties to the case. The Appellate Court decision was threatening to derail or at least inhibit a major criminal case because of an argument between non-parties. I wonder if the Trial Court's attorney or someone from someone higher in the Ohio Judiciary didn't send them a message saying "what do you think you're doing?"