OH - Pike Co - 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue - 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #80

[sunshineray]

Did AC ever ask JW who wore which size of shoes? I'm not sure if I missed a tweet that mentioned that or if it was never asked.

Good question, I don't recall seeing mention of that in any tweets.

 

[Seattle1]

My mistake. I read it in a social media news account that mentioned mistrial. It doesn't mention mistrial.

It has now been reversed, sort of. The trial judge today talked of how he didn't know how to apply the decision. It required hearings, but had no rules of how those hearings were to be conducted, where, who attends, etc.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585310273870495758

Each side schedules its own witnesses for trial. Given the logistics of the aged, limited courthouse, why can't they hold the hearings in advance for witnesses that are opting out, and compliance with the order is done? I suggested earlier using one of the trial recess dates or a designated hour on a trial day to have the least impact on the trial schedule.

How frustrating this must be for all the participants affected including the families and jurors. MOO

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Jake's lawyers subpoenaed to a hearing on Nov. 28th @9am. Is this normal as part of a conspiracy trial or is this a trick or something serious? lol

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585412557803757573

I think this is where Jake's lawyers get told by Deering that as officers of the court they had a duty to report that their client confessed to criminal activity re: 8 murders.

And this is where Jake gets told he and mommy now gets that dreaded death penalty he sentenced his brother and father to.

ETA: filed today after Jake admitted he confessed to his lawyers long before he confessed to LE.

LMAO
JMO

 

[blackbeary]

I can see JW not wanting in published on the internet so that when SW is older she won’t be able to pull it up and see him say what he did to her family . IMO

It's important to the state that JW remains safe, there's another trial that he's required to testify at, he may have been made aware of his safety issues, and advised to opt out.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

10/26/2022

SUBPOENA ISSUED ON GREGORY W MYERS AND WILLIAM J MOONEY

So the subpoena must have been done this morning because I saw this on the docket before lunch break or just after lunch.

I assumed it was something to do with the hearing this morning so didn't look into it further. I didn't know this was Jake's attorneys, I thought maybe one of these people was the jailer they called to speak about Jake's safety or safety concerns. So this is actually the subpoena for Jake's attorneys and it was filed before cross started. Maybe it's just standard to have a hearing to review notes from a co conspirators lawyers if the co conspirator takes a deal?

Jake testified he confessed to killing 8 people to his lawyers long before he confessed to LE and the lawyers did not report the criminal activity. I think as officers of the court they are required to do this. I know that I am required to report criminal activity my clients admit to me as a CPA.

Maybe @PrairieWind can shed some light on this?
@PrairieWind are attorneys required as officers of the court to report criminal activity their clients confess to them?
JMO

 

[RAISINISBACK]

10/26/2022

SUBPOENA ISSUED ON GREGORY W MYERS AND WILLIAM J MOONEY

So the subpoena must have been done this morning because I saw this on the docket before lunch break or just after lunch.

I assumed it was something to do with the hearing this morning so didn't look into it further. I didn't know this was Jake's attorneys, I thought maybe one of these people was the jailer they called to speak about Jake's safety or safety concerns. So this is actually the subpoena for Jake's attorneys and it was filed before cross started. Maybe it's just standard to have a hearing to review notes from a co conspirators lawyers if the co conspirator takes a deal?

Those files could also be exculpatory evidence the prosecution knew about but did not turn over to the defense if Jake told his lawyers he killed all 8 and George did not plan, participate or cover up. Or a different version that Jake lied that Georges lawyers can show the jury. Seems they feel this case will go to November 28th anyway.

Again @PrairieWind I am sorry to keep bothering you but could this be why the subpoena I saw was issued today by George's lawyer Parker?

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Jmo but some of info coming from reporters are confusing. Some I read Jake says all three there then others speak of Jake and Billy. One stated Billy pulled over on way to Chris to make sure Jake wanted to do it and Jake said yes. Odd didn’t state he asked them both if they wanted to do it. Jmo then one stated all three in F in other states like only billy and Jake in F. But it just like when I heard testimony last week, I took it one way and others took it another way. Jmo

Jake has told so many lies that even the reporters and us can't keep up. We need a fact checker to compare all Jake's lies and try to match up the three words of truth in them.

I am confused too. Wonder if the jury is?

JMO

 

[RAISINISBACK]

https://twitter.com/jamespilcher


Quick recap of morning in George Wagner IV trial in Pike Co. Was in courtroom all morning with no phone. Judge ruled Jake could continue to opt out in morning hearing. Later the appeals court clarified its ruling from yesterday, saying people could continue to opt out

Jake retook the stand at about 10:30 a.m. and testified for 20 minutes before another delay - the fire marshall was called for possible overcrowding in the courtroom. Proceedings continued until 12:30 - and back at 1:45 p.m.

Highlights of today included seeing the actual murder weapons for the first time. Jake identified all the parts from all three guns he had cut up and that were recovered from the cement buckets in lake at Flying W ranch.

Jake testified he told his father he had no regrets about the homicides but that he lied because he didn't want his father to think he did something that wasn't worth it and then commit suicide.

He said he was arrested in November 2018. Soon after that, his grandmother Rita Newcomb recanted and admitted she didn't notarize the custody documents. He said that affected him and made him not want to lie anymore.

"It seemed like it was the answer I was looking for -- that it was an answer from God?" prosecutor asked. "It was what I was praying for." Rita had pleaded guilty in December 2019 - shortly thereafter, Jake confessed to his lawyers "to get it off my chest.”

Jake's lawyers eventually approached prosecution about possible deal - that was reached in March/April 2021. He actually entered his plea April 21, 2021 - the five year anniversary of the murders.

Jake told investigators where to find the murder weapons and then the truck they used - he knew his father had given it to his cousin Katie in Athens Ohio.

Items in those concrete buckets included not only the guns and parts, but live ammo for .40 caliber Glock, as well as 9 mm - the kind he used in the Beretta when he test fired the silencer that ruined that gun.

There was also a lot of discussion about what the two brothers talked about in the R&L truck we know was bugged. Jake admitted saying "I know you're listening Ryan" in the truck referring to lead BCI agent Ryan Scheiderer

He also recounted brother George getting a text from BCI with the picture of Jake holding the 1911 they recovered from the laptop. They then immediately called off work "for a family emergency."

Afternoon thread for Wagner trial with Jake on the stand. Defense got to cross examine starting at about 2:30 and went at him aggressively.

Defense lawyer John Parker in aggressive cross-examination trying to rattle Jake by asking how he felt “getting the best plea deal in the history of the state of Ohio.” Objection by prosecution, but later got it in. Jake: “I wasn’t aware it was the best deal ever.”

Parker also tried to get Jake to admit to moving the bodies of Chris Rhoden Sr. and his cousin Gary Rhoden. Jake didn’t change his story. But Jake also disclosed for the first time that father Billy also shot Frankie Rhoden after he did.

Jake also said that George Wagner initially didn't want to go along with murder plan and was reluctant to participate. But he said that he was unaware if George went along to protect Jake from his father Billy.

Jake said he saw Chris Sr. on floor and Gary in the recliner dead with shots to head when he went into trailer first time. When he went in second time, he said bodies were moved into bedroom.

Before cross, prosecutor Angela Canepa finished her direct by going through all of the plea agreements Jake had reached and he said he did so willingly. He also admitted asking Hanna to spy on George's ex Tabitha Claytor.

But he also said that the entire family helped plan, execute and cover up the murders, including his father, mother and brother George.

Rita had pleaded guilty in December 2019 - shortly thereafter, Jake confessed to his lawyers "to get it off my chest.”

Jake's lawyers eventually approached prosecution about possible deal - that was reached in March/April 2021

This.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

View attachment 375690

https://twitter.com/Angenette5

Sih-it'-sinke weh-ts'ah

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Where did it say that? I read the order and didn't see a reference to a mistrial

My mistake.

JMo

 

[SuziQ]

Talks about Jake laughing and belching....

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Had George taken a plea, he would not be facing the death penalty. He made the choices, first to go along on a murder rampage and then to go to trial instead of taking a deal.

Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, I think that is the way it is stated.

JMO

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Talks about Jake laughing and belching....

I said if he started that snickering and grotesque smiling in front of the jury they are not going to believe a word he says. And belching when talking about killing the woman he professed to love and wanted to come back to him?

And Canepa jumping up yelling Jesus? Wow.

Absolutely worth watching!!!!!!!!

LMAO

JMO

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Talks about Jake laughing and belching....

No wonder the victims families were shaking their heads in disbelief and crying.

Now we know why Nash looked so astonished also. He probably couldn't believe Jake was laughing and belching when he talked about killing Hannah May. Or that he was snickering when he talked about how he killed all the Rhodens and Hanna Hazel.

Wah-sa'ba sih-it'-sinke weh-ts'ah

JMO

 

[Ann99]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585408502285365249

 

[Ann99]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585419302941134850

 

[SuziQ]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585419302941134850

Oh dear, maybe JW isn't testifying to the states satisfaction?

 

[Ann99]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1585421405679939584

 

[Betty P]

Talks about Jake laughing and belching....

Yes, smiling inappropriately is very disturbing.

 

[Betty P]

Oh dear, maybe JW isn't testifying to the states satisfaction?

Something seems amiss. If he’s changing his story, it Could cause problems.