OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#40

[IQuestion]

What? I use Wonder Dust almost daily on a horse or a dog. I have it in my medicine cabinet, barn & always in my saddle bag.

LOL...but am still wondering why you would run out the door with over-sized shoes to get the garbage out? Just kidding, in reference to the shoe issue, of course. Yes, we have all done that, but we were not planning a mass murder in the process. I am still trying to figure out how this psychotic QUAD-SQUAD could be so delusional or brainwashed on a daily basis (at least for 4 months) to develop such loathing and hate for a family. The only conclusion I can come to is that JW had a huge negative influence on them and they fell for it, hook-line & sinker. IMO, it began and ended with him. Good night to all, IQ needing sleep.

 

[Dudly]

Interesting.
Why is it in my mind that only 2 she’ll casings were found?

GR's father said two kinds of shell casings were found in CRsr's trailer when he was interviewed.

 

[Myland]

BCI and AG DeWine have been in charge of the case. DeWine has too much riding on this case to allow it to be messed up. He probably knows every item of evidence, every detail an is in charge of all the storage, testing, etc. There's nothing to worry about. I used to have some doubts as well, but now that he's moved the case to arrest and prosecution, I no longer worry.

We can only hope. The article posted a few pages back stated Dewine and Reader worked side by side. Of course Dewine hasn’t been in pike county the entire investigation 24/7. Jmo

 

[Trudie]

GR's father said two kinds of shell casings were found in CRsr's trailer when he was interviewed.

Thanks Dudly. I didn’t want to go back thru links, lol.

 

[Betty P]

We can only hope. The article posted a few pages back in between the silly bed bug drama stated Dewine and Reader worked side by side. Of course Dewine hasn’t been in pike county the entire investigation 24/7. Jmo

I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't keeping most of the evidence in C-bus, overseen by his own staff. He has a legendary reputation for being risk-averse. My biggest concerns with him in the past were that he would let the case go cold.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

18 pieces of evidence....I think that is a no brainer....bullet casings that didn't fall into the brass catchers! Why you ask? Easy, the brass catchers were not made to hold 32 bullet casings...they spilled over because the catchers were full. IMO, duh. Or, the casing were hot and burned a hole in the kevlar fabric and some fell out of the hole? Just thinking out loud and hoping for other ideas. TYIA

Would it depend on how many brass catchers and weapons were used? If multiple weapons were used, it would make sense there were brass catchers on each one. With that said, multiple brass catchers could hold 32 casings. Of course that all depends on what types of gun(s) were used as well.

 

[IQuestion]

We can only hope. The article posted a few pages back stated Dewine and Reader worked side by side. Of course Dewine hasn’t been in pike county the entire investigation 24/7. Jmo

Agreed, DeWine hasn't been there the whole time. But over 40 agencies have had their representatives/agents there and in other locations for over 2 years. Although they work together, their development of evidence was specific to their area....and at the end of the day, they all pointed to only one group of suspects. How can anyone argue that point?

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I'd say without a doubt. If your life is on the line, via the death penalty, you can stitch and super glue yourself.

We use bag balm here at my home. On almost all wounds. That’s meant for cows udders and it works like a charm on human injuries, cracked skin, chapped lips, etc. Antibiotics that are used by veterinarians are most times the same given to humans.

 

[rsd1200]

I'm not in Appalachia but know people from there and know people like that and do not live there. I know people with junk cars on their property that fix them up and sell them. I know people that fish and hunt a lot. None of that makes them inferior to anyone else. They all work, pay taxes, believe in God, and have hopes and dreams like anyone else. But when my friend's wife says she is going to town to do the "tradin", you get reminded where they were from...

I understand. Because I am from the region, only south, across the river a piece, there are commonalities that this region's people shares, but we are all different too. I don't think I've ever implied that the Rs or HHG were inferior to anyone. I don't really have a problem with how grown adult's choose to live their life, so I just have no need to defend their choices, they were theirs, and I don't mean that snarky at all.

 

[Myland]

I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't keeping most of the evidence in C-bus, overseen by his own staff. He has a legendary reputation for being risk-averse. My biggest concerns with him in the past were that he would let the case go cold.

That would be the best scenario if all the evidence was taken to Columbus. Jmo

 

[Myland]

Agreed, DeWine hasn't been there the whole time. But over 40 agencies have had their representatives/agents there and in other locations for over 2 years. Although they work together, their development of evidence was specific to their area....and at the end of the day, they all pointed to only one group of suspects. How can anyone argue that point?

Well we can’t really argue the evidence doesn’t point to the W because the only evidence we have is in the form of an indictment which says they did. But there is an investigation currently in the county regarding the sheriff too. Jmo and with this wrinkle it may not be a slam dunk case like it should be if the W are guilty. Jmo

 

[pepper 34]

Deleted. Working AG link already provided.

 

[rsd1200]

Oh my Lord, a bed bug ridding application commercial is on t.v.

 

[Dontknow?]

It's too soon to convict the sheriff over what some anon is claiming. Also, very suspicious the W's had a plan to go after their jailers, prosecutors and whom ever else they could with dirt, Tammy Moorer did this too in SC, trashed the local police, prosecutors like a demon witch. It's a look over there ploy sometimes.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Why the Manleys? Why not CG? or AC and her family? There was history there, x2, and recent, too. It doesn't say how many pairs of shoes were purchased from Walmart, just that specific shoes were purchased there. What if they checked out all of the R's and HHG's, shoe sizes and that way the shoe prints would just mix in at each homeowner's?

Count 9;

Purchase leading up to the Aggravated murders/burglaries, including, but not
limited to; specific shoes from Walmart, "brass catcher(s)",items with which to build
brass catchers, ammo, a magazine clip, a "bug" detector,
and/or parts to build a "silencer(s)", and/or various other items in prep
of these crimes;

https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...BCI/Pike-County-Final-Autopsies-REDACTED.aspx

Why did the LEO start investigating the Manley out first, plus Jake was buddy up with James Manley, that how he might got the brand of boots they ware. JMO.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Why did the LEO start investigating the Manley out first, plus Jake was buddy up with James Manley, that how he might got the brand of boots they ware. JMO.

Could it be because the Manley’s were the ones to find the victim’s at the homes on UHR? Maybe LE wasn’t so much investigating the Manley’s but more so following standard investigative protocol and ruling them out? Another thing that’s interesting is LE I’d assume figured out early on that LM is a vocal soul. That makes me wonder what LE said to him on purpose in hopes he’d repeat in media interviews, in order to again make the Wagners feel secure and confident that they were getting away with murder. I hope this makes sense, it’s past my bedtime.

 

[Myland]

It's too soon to convict the sheriff over what some anon is claiming. Also, very suspicious the W's had a plan to go after their jailers, prosecutors and whom ever else they could with dirt, Tammy Moorer did this too in SC, trashed the local police, prosecutors like a demon witch. It's a look over there ploy sometimes.

I agree the sheriff is also innocent until proven guilty, but I also believe no judge signs off on a subpoena based solely on an anonymous complaint. Jmo

 

[pepper 34]

BCI and AG DeWine have been in charge of the case. DeWine has too much riding on this case to allow it to be messed up. He probably knows every item of evidence, every detail an is in charge of all the storage, testing, etc. There's nothing to worry about. I used to have some doubts as well, but now that he's moved the case to arrest and prosecution, I no longer worry.

I agree because DeWine was already aware of the troubles facing Sheriff Reader when the arrests and plans for prosecution were carried out. As was already pointed out by someone previously, the financial troubles were already an issue during the recent sheriff election and before the more recent anonymous complaint was made.
Link:
Pike County sheriff's race among dirtiest in Ohio

 

[rsd1200]

Why did the LEO start investigating the Manley out first, plus Jake was buddy up with James Manley, that how he might got the brand of boots they ware. JMO.

They normally always look at family first when there's no witnesses 1/4 of all murders are committed by family members. they'd been remiss not to investigate the family.

 

[Myland]

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