OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#40

[Myland]

bbm. Okay MYLAND, I can't help but ask, " Why you think a W or people loyal/ in the employ of W's are not behind the anonymous complaint? Frankly, I wish they were, because that information would be a lot less disturbing than hearing (physical?) threats were made against those discharged with the duty of protecting the public they serve. If the whistle-blower (as it were) is so concerned about the Sheriff's department, why not be named and claim a reward for uncovering public theft?
"Ohio Whistleblower Laws. A whistleblower is an employee who alerts the proper authorities and/or news outlets that the company is doing something illegal or otherwise against the public trust. Therefore, whistleblower laws are meant to protect employees from being retaliated against by their employers."
OTH, if the purposeful intent was to embarrass the Sheriff's dept while they are garnering national attention...mission accomplished. Normally, would this story in a county with only 28K residents, ever be more than a blurb in page 9 of a national newspaper? Sheriff R called for "outside help" within hours (if not minutes) of realizing the number of victims....so, with or without him.... other entities took charge of the investigation. His department neither possessed the budget nor the investigative resources to handle a massacre.

Jmo but I don’t think the investigation into Sherriff was started totally based on an anonymous source. JMO

 

[Myland]

If you're a local, why do you think the W family wouldn't commit these murders?

JMO, but it's possible some locals think wealthy people wouldn't stoop to such horrific crimes. Those who live on their land and pay rent or payments on land contracts may be unwilling to criticize them publicly. Employees of FW's various businesses may have a vested interest in denying their involvement.

Oh they could have committed these horrible horrible crimes. I don’t know if they did or didn’t yet. Jmo by the indictment it sounds like they did, but that is only one side Jmo

 

[iridized]

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Not only were the Rhodens painted as weed growing, dog fighting, gamecock owning backwoods hillbillies who may have been killed by a cartel, why not throw in some bed bugs just to come full circle and really make the public not care? JMHO.

As I recall, the bed bugs were not disclosed until months later, and by then we had a pretty good idea of the Rhodens and all their shortcomings. I don't think the bedbugs made them look any worse then they already did.

 

[Betty P]

Jmo but I don’t think the investigation into Sherriff was started totally based on an anonymous source. JMO

JMO, it's irrelevant to the prosecution of the Wagners for murdering the Rhoden family and HHG. A two year investigation involving more than a dozen agencies, hundreds of items of evidence, etc. have revealed they are the killers. The investigation into Pike Co doesn't change any of that.

 

[iridized]

JMO, it's irrelevant to the prosecution of the Wagners for murdering the Rhoden family and HHG. A two year investigation involving more than a dozen agencies, hundreds of items of evidence, etc. have revealed they are the killers. The investigation into Pike Co doesn't change any of that.

You are correct with that Betty P. The only issue will be if Reader is found guilty and then the possibility of tainted evidence comes into play (and not just in this case). Personally I think BCI handled most of the investigation so it should not be an issue. I know you have written often on here of corrupt LE in this area and am wondering what you think of Reader and his current predicament.

 

[Sleuthinsleuther]

You are correct with that Betty P. The only issue will be if Reader is found guilty and then the possibility of tainted evidence comes into play (and not just in this case). Personally I think BCI handled most of the investigation so it should not be an issue. I know you have written often on here of corrupt LE in this area and am wondering what you think of Reader and his current predicament.

I think reader and his staff committed these murders and they may be framing the w’s

 

[RAISINISBACK]

I think reader and his staff committed these murders and they may be framing the w’s

Can you please tell us why you think that?

JMO

 

[rsd1200]

Does anyone think Chris was suspicious of the W doing something maybe not murder, but causing some sort of actual harm? Jmo

No. I don't think that they were. They were caught completely blindsided. If they thought that something was going to happen, I think they would have been on high alert, and already fixin' to take care of the threat, should it arrive.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

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[RAISINISBACK]

Jmo but I don’t think the investigation into Sherriff was started totally based on an anonymous source. JMO

How do you think it was started?

 

[Trudie]

No. I don't think that they were. They were caught completely blindsided. If they thought that something was going to happen, I think they would have been on high alert, and already fixin' to take care of the threat, should it arrive.

Agree. That’s why I think custody is NOT the issue/motive. IMO
IMO, the motive arose from something the R family had NO idea the murderer/s knew......
But, thru the process of illegal surveillance, their secret was no longer secret.

 

[Charliegizmo49]

Maybe he pushed it open with his foot?

 

[Charliegizmo49]

Agree.

I am going to strongly disagree and go a step further. I not only think the Waggies will be found guilty it is my educated opinion they have allies watching and posting in their behalf.

Not necessarily here on WS and not any day or date in particular and that’s my opinion as well.


I also believe that the Anonymous complaint against Sheriff Reader is the first in a series of attempts to attack the lifestyle and credibility of officials who have been involved in the investigation of the Rhoden murders.

If “ anonymous is not identified and/or comes forward on their own the anonymous complaints will continue.

Every word my opinion and educated guess and conclusions.

Written with continued respect for everyone.

 

[ilovepierre]

Agree. That’s why I think custody is NOT the issue/motive. IMO
IMO, the motive arose from something the R family had NO idea the murderer/s knew......
But, thru the process of illegal surveillance, their secret was no longer secret.

IMO, custody is a motive, but not THE motive.
I don't have an idea what the motive is, but custody of course played a part in these murders.

 

[Trudie]

I am going to strongly disagree and go a step further. I not only think the Waggies will be found guilty it is my educated opinion they have allies watching and posting in their behalf.

Not necessarily here on WS and not any day or date in particular and that’s my opinion as well.


I also believe that the Anonymous complaint against Sheriff Reader is the first in a series of attempts to attack the lifestyle and credibility of officials who have been involved in the investigation of the Rhoden murders.

If “ anonymous is not identified and/or comes forward on their own the anonymous complaints will continue.

Every word my opinion and educated guess and conclusions.

Written with continued respect for everyone.

IMO, the W’s would have no problem inking their signature & wouldn't go so far as to pen anon’ letters.

I can’t even wrap my head around “friends” posting on any site, on behalf of victim or suspects. Me, I’d have to re-examine my “friends”.

 

[Trudie]

IMO, custody is a motive, but not THE motive.
I don't have an idea what the motive is, but custody of course played a part in these murders.

....yes, as we’ve been told, custody played a “part” or “role”.

 

[iridized]

I am going to strongly disagree and go a step further. I not only think the Waggies will be found guilty it is my educated opinion they have allies watching and posting in their behalf.

Not necessarily here on WS and not any day or date in particular and that’s my opinion as well.


I also believe that the Anonymous complaint against Sheriff Reader is the first in a series of attempts to attack the lifestyle and credibility of officials who have been involved in the investigation of the Rhoden murders.

If “ anonymous is not identified and/or comes forward on their own the anonymous complaints will continue.

Every word my opinion and educated guess and conclusions.

Written with continued respect for everyone.

But this wasn't the first allegation made against Reader. He ran for election shortly after the murders and there was a call for him to be investigated then. Pike County sheriff's race among dirtiest in Ohio

 

[Gracie55]

No. I don't think that they were. They were caught completely blindsided. If they thought that something was going to happen, I think they would have been on high alert, and already fixin' to take care of the threat, should it arrive.

I don't know if they were completely blindsided, but apparently they should've taken the W threat more seriously. No predicting some craziness.

It's hard to see into twisted hearts, but I think Ws were on a vigilante mission to capture S for their own, some reason maybe in their minds justifying the carnage.

What a shame to try to steal a child who will grow up to think what she wants.

I always celebrated the other grandmothers in my kids' lives. We share someone special and what a joy to work together to enrich our grandchildren's lives. Double the love.

Others want to possess. I never understood. Poor S ended up with neither parent and so much other damage to the families involved.

So tragic.

 

[Charliegizmo49]

Jmo but I don’t think the investigation into Sherriff was started totally based on an anonymous source. JMO

Gosh golly. Is it out if the realm of possibility. If you’re a local there was a Sheriff right before Reader who was accused as well IIRC.

Over the years I had to look closely at signed vs anonymous complaints. 100% if the anonymously submitted complaints were authored by persons or an individual with an axe to grind with the accused. Usually found to be mostly untrue the damage had been done to the falsely accused.

With the complaints signed and complainant identified 70-90% were proven to be correct and accurate overall

But families were broken and credibility destroyed so many times. Finally one case IIRC there was mediation involved to stop the false complaints.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

But this wasn't the first allegation made against Reader. He ran for election shortly after the murders and there was a call for him to be investigated then. Pike County sheriff's race among dirtiest in Ohio

Does he seem like he is well liked by the voters there?