OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#40

[MittenScarpetta]

The part about victim bashing toward the Rs.

It was widely reported there was a bed bug infestation.

A year after slayings, few answers in Pike County

Respectfully, that is how the journalist wrote the article. It’s never been stated by LE or a direct investigative source that any of the homes were infested. There was an invoice pulled from public records that showed a charge for bed bug treatment.

Respectfully, it was reported as “infestation” , on the local news stations, as well. Not as “trailer homes were ‘pretreated’ to prevent a future infestation.” MOO

My point is despite how it was reported, that has never been stated as fact by any investigative offices involved. Could they have been infested? Sure. Could the treatment also have been for preventive measures? Absolutely. No where on that public invoice obtained by the media did it say homes were infested. The media said that. The media is also notorious for sensationalizing information for ratings and viewers attention. COW.

Not only were the Rhodens painted as weed growing, dog fighting, gamecock owning backwoods hillbillies who may have been killed by a cartel, why not throw in some bed bugs just to come full circle and really make the public not care? JMHO.

As I recall, the bed bugs were not disclosed until months later, and by then we had a pretty good idea of the Rhodens and all their shortcomings. I don't think the bedbugs made them look any worse then they already did.

This is where it began. LE has never said the homes or one home was invested. LE simply provided an invoice that noted bed bug extermination as an expense incurred in the investigation.

And then a reply by @iridized stating “by then we had a pretty good idea of the Rhodens and their shortcomings. I don’t think the bedbugs made them look any worse than they already did.

I could reason with these statements if we were in 2016, in the months after the murders when little was known. Since then, there has been indictments and arrests as well as a partial motive stated by Dewine. Therefore, this comes off to me as victim slandering. What is the purpose of discussing these things that are at this point irrelevant to this case? It’s an honest question, no snark inteneded. I respect you immensely RSD and I appreciate all of your input. I am struggling to understand why all of the above is necessary now. That’s all. Personally, I believe we need to look at the W’s and their shortcomings. They’re alive. The victims are not. All of these things have already been discussed when revealed. I’m concerned about what the intention is of rehashing old news. I hope this makes sense and doesn’t sound rude. I’m being genuine. The media took an invoice and reported as they saw fit.

 

[Betty P]

I believe to keep them from getting trashed and to have them available for possible jury walk-through. If someone wanted to take the chance of trashing them inside of a warehouse, they would be filmed doing so and quickly arrested. Out on the properties it would be simple to sneak in from any number of angles and enter them for any number of reasons and not be noticed doing so. JMO.
ETA: Feigning carelessness is only something to consider. I doubt that was the purpose (a trick) as opposed to what I believe the "carelessness" actually was... just not worrying about the warehouse since anyone entering would be caught on video.

Well, if anyone tried to go into them to destroy or retrieve contents, they're probably on video. I kind of doubt that happened, as someone else mentioned upthread, the Wagners probably would have known the trailers would have security cameras around while in storage.

 

[Charliegizmo49]

LE didn't report it. A reporter found out, and posted the public receipts, for bombing the trailers. Reader even commented that the public didn't need to see that (that's what I felt he was referring to anyway). The W homes were not movable, bombed, sealed, and stored, as walk-thru evidence so the county won't be paying for treatments if the Ws had bedbugs. We only knew because of open records, imo.

One home was found with an infestation.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

They can hide for up to 5 months. So it’ll take till summer.

Lol

 

[Trudie]

Pike County: Wagner family arrested in the Rhoden family massacre

What is the “close business tie” between the R & W’s? I see this in a lot of articles. TIA

 

[Charliegizmo49]

This is where it began. LE has never said the homes or one home was invested. LE simply provided an invoice that noted bed bug extermination as an expense incurred in the investigation.

And then a reply by @iridized stating “by then we had a pretty good idea of the Rhodens and their shortcomings. I don’t think the bedbugs made them look any worse than they already did.

I could reason with these statements if we were in 2016, in the months after the murders when little was known. Since then, there has been indictments and arrests as well as a partial motive stated by Dewine. Therefore, this comes off to me as victim slandering. What is the purpose of discussing these things that are at this point irrelevant to this case? It’s an honest question, no snark inteneded. I respect you immensely RSD and I appreciate all of your input. I am struggling to understand why all of the above is necessary now. That’s all. Personally, I believe we need to look at the W’s and their shortcomings. They’re alive. The victims are not. All of these things have already been discussed when revealed. I’m concerned about what the intention is of rehashing old news. I hope this makes sense and doesn’t sound rude. I’m being genuine. The media took an invoice and reported as they saw fit.

Mitten.

Heavens. I learned today that Buckingham Palace was treated for bed bugs and Fleas. If the Palace can have them anyone can.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Pike County: Wagner family arrested in the Rhoden family massacre

What is the “close business tie” between the R & W’s? I see this in a lot of articles. TIA

I’d like to know this as well, Trudie.

 

[rsd1200]

I think all LE did an amazing job. Reading the CNN link of our first ( I think) detailed update reveals their accomplishments in a short amount of time.

I did not see them solving it this soon, tbh. I remember when he said this, and I thought, this could be a while. Many years.

This is not, while we use many of the tools that you see on TV, and we have great ability today, with tools that we did not have 10 years ago or 20 years ago or 30 years ago, a lot of what is going on here is just basic old-fashioned police work.

CNN.com - Transcripts

 

[Caylee Advocate]

I was thinking we put the bedbugs to bed.

JMO

Thank goodness. It just shows how desperate we all have become for fresh information to be released. MOO.

 

[rsd1200]

Pike County: Wagner family arrested in the Rhoden family massacre

What is the “close business tie” between the R & W’s? I see this in a lot of articles. TIA

I think they've edited that out. All I found was this, at the link, unless my eyesight is failing me.

Dismissed by DeWine and Reader was the theory that the slain Rhoden family members had a soured marijuana business relationship.

They also said they don't believe anyone else is involved.

 

[Trudie]

I did not see them solving it this soon, tbh. I remember when he said this, and I thought, this could be a while. Many years.



CNN.com - Transcripts

Maybe LE thinks the apparent resolution to be fast, too, considering what they were up against.
In the old articles, it appears everyone believed the suspect/s to be locals.

 

[Trudie]

I think they've edited that out. All I found was this, at the link, unless my eyesight is failing me.

Could be. Over the years, I’ve noticed it & I THINK heard a news teaser stating the same.

Four Wagner family members arrested in connection to the execution-style killings of the Rhoden family

It’s mentioned here, too.^

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Thank goodness. It just shows how desperate we all have become for fresh information to be released. MOO.

I agree.

 

[rsd1200]

Maybe LE thinks the apparent resolution to be fast, too, considering what they were up against.
In the old articles, it appears everyone believed the suspect/s to be locals.

I always thought it was locals, and someone who knew them very well, and had come to hate them. I still think that there's going to be more to it than custody. If only if it ends up being a control issue. Over S and H. That's what I meant about dragging my lawyer to court, I had a control issue with someone. The latter was the controlling, liar, who tried to appear all pious and holy and such, but got outed for what they were doing. It too was over a child. The circle of people I trust, is basically a dot, so we were ready.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

That is an interesting angle, Pepper. I’d never considered that but I do believe you have a very valid point. Do you think the W’s had the nerve to tamper with the crime scenes after they were placed in storage? These trials and the facts that emerge is going to be captivating.

yes I do think they would try to get back in those mobile homes if they lost something.

 

[Gracie55]

Self delete. Topic appears irrelevant to the stated motive at this time.

Not to beat a dead horse, but some household managers flip out at the mere mention of the unmentionable insects.

Their presence could well have contributed to a drive to "save" S, at least psychological state of mind making her removal from the R habitat seem imperative, along with other reasons like the pot grows.

While we intellectually "know" the insects don't respect social class, the gross out factor is high <modsnip>.

That said, I'm tired of talking about them too. They might or might not factor in. Maybe it was a proactive treatment to make sure insects didn't invade the storage barn, someone noticed the charge, and rumors were born.

 

[pepper 34]

Well, if anyone tried to go into them to destroy or retrieve contents, they're probably on video. I kind of doubt that happened, as someone else mentioned upthread, the Wagners probably would have known the trailers would have security cameras around while in storage.

Yes, I mentioned that, too. The W's would be the last people, imo, to approach the trailers knowing how easy it it to set up a camera in order to gain information about people!

 

[rsd1200]

This is where it began. LE has never said the homes or one home was invested. LE simply provided an invoice that noted bed bug extermination as an expense incurred in the investigation.

And then a reply by @iridized stating “by then we had a pretty good idea of the Rhodens and their shortcomings. I don’t think the bedbugs made them look any worse than they already did.

I could reason with these statements if we were in 2016, in the months after the murders when little was known. Since then, there has been indictments and arrests as well as a partial motive stated by Dewine. Therefore, this comes off to me as victim slandering. What is the purpose of discussing these things that are at this point irrelevant to this case? It’s an honest question, no snark inteneded. I respect you immensely RSD and I appreciate all of your input. I am struggling to understand why all of the above is necessary now. That’s all. Personally, I believe we need to look at the W’s and their shortcomings. They’re alive. The victims are not. All of these things have already been discussed when revealed. I’m concerned about what the intention is of rehashing old news. I hope this makes sense and doesn’t sound rude. I’m being genuine. The media took an invoice and reported as they saw fit.

My last post on bedbugs. I'm putting them to bed. Idgad if they had them or not. It's their living quarters not mine. I didn't pay their bills. The part that's bbm is the part that I missed. Other folks are allowed their opinion though. They're allowed to not want to live beside a car parts yard, with vicious pit bulls, (Per LM), and grow ops. Some of ya'll probably wouldn't care for how I live my life... but, if I was found murdered, I bet you'd still hunt for the person who killed rsd1200. At the end of the day, I care about making sure the right people, who murdered these folks, goes to prison.

They didn't deserve to be murdered, but that doesn't mean that it erases who they were. They lived life the way they wanted. Folks keep calling them poor, but I don't see that. LM? Yes. I see poverty there. There were, what, at least five initial suspects, or more, who may have had a beef with them? I can only think of two folks who might want me dead. So we all have our faults. Some care more about the Rs faults than others. Like me, it doesn't bother me one way or the other that they had junked cars or bedbugs, that's why I can discuss it. I don't think the Rs nor HHG, would really care what outsiders, or anyone, would have thought of their lifestyles, their accomplishments, or their faults. I'd like to have seen someone tell CR1 to clear out his parts yard... Ain't no HOA round there, nor here. Thank Heaven.

 

[ColMustard]

Try another one: GW3 Indictment - Count Nine

 

[Myland]

Well, if anyone tried to go into them to destroy or retrieve contents, they're probably on video. I kind of doubt that happened, as someone else mentioned upthread, the Wagners probably would have known the trailers would have security cameras around while in storage.

You may be right about the video surveillance, but The reporter didn’t seem to believe the trailers were too secure when he investigated them jmo