OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#40

[Trudie]

Idk, they don't get a lot of exercise in there either. She went in pretty well padded. No exercise can take a while for the pounds to start shedding. I'd say the family is probably putting a bit on her commissary though. Cheeto's, Doritos, Chocolate Chip Cookies, Salami Stix, all high in calories except for the handy stand-by, Ramen's! If convicted, she'll learn to cook with Ramen's. I'm sure there's preservatives and chemicals in all those things, unlike Defiance Farm Foods, but it's either that, dog food, or starve.

People should really think of the little things....prior to committing crimes.
Think, no more bubble baths? Never petting a dog, driving with your windows down, opening your own mail, no high thread count sheets (only used string sheets), no nothing.

 

[Trudie]

I bet you're about right. She's probably not allowed much movement (as in having a job) so eating, sleeping, t.v., and books, are probably her only comfort right now.

Books with missing pages, lol. Big thing for inmates to rip crucial pages out. Would that Suck? Read 411 pages & finally reach the “whodunnit” only to flip to page 537?

 

[rsd1200]

She did seem really stressed out today. Hopefully, her mother's attorney is discussing the details of the case with her. Assume he is since she lives with Fred W. Surely, he's given them an idea of what's going on, what to expect. Denial can be persistent, though, if she's lived a sheltered life and isn't familiar with the criminal justice system. Could be that her mom is also filling her up with a lot of false optimism, too.

But surely she has some idea of what to anticipate when she goes to these hearings. Maybe her mom is putting a lot of pressure on her or perhaps her mom's attorney isn't giving them enough information.

I doubt that the W4's attys are giving her, or anyone else, anything. That's not Kosher.

 

[Betty P]

Books with missing pages, lol. Big thing for inmates to rip crucial pages out. Would that Suck? Read 411 pages & finally reach the “whodunnit” only to flip to page 537?

I followed "Orange Is the New Black" for a few seasons on Netflix. It gave a pretty realistic view of minimum security prison and it was no picnic. I'm guessing county jail is even less so for the W's. Cramped, not very clean, etc. It's not like the Mayberry jail.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

She did seem really stressed out today. Hopefully, her mother's attorney is discussing the details of the case with her. Assume he is since she lives with Fred W. Surely, he's given them an idea of what's going on, what to expect. Denial can be persistent, though, if she's lived a sheltered life and isn't familiar with the criminal justice system. Could be that her mom is also filling her up with a lot of false optimism, too.

But surely she has some idea of what to anticipate when she goes to these hearings. Maybe her mom is putting a lot of pressure on her or perhaps her mom's attorney isn't giving them enough information.

I thought she looked stunned at that no contact order. It upset her, no doubt about that.

 

[Puzzles8]

Thanks. At this point we can only speculate. He could also have been referring to at least one of the incidents being Chris Jr's fight with the woman over road rage.

Interesting to go back and read these old interviews. More from the article



Who did they think knew something about the murders who wasn't involved? Wagners weren't talking to anyone outside their family, JMO. Or was that just a rhetorical statement trying to get more tips?

Reader also minimizes the relevance of the MJ grows and cars. This interview was just 6 months after the murders, so it was unlikely JMO that they were focused on the Wagners. They had only questioned JW once at that point.

Thanks for posting clips of these old articles. It is interesting to re-read old news articles in light of what we now know.
Interesting, sounds to me like Dewine just confirmed there were stolen cars at the R's. That opens up a whole new avenue of possible crimes. The sale of autos (used) keeps popping up.
MOO - I have always been curious about CRsr1's ability (I'm assuming) to issue and register temporary license plates. Before anyone asks me for a link, this is based on my memory only. Take it with a grain of salt!
Just my rambling, speculation and opinion.

 

[rsd1200]

Really, the phone no contact order is not enforceable, IMO.
AW can call RW, RW puts her phone on speaker, if FW, RN or any person gathered around wishes, they jot down a question, RW asks AW.
And, AW can tell RW “tell mom I love her” or other things to pass on, right?

It would be difficult. Inmates, at certain detention facilities, are not supposed to correspond anyway, nor talk on the phone to each other, yet, they do. All the time. Sometimes, on cellphones, that somehow get into the facility.

 

[Betty P]

I doubt that the W4's attys are giving her, or anyone else, anything. That's not Kosher.

Agree, but Fred's attorney probably knows some of what is going on. He probably also knows what to anticipate. Wouldn't he also be getting some information from discovery? Also assuming she follows the news. Even though he isn't revealing non-public details of the cases to RW, he could at least give her a more realistic idea of what to expect in the hearings. As much as any of the rest of us here can figure out, we seem to have a better grasp of the situation than RW.

JMO

 

[RAISINISBACK]

OMG. You are a genius. Messages could be transmitted via clothing. Wow! Never would have put that together. I wonder if prisoners could press the pause button. IDK.

I was thinking the same thing. If Billy's and the boy's attorneys have told them the same thing that Angie's attorneys claim to have told her, then that could be Robin's way of getting a message to them all that Angie cannot contact them.

I don't know. Maybe. There was certainly something odd about her writing on her pants. And if those are her only pair...

JMO

 

[Puzzles8]

You’d think any silencers left would have been trashed. Burned. Taken far, far away. I, too, think that was a huge mistake on their part.

Either a glaring mistake or someone took it for insurance. It still seems odd to me that it turned up 10/30/2018. I'm not aware of any search warrants on that date.
I think all involved realized by then that LE was closing in.
MOO

 

[RAISINISBACK]

Really, the phone no contact order is not enforceable, IMO.
AW can call RW, RW puts her phone on speaker, if FW, RN or any person gathered around wishes, they jot down a question, RW asks AW.
And, AW can tell RW “tell mom I love her” or other things to pass on, right?[/QUOTE]



BBM
That would be a violation of the court order. She cannot tell a third person to tell her mom anything.

JMO

 

[RAISINISBACK]

I was able to read it live while they were showing her. Not sure why she would be writing all that down when she can just come here or re watch the video online

To let Billy know when Angie's next hearing will be?

 

[JustaboyFromMS]

Just in case anyone missed it today.

 

[Betty P]

To let Billy know when Angie's next hearing will be?

If he's allowed to read the news or watch TV, he would have learned that information anyway. It was an odd thing for her to do, I'm not sure what to think.

Thanks for posting clips of these old articles. It is interesting to re-read old news articles in light of what we now know.
Interesting, sounds to me like Dewine just confirmed there were stolen cars at the R's. That opens up a whole new avenue of possible crimes. The sale of autos (used) keeps popping up.
MOO - I have always been curious about CRsr1's ability (I'm assuming) to issue and register temporary license plates. Before anyone asks me for a link, this is based on my memory only. Take it with a grain of salt!
Just my rambling, speculation and opinion.

A month after Reader's interview in Oct 2016, DeWine announced they were returning all the vehicles to the surviving family members. I've always assumed doing so meant none of them were stolen. They just may not have finished checking records on all of them when Reader gave his interview a few weeks prior.

Months later, surviving Rhodens to get vehicles back

 

[Cool Cats]

But can other family members pass on messages from her mother about her grandmother.

The reason I keep hammering on this is because it could be a way for the prosecution to put pressure on her.

Think about it. Angie's grandmother is very ill according to Rita. Wouldn't it be agony not to know if her condition is worsening or if she passes? Also not to know how Rita is doing.

They might be trying to put enough pressure on her that she breaks and starts talking.

JMO

It's my understanding, and Websleuth attorneys can give us the low down, but I think that the attorneys are allowed to find out the health concerns going on with the defendant's family.

For instance they could at least let her know the health status of her grandma and probably the health of other family members and in-laws. She can try to get personal information through her attorneys.
How successful she would be in doing that would be up to her attorneys.

I do know as fact that if a family member passes away an inmate is always notified whether in jail or in prison. Usually a guard will deliver the news and let the inmate know a counselor is available for them.

Or the inmate's attorney will be the one to break the news.

 

[Puzzles8]

Welp, that’s a very odd thing to do. I wonder what she’s writing that’s so important that she must write it on her pants? jmo

And those are her good pants. It speaks to me about how truly isolated from the world the W's are. If it were any of the rest of us, we would just google or watch a replay later. The information was not even that detailed.

 

[RAISINISBACK]

And those are her good pants. It speaks to me about how truly isolated from the world the W's are. If it were any of the rest of us, we would just google or watch a replay later. The information was not even that detailed.

BBM
And those are her good pants.
LOL. I laughed so much I couldn't even watch freaking Alabama cheat Clemson.

 

[Loomis124]

Same clothes every time. That has to be some kind of uniform she wears at work. I cannot believe she does not have any other clothes. And that cannot be her Sunday go to meeting clothes. Or maybe it is. I don't know. Poor Robin. I think her life has been turned upside down. I do hope the best for her.

Jmo

It will be

Thank you. This was the best audio, for me.
AW was on the verge of tears, near the end. Can her atty not position his chair elsewhere. Hate when they block the defendant.

I think the attorney does that purposely, and I think it should be stopped. What gives him the right? Why doesn't the camera owner own that right and place it on the defendant's FACE? My opinion.

 

[rsd1200]

People should really think of the little things....prior to committing crimes.
Think, no more bubble baths? Never petting a dog, driving with your windows down, opening your own mail, no high thread count sheets (only used string sheets), no nothing.

Amen. And can you get more depressing than dressing in orange every day, and looking at light gray, over dark gray walls, every day? ugh.

 

[rsd1200]

Books with missing pages, lol. Big thing for inmates to rip crucial pages out. Would that Suck? Read 411 pages & finally reach the “whodunnit” only to flip to page 537?

That would be it, the last straw, I'd hurt the person in charge of the library cart. Books would be my only way of maintaining sanity.