OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#41

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2 counts talked about in hearing today
 

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One lie accounts for count #2-----Felony 3rd degree perjury.

So how do they also get count #1 out of it? Count#1------Felony 5th degree obstructing justice.

If it's only one lie, is it standard to charge a person with 2 felony counts?

Any law clerks/attorneys out there?
The defense specifically asked the prosecutor today and she said yes count 1 and 2 is about the one lie
 
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The defense specifically asked the prosecutor today and she said yes count 1 and 2 is about the one lie
I am going to ask my attorney (get his opinion) why she is being charged for 2 felonies... Must be standard but doesn't make sense to me. Sounds trumped up.
 
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Is she being accused of lying about buying the BPV or is she accused of lying about the BPV's being taken during the search?

Lying about the latter doesn't make sense to me.
 
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The defense specifically asked the prosecutor today and she said yes count 1 and 2 is about the one lie
The judge even said the same statement is the basis for counts one and two jmo
 
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The defense specifically asked the prosecutor today and she said yes count 1 and 2 is about the one lie

Meh. The will rule on it later. No sense arguing about it today.

she's still going to be on house arrest
she is still known to have sat in a meeting listening to her family make plans to kill the AG & local sheriff and did nothing
her son, DIL and two grandsons likely brutally murdered 8 innocent people

She's not a good person, JMO. We'll see what develops, looking forward to hearing the state's argument and judge's ruling. Personally, I think it's theatrics and drama on her part and that of her attorney. :rolleyes: It's what they're paid to do.

JMO
 
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I am going to ask my attorney why she is being charged for 2 felonies... Must be standard but doesn't make sense to me. Sounds trumped up.

I had the attorney I date read the indictments (all of them), he thought the language is very odd. Remember, it’s like a DUI citation. Have you ever known a DUI not include at least one of these: resisting arrest, weaving, tail light out, failure to signal, license plate not illuminated, improper lane change........and on & on. One charge does not adhere so well. Moo
 
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Meh. The will rule on it later. No sense arguing about it today.

she's still going to be on house arrest
she is still known to have sat in a meeting listening to her family make plans to kill the AG & local sheriff and did nothing
her son, DIL and two grandsons likely brutally murdered 8 innocent people

She's not a good person, JMO. We'll see what develops, looking forward to hearing the state's argument and judge's ruling. Personally, I think it's theatrics and drama on her part and that of her attorney. :rolleyes: It's what they're paid to do.

We’re all entitled to our opinion.
Am I allowed to quote a post on a dif thread and paste here?
 
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I had the attorney I date read the indictments (all of them), he thought the language is very odd. Remember, it’s like a DUI citation. Have you ever known a DUI not include at least one of these: resisting arrest, weaving, tail light out, failure to signal, license plate not illuminated, improper lane change........and on & on. One charge does not adhere so well. Moo
you and I are on the same wavelength sometimes. I agree with you absolutely. They do this to get people to plead, is one reason.
 
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Meh. The will rule on it later. No sense arguing about it today.

she's still going to be on house arrest
she is still known to have sat in a meeting listening to her family make plans to kill the AG & local sheriff and did nothing
her son, DIL and two grandsons likely brutally murdered 8 innocent people

She's not a good person, JMO. We'll see what develops, looking forward to hearing the state's argument and judge's ruling. Personally, I think it's theatrics and drama on her part and that of her attorney. :rolleyes: It's what they're paid to do.
Sorry Betty not to argue but the defense also referenced Dewine basically not stating thing factually Jmo so if she was involved in that why is she not at least charged with it jmo
 
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I am going to ask my attorney (get his opinion) why she is being charged for 2 felonies... Must be standard but doesn't make sense to me. Sounds trumped up.

Without access to the evidence, it's impossible to say.
 
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A lot of purchases from Amazon....
Thank you Dudley! Do you also have access to the bill of particulars? If you cannot post on this open forum where on SM that you found FW discovery can you PM it to me? Thanks
 
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She was a bobble head today as she listened to the judge. If this is all the prosecutors have against her, I don't know what to think. I guess it would depend on how the question(s) were framed at the GJ. JMO

Does anyone else believe more charges could be filed against her, if she actively participated and/or was present in the revenge talk? This seems to be a more serious allegation.
It most likely is lack of evidence or they would jmo

IMO, to the contrary. Based on GJ facts I've read, the GJ is given the "minimum" evidence to secure an indictment. IMO, good, hard evidence galore is yet to come. Surprises with every hearing. Yay Yay
 
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I believe that LE discovered circumstantial evidence that FW was well aware of her fam's involvement in these murders. Therefore they are trying to charge her w/ anything they can. FW is a millionaire in her 70's w/ no arrest record. Worst case scenario she gets probation. JMO of course
 
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We’re all entitled to our opinion.
Am I allowed to quote a post on a dif thread and paste here?

I'm not a Mod, but if it's a thread from WS, it should be ok.
 
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Yes raising roosters for cockfighting.

Sheriff Reader

"This criminal activity, Reader said, was “minute” compared to their slaughter.


Regardless of their lifestyle, they were human beings,” he said. "

Human beings who didn't harm the W's and who didn't deserve to be slaughtered by them while they slept.

JMO
 
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A lot of purchases from Amazon....
Yes that is a lot of purchases, but remember she owns several businesses and that is a time span of 4 years. Jmo
 
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IMO, to the contrary. Based on GJ facts I've read, the GJ is given the "minimum" evidence to secure an indictment. IMO, good, hard evidence galore is yet to come. Surprises with every hearing. Yay Yay
yea, then if they don’t return an indictment, the DA goes to GJ again, with more, again.....sonon, until they get an indictment. Moo.
 
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