OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#45

[RAISINISBACK]

I just went back and checked. "We need to look AT all four corners of the indictment," Canepa said.

Ok I thought I heard something else but I was distracted when I listened to it. My bad. TY Loomis

 

[Tiff23fr]

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[rsd1200]

All FW needed to do was go to My eBay and click on her Purchase History. All of her purchases are there, along
with the date of purchase, cost, seller's name, item's picture, description and eBay item number. This information
is retained for years. JMO... FW is not being truthful and has much to hid...Again, JMO.

Or, if she is not internet savvy, (I know a lot of folks who can click and buy, but that's about it), then surely a relative, or legal aid, could be of assistance. PayPal has everything she should need too, if that's how she paid. I usually get emails too, thanking me for my purchase, its' shipping date, and when it arrived on my doorstep (right down to the time).

 

[Betty P]

It's all so possible.
Given what we have heard they began planning late 2015/early 2016. I wonder if as April rolled around they realized, they risked S going into foster until custody was completed if her and Jake had nothing legal on paper. As a last minute idea to remedy the possibility AW did these on April 3. Maybe a way to make it seem not specific to S, she had one done for B as well.
Don't know.. just tossing it out as a possibility.

Pardon if I'm misunderstanding, but why would S have gone into foster care? She was living with her mom and grandmother, well taken care of. Chris Sr had just bought the new home for all of them to live in. If JW wanted S. to continue to have a good life, he could have just NOT killed her mother, grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc.

But, yes, if he knew he was going to kill S's mom and her family, he probably wanted the forged guardianship papers to ensure he would easily gain full custody of S once her mother was dead.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Pardon if I'm misunderstanding, but why would S have gone into foster care? She was living with her mom and grandmother, well taken care of. Chris Sr had just bought the new home for all of them to live in. If JW wanted S. to continue to have a good life, he could have just NOT killed her mother, grandparents, aunts, uncles, etc.

Betty, you are misunderstanding. To clarify, I was referring to upon HR's death. After the murders were committed, and until custody could legally be established.
If you ever feel my words are intended to be disrespectful to the victims or their families, I encourage, invite and appreciate your request for further clarity.

 

[Betty P]

Betty, you are misunderstanding. To clarify, I was referring to upon HR's death. After the murders were committed, and until custody could legally be established.
If you ever feel my words are intended to be disrespectful to the victims or their families, I encourage, invite and appreciate your request for further clarity.

That's what I thought. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I already edited my comment above to suggest that. Yes, I agree, they created the forged guardianship document to aid the transition for him to get full custody once JW and his family had killed S's family. It makes you wonder why the forged the other guardianship documents.

 

[rsd1200]

Jmo It is odd the state says the hacking started (was it back in 2014) long before murders, with people in relationships sharing passwords with permission to sm accounts and other passwords what would the state use to prove hacking other than the IP address. Maybe they have them logged into Dr or Cr acccounts. Jmo or a message saying stay off my account Jmo

Idk if it is in effect, but I heard about something that could criminalize ordinary computer users for using shared passwords. May not be where they are going with the charge, but, in a case like this, I think they'll throw the kitchen sink at them.

 

[Tiff23fr]

That's what I thought. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I already edited my comment above to suggest that. Yes, I agree, they created the forged guardianship document to aid the transition for him to get full custody once JW and his family had killed S's family. It makes you wonder why the forged the other guardianship documents.

Possibly because they wanted it to look like "oh it was done for both our grandkids, something we all had talked about for a while". So S's didn't stand out.
Much like AC asking FW- you didn't buy one for Robin too?

 

[Loomis124]

Doesn't the indictment say they were forged on or around April 6?

Fortunately, we should learn these answers in July during RN trial.

Indictment says on or about April 3, 2016.

 

[Loomis124]

Checked meaning and:
The term is ordinarily included in the phrase within the four corners of the document, which denotes that in ascertaining thelegal significance and consequences of the document, the parties and the court can only examine its language and allmatters encompassed within it. Extraneous information concerning the document that does not appear in it—within its fourcorners—cannot be evaluated.

AC said in...
Not within.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Possibly because they wanted it to look like "oh it was done for both our grandkids, something we all had talked about for a while". So S's didn't stand out.
Much like AC asking FW- you didn't buy one for Robin too?

Rhodens where killed because the Wagners just couldn’t stand thinking that they got one over on them, (Jake full of jealousy and Rage, Angela was sneaky and Two Face, George 4th Though He Had to Prove Something, Big Billy Bad A$$ Wasn’t Bad As He Though After CR Supposed to Have Wiped Him A Couple Week Before the Murders, Fredericka the LandBearing, Loves to Be Feared and Woreshiped at the same time, Rita Newcomb did what she was told to do no matter what, JMO

 

[Betty P]

Rhodens where killed because the Wagners just couldn’t stand thinking that they got one over on them, (Jake full of jealousy and Rage, Angela was sneaky and Two Face, George 4th Though He Had to Prove Something, Big Billy Bad A$$ Wasn’t Bad As He Though After CR Supposed to Have Wiped Him A Couple Week Before the Murders, Fredericka the LandBearing, Loves to Be Feared and Woreshiped at the same time, Rita Newcomb did what she was told to do no matter what, JMO

And they all sat around fuming and scheming, watching Boondock Saints, convincing themselves the Rhodens & Hannah Gilley deserved to die.

 

[Caylee Advocate]

I rewatched the Oxygen series again this evening and caught a few "oops" that were not apparent to me the first time. I also seen 2 of the attorneys in town today, maybe they were visiting their client... dunno'.

Mr. Collins is currently representing a vice cop (*well former cop*) in some very ugly, nasty crimes. I just wonder how Billy was able to get him? I know he was court appointed but seriously, IMO Collins is an ace at creating reasonable doubt. Hope not if BW is in fact guilty though. SMH

 

[ColMustard]

Ebay doesn't keep purchase history available forever, but that's not to say their IT dept. couldn't pull it up. Right now, mine only goes back to 2017.

Still, there was time to fetch the receipts.

Most of the items shipped to me come with an invoice printed from a home printer, nothing even close to a store receipt. I could probably edit an ebay page to make it show anything I want. I've done it before as a joke, inserting friend's details into current news or technical articles. Once it's all done, hit print.

 

[ColMustard]

Rhodens where killed because the Wagners just couldn’t stand thinking that they got one over on them, (Jake full of jealousy and Rage, Angela was sneaky and Two Face, George 4th Though He Had to Prove Something, Big Billy Bad A$$ Wasn’t Bad As He Though After CR Supposed to Have Wiped Him A Couple Week Before the Murders, Fredericka the LandBearing, Loves to Be Feared and Woreshiped at the same time, Rita Newcomb did what she was told to do no matter what, JMO

Remember so many posters saying they thought the purchase of DR's home was a trigger? Ws could no longer claim inferior housing and a bad environment.

 

[ColMustard]

IMO
MOO

If you'll forge a child custody agreement, you won't bat an eye at forging an ebay receipt.

 

[Johnny B Bad]

Ebay doesn't keep purchase history available forever, but that's not to say their IT dept. couldn't pull it up. Right now, mine only goes back to 2017.

Still, there was time to fetch the receipts.

Most of the items shipped to me come with an invoice printed from a home printer, nothing even close to a store receipt. I could probably edit an ebay page to make it show anything I want. I've done it before as a joke, inserting friend's details into current news or technical articles. Once it's all done, hit print.

The State (AC) made it clear in court on March 28th that she didn’t care about the receipt now, AC just wanted to hear Fredricka to say she bought the Bulletproof vest, AC knows who bought the vest and that’s what the State wants to prove content of court for lying, that way they have Fredericka under control so they can prosecute the rest of the 4Wagners without having to fight Fredericka in the media, plus she can’t hire that sliver tongue attorney for Big Billy,JMO

 

[Johnny B Bad]

IMO
MOO

If you'll forge a child custody agreement, you won't bat an eye at forging an ebay receipt.

Hey ColMustard do you remember back in the summer of 2016 someone made a comment on the internet about Big Chris being shot thru a door a year before it came out to public? JMO I really think it was one of the 4 Wagners playing games, they really thought that the LE didn’t have any evidence on who killed the Rhodens family, that’s why the came back to Ohio, they went to Alaska thinking if while there they could flee to Canada if the LE started investigation on them and Canada will not extradite back to US on death penalty’s cases. JMO

 

[sunshineray]

Yes and yes

Ok thanks, I thought so. What an interesting pair they were. Just don't know quite what to think about all that. Time will tell.

 

[OhioBlues]

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