OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) - #24

[coastal]

Sheriff Reader debunks news story about raid

http://portsmouth-dailytimes.com/news/13451/foreclosing-on-opportunity

He claims the sheriff's department was there to tag and retrieve some inventory in relation to a series of lawsuits against Hadsell Chemical and Relevant Compounding. Ok.:thinking: Just a coincidence.

If the company goes into foreclosure, what happens to the Rhoden family trailers and other evidence?

This case is so unusual.

BBM. Wow:

>>>snip

“Jody Barr (Fox 19) of Channel 19 doesn’t know how to report the truth,” Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader said...

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Ouch.

It's interesting that the lawsuit Reader mentions working on is against Hadsell Chemical Processing, LLC; Relevant Compounding, LLC, and Bob Walden, Jr:

http://hadsellchemicalprocessing.com/

Hadsell Chemical Processing offers a full range of chemical processing services including tolling, milling, blending, drying, classification, and packaging and much more

http://npino.com/pharmacy/1497195895-relevant-compounding-llc/

Relevant Compounding Llc (RELEVANT COMPOUNDING LLC) is a Compounding Pharmacy in Waverly, Ohio...

Pharmacy - Compounding Pharmacy
Definition:
A pharmacy that specializes in the preparation of components into a drug preparation as the result of a Practitioner's Prescription Drug Order or initiative based on the Practitioner/Patient/Pharmacist relationship in the course of professional practice. A compounding pharmacy utilizes specialized equipment and specially designed facilities necessary to meet the legal and quality requirements of its scope of compounding practice.

Bob Walden, Jr, Owner, Relevant Compounding, LLC:

http://www.episcopalchurch.org/libr...hio-community-organizes-against-rx-drug-abuse

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...At about the same time, Bob Walton Jr. was connecting the dots.

A township trustee in Scioto County where the hills of Appalachia rise along the Ohio River, Walton saw burglary reports jump from the occasional smash-and-grab to nine and 10 break-ins a night. Ambulance squad calls showed a huge uptick in 20- and 30-year-olds going into respiratory arrest. White collar crime was on the rise, and more and more kids were coming to school hungry.

New pain clinics opened in the township and across the county. The number of prescriptions written for "hillbilly heroine" -- painkillers like Oxycontin and Vicodin -- skyrocketed. For the first time, unintentional poisoning -- nearly all from prescription drugs -- was the leading cause of death in Scioto County.

"What is happening here is immoral," said Walton, a member of All Saints, Portsmouth. "For the first time in my life, I truly believe in evil. I believe evil is at work here."

Walton's first effort in 2008 to address the problem of prescription drug abuse stalled. The Drug Enforcement Administration said they were focusing on the issue. Walton tried to quietly gather people to fight the problem. Some were interested; others preferred to ignore it. The DEA left town. It was hard to get any traction...

..."People are saying, 'Enough is enough,'" said Walton. "People are willing to stand up and say, 'No more. This cannot continue. We are taking our community back.'"..

(article continues)

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I do not mean to imply that any of these people are involved in the murders of the Rhoden family. The article about Mr. Walton goes on to describe his efforts to decrease prescription drug addiction in his community, including the creation of a task force:

. ..at 30 (organizations) and growing, includes mayors, sheriffs, addiction counselors, victims, prosecutors and federal drug agencies. Walton handles the logistics, and the group meets monthly at All Saints Episcopal Church...


Oxy addiction is a long way from growing a bit of weed in the back yard, though, so I'm sure it's just a coincidence that Mr Walton is storing Rhoden houses at his factory.
No, really.

 

[cujenn81]

BBM. Wow:

>>>snip

“Jody Barr (Fox 19) of Channel 19 doesn’t know how to report the truth,” Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader said...

<<<snip

Ouch.

Wowzers.


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[RAISINISBACK]

I wonder why this was all done at nite? Sounds like daytime work to me. And I don't recall Jody specifically stating that he was certain this was related to the Rhoden case.
And here's this chemical company, obviously tied up in some type of disagreement among the owners, or something similar. And not only is it serious enough for one said owner to have all of HIS belongings removed, but serious enough that it must be done late at nite?
Really confusing. Makes me think this chemical company may not have co-owners much longer, or they are having financial problems. Business isn't really my thing, so I'm pretty much guessing.

“I received a Writ of Possession for personal property in a civil case from Lori D. Meyers, ETAL versus Hadsell Chemical Processing in Waverly, Ohio,” Reader said. “I got a Writ of Possession for personal property which ordered me to go to that place and to levy upon and tag the goods in this Order of Execution to satisfy payment of the plaintiff’s judgment against the defendant, Hadsell Chemical Processing, LLC, Relevant Compounding, LLC and Robert W. Walton, Jr. debtors for comp3ensatory damages pursuant to the terms of the Judgment Entry against the defendants.”

Actually it sounds like a divorce case to me where a spouse thinks the other spouse is hiding assets. Where the judge ordered a spouse to turn over a list of assets and they refused to do so and the judge then ordered all company records seized to determine assets.

Or a lawsuit because someone was injured at that company. Same thing, a seizure of records to determine assets.

 

[rsd1200]

Yes, EM, drugs are also hard on the skin. Wasn't trying to blame everything on alcohol, but that was the first thing that came to mind. I don't know if Meranda ever stated why she decided to go home. Donald stated he decided to stay with his girlfriend instead of going to Kenny's.

P.S. I'm 99% certain all the personal phones were confiscated as evidence the day of the murders. And, I would think that any call or text that came in could be traced to the cell tower from which it was sent.

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According to when FR's ex brought their child by to spend the night, MG may have seen that they had company there and just decided to drive on home.

 

[rsd1200]

I've been puzzling this case, off and on again, as usual.

SR's comment ran across my mind :

"Stacie Rigsby, added: "If it is a family member they should pay just like anyone else.".
KR says:

Kendra Rhoden, has always maintained that the killers are walking among them still. ....She, like investigators, remains confident that people have vital information about the slayings.

"It was definitely someone who knew them,'' she said back in July and continues to believe that.
Kendra: "If a family member could do this, well they aren't family ... Justice will find you always.
"It may take awhile,'' she added. "But justice always finds you."
__________________________________________________________
I guess I'm just odd, but, even if I thought it, I'd have said something more along the lines of , I don't wish to comment on my family at this time. It's just led me to believe that they may know more than we think. They may have even shared it w/LE already, but, I just find the comments odd. Even if I knew that one of my family members had some part in a crime, I'd not feel comfortable sharing that in the newspaper. Again, that's just me. Everyone is different. It could also be why the babies are not w/the families. If KR & her Momma are talking about a scenario with family members, or someone well-known to them, as assailants, that right there could be enough to keep the children away from potential fall out.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...ed-rhoden-case-have-not-been-candid/94294522/

 

[wlb22]

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...e/news-story/1b45bdf93e2acea8da0a4701357cbfb0

Two of the victims, police have not revealed which, were shot nine and seven times respectively, compared to others who were shot between one and three times

Shot 7 times? Does it make sense?

CR1** 9
HG**** 5
KR***** 1
FR
CR2
DR
HR
GR

This is the first I've seen that HG was shot 5 times...she seemed to me to be almost an innocent bystander...why 5 times? It seems to me she was the brunt of something. That would seem to revolve around FR..was someone jealous she had him...jealous of the child they shared or very angry with him so punishing him by killing her so savagely?

 

[glf]

A few months ago, I made the comment that maybe she had broken up with somebody she had been dating for quite a while when she met Frankie. A jealous old boyfriend could have very well been involved.

 

[jk204]

This is the first I've seen that HG was shot 5 times...she seemed to me to be almost an innocent bystander...why 5 times? It seems to me she was the brunt of something. That would seem to revolve around FR..was someone jealous she had him...jealous of the child they shared or very angry with him so punishing him by killing her so savagely?

5 according to her mother as reported by Chris Graves in story "is my little girl dead"

 

[jk204]

I've been puzzling this case, off and on again, as usual.

SR's comment ran across my mind :

"Stacie Rigsby, added: "If it is a family member they should pay just like anyone else.".
KR says:

Kendra Rhoden, has always maintained that the killers are walking among them still. ....She, like investigators, remains confident that people have vital information about the slayings.

"It was definitely someone who knew them,'' she said back in July and continues to believe that.
Kendra: "If a family member could do this, well they aren't family ... Justice will find you always.
"It may take awhile,'' she added. "But justice always finds you."
__________________________________________________________
I guess I'm just odd, but, even if I thought it, I'd have said something more along the lines of , I don't wish to comment on my family at this time. It's just led me to believe that they may know more than we think. They may have even shared it w/LE already, but, I just find the comments odd. Even if I knew that one of my family members had some part in a crime, I'd not feel comfortable sharing that in the newspaper. Again, that's just me. Everyone is different. It could also be why the babies are not w/the families. If KR & her Momma are talking about a scenario with family members, or someone well-known to them, as assailants, that right there could be enough to keep the children away from potential fall out.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...ed-rhoden-case-have-not-been-candid/94294522/

I think it's significant of something. Not sure what. To say this means a lot of confidence. Is there a video I want to see body language

 

[jk204]

SLR's comment almost calls for a surrender. It takes a form of authority, or at least courage to say it.

Compare it with the statement of her son LR, I posted earlier on this thread. He said people are too scared to talk. His mother has more courage then he does, or he wasn’t speaking his mind.

 

[jk204]

Re: SR quote.

Kendra R seems also comfortable when she says "They aren't family". Who could say this openly of another family that would be under suspicion. I can't imagine how they would feel.

Especially of a killer that murdered 8.

I remember the court decision: "The Court believes the danger of harm to the children is not reduced by the passage of time" and Reader's comment about a 9th victim.

It looks to me, a lot of people are scared of the killer but she is not. I don't know what it means.

 

[jk204]

This is the first I've seen that HG was shot 5 times...she seemed to me to be almost an innocent bystander...why 5 times? It seems to me she was the brunt of something. That would seem to revolve around FR..was someone jealous she had him...jealous of the child they shared or very angry with him so punishing him by killing her so savagely?

What tells you HG was a bystander?

My gut feeling tells me this case is all about mothers. It's about feelings, hormones, sex or sins.

Just have a look at the list of witnesses in this case. Most of them are women.

 

[glf]

Wlb, I think you might be confused on the # of shots. Chris was shot 9 times, one shot in the arm, 6 shots to the torso, and 2 to the head. Nobody was said to have been shot 7 times.

 

[Canaille]

This article states how many times each victim was shot, but it doesn't state who. I seem to recall an article that had the list of names and number of shots, but I'm guessing it got pulled since portions of the autopsy reports were redacted.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wa...ssacre-one-victim-shot-9-times/?client=safari

 

[rsd1200]

This is the first I've seen that HG was shot 5 times...she seemed to me to be almost an innocent bystander...why 5 times? It seems to me she was the brunt of something. That would seem to revolve around FR..was someone jealous she had him...jealous of the child they shared or very angry with him so punishing him by killing her so savagely?

I'd heard she was shot five times, before. I think that CR1 was shot 9 to stop him as it was all center mass (then the head shots). It still seems to me that we had a more confident shooter, and a less confident shooter. One that just did over-kill b/c of their inexperience with shooting (or they weren't as comfortable killing as they thought they'd be, but, they were there and had to go along) and one who was cool with it all, did the job and moved on.

 

[rsd1200]

I think it's significant of something. Not sure what. To say this means a lot of confidence. Is there a video I want to see body language

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No video. I just would not make any statements regarding "family", or alluding to "family" . We just wouldn't do that. Unless I knew for sure that my family member walked in there and shot someone in the head, nope. Even in that case, I'd say zip to the press.

 

[Elley Mae]

I'd heard she was shot five times, before. I think that CR1 was shot 9 to stop him as it was all center mass (then the head shots). It still seems to me that we had a more confident shooter, and a less confident shooter. One that just did over-kill b/c of their inexperience with shooting (or they weren't as comfortable killing as they thought they'd be, but, they were there and had to go along) and one who was cool with it all, did the job and moved on.

bbm I thought he was the one that took shots to his extremities.

 

[Elley Mae]

The autopsy report for Christopher Rhoden, Sr., said he was shot in the head, torso and extremities. The report does not specify if he was shot in the arms or the legs or both. It does indicate fractures to his skull and vertebra, but what that means is not entirely clear.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2016/09/23/pike-county-ohio-killings/90923772/

Dana Rhoden was shot in the head and in the neck, according to the report.

Gary Rhoden's autopsy report also indicates his skull was fractured.

Days after the slayings, that office said all but one of the victims were shot multiple times. Neither that office nor the redacted reports list by name how many times each victim was shot, except for Kenneth Rhoden. He was shot once in the head.

some but not all.

 

[Canaille]

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No video. I just would not make any statements regarding "family", or alluding to "family" . We just wouldn't do that. Unless I knew for sure that my family member walked in there and shot someone in the head, nope. Even in that case, I'd say zip to the press.

Seriously... i must be losing my mind. Wasn't there a video interview with Kendra and her mother? Or just a printed version that included a photo of the two? (Note to self: do not start following cases unless you are going to print/save/download every single thing when it's released) I need to make a library for myself.

 

[Elley Mae]

> One victim with a single gunshot wound
> One victim with two gunshot wounds
> Two victims each with three gunshot wounds
> One victim with four gunshot wounds
> Two victims each with five gunshot wounds
> One victim with nine gunshot wounds

http://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/rhod...-pike-county-massacre-multiple-gunshot-wounds