OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #32

[rsd1200]

But would she not have advanced after basic training which is usually six months? Wonder what her specialty was and why she never advanced? Unless she did advance and was demoted back to an airman for some reason?

Her parents are from OH. I am pretty sure she was born in OH in 1970 so that puts her graduating around 1988 give or take a year. I'm thinking she did what a several folks did around here, during h.s. Talked to a recruiter and joined up for the min. of two years. That puts her at around twenty, getting out.

I don't think that she met GWIII in Fla, where I'm thinking she served (I could be wrong about the location though). GWIV is the eldest, and he was born in Ohio when she was or 20-21, and she studied Elementary Ed at an Ohio University, so if my cipherin' is correct she served for two and came back to Ohio, got married, went to college, raised, (and home-schooled, iirc), her boys.

 

[rsd1200]

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Saw this today, and found it interesting. We have been told, via DS, through the media, that Brownie had to be restrained, when LE came to KR's camper. LE has neither confirmed nor denied. Obviously she had no problem with DS. So that dog, out of all the dogs, at least barked/growled, or did something, to cause DS to have to restrain her. It's been said there were two dogs at DR's, (I've seen a pic of a what looks to be a Boxer mix w/HMR, iirc), and we know there were two dogs at CR1's. Animals are unpredictable.

Would your dog stop a burglar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcp9TzEPywg

So I got curious;

Trained LE Dog vs Household Dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_TINv4TKhk

Inside Edition; Would your dog protect you from an attack?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ74oFctP_g

 

[Sillybilly]

Personalizing against other members is not allowed. Just don't do it !!

:wave:

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Here are a couple more links for people to contact, email, etc to encourage someone to feature the Rhoden Massacre on a investigation tv show.

Investigation Discovery has a new cold case show

https://corporate.discovery.com/dis...tigation-discoverys-series-breaking-homicide/

Marcia Clark's new tv show

https://www.aetv.com/shows/marcia-clark-investigates-the-first-48

Thanks, Betty P!

 

[GoBuckeyes]

But would she not have advanced after basic training which is usually six months? Wonder what her specialty was and why she never advanced? Unless she did advance and was demoted back to an airman for some reason?

Basic training, depending on the branch of service, is 8-13 weeks. Only some, not most, recruits are promoted to E-2 upon completion of basic. Most are promoted after completion of 6 months post-basic training, during which time many are still in their specialized training school that follows basic training.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Betty Hubby uses a Glock 40 for work and has a laser light for it although he does not use the laser at work. He said wherever the red light falls is where the bullet goes. No extra skill needed in confined spaces, in fact a laser makes it much easier to hit what you aim at. He has training though.

Hubby says it is simple to attach and remove, no skill needed for that.

As an aside Betty, Hubby has said from the beginning that former or current LE or military were involved in the crime. I disagree but have often thought about AW being prior military. We have no way of knowing what her job was in the military or if it involved weapons training or attack planning.


JMO

All military personnel are trained on several types of weapons and must meet a level of proficiency before graduating basic or being commissioned, in the case of officer training. Training varies widely after that initial proficiency level is established, depending upon the specialization/job to which one is assigned.

 

[Dudly]

May I also add, yes, from what we know JW, put the crib together 2 days prior. But we also know that he and his family didn’t attend the funerals. That also speaks volumes.

I guess my point is, IMO JW says one thing but his actions have said differently at times.

I avoid funerals if at all possible. Not sure him not being there means anything nefarious...

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I avoid funerals if at all possible. Not sure him not being there means anything nefarious...

I do as well, but IMO there are some funerals that you really can’t avoid. The entire W family avoidance of the funerals could mean absolutely nothing and could very well be that that they don’t attend funerals. I guess my point is, their statements don’t match their actions. JMO.

 

[Bootsctr]

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Saw this today, and found it interesting. We have been told, via DS, through the media, that Brownie had to be restrained, when LE came to KR's camper. LE has neither confirmed nor denied. Obviously she had no problem with DS. So that dog, out of all the dogs, at least barked/growled, or did something, to cause DS to have to restrain her. It's been said there were two dogs at DR's, (I've seen a pic of a what looks to be a Boxer mix w/HMR, iirc), and we know there were two dogs at CR1's. Animals are unpredictable.

Would your dog stop a burglar?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcp9TzEPywg

So I got curious;

Trained LE Dog vs Household Dog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_TINv4TKhk

Inside Edition; Would your dog protect you from an attack?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ74oFctP_g

Oh my! Enjoyed watching all of those videos! I own a black lab, so I have no grand delusions about her being vicious and biting someone if they actually broke in. She would probably help tote out the goods or lick you to death. But, she would bark and I encourage her to bark. And, one time, a couple of traveling salesmen who were selling steaks stopped at my home and I let her out the back door. She came around the corner of the house barking and hair raised(we get vacuum cleaner salespeople too), the guy at the door spotted her and took off running. She loved that he ran and she chased him. I have a feeling that it was more of game for her than serious business. The last video, Inside Edition, was good because it did show the chihuahua and the other mixed breed dog actually attacking the intruder. I would never tell anyone that my dog won't bite because honestly I really don't know. Better safe than sorry! Sorry for OT, but back to Brownie. That dog sounds like she would have attacked someone to protect KR. I wouldn't risk it unless I knew the dog and he/she knew me. I do find it interesting that DS was able to control Brownie because I am left wondering who else would be this close to KR that the dog would allow inside the trailer to kill him. ?

 

[rsd1200]

I do as well, but IMO there are some funerals that you really can’t avoid. The entire W family avoidance of the funerals could mean absolutely nothing and could very well be that that they don’t attend funerals. I guess my point is, their statements don’t match their actions. JMO.

I will say, that I have heard conflicting stories, some saying that they were seen there, and some saying that they weren't. Maybe only one or two went, but the rest didn't and it was such a huge crowd that some didn't see them. Same with a very long time employer, and friend of the family, who some say didn't show either. Strictly hearsay, on both, idk which is fact or fiction.

FWIW and it is in no way meant to be derogatory, to the family, but, sometimes, when the word "drugs" are involved, some folks just won't go, I've noticed missing faces at more than one friend's funeral. Let it be a known drug dealer, and/or addict, and take note of the missing holier-than-thou, faces, who claimed to be their friends, after the sun set.

 

[rsd1200]

Oh my! Enjoyed watching all of those videos! I own a black lab, so I have no grand delusions about her being vicious and biting someone if they actually broke in. She would probably help tote out the goods or lick you to death. But, she would bark and I encourage her to bark. And, one time, a couple of traveling salesmen who were selling steaks stopped at my home and I let her out the back door. She came around the corner of the house barking and hair raised(we get vacuum cleaner salespeople too), the guy at the door spotted her and took off running. She loved that he ran and she chased him. I have a feeling that it was more of game for her than serious business. The last video, Inside Edition, was good because it did show the chihuahua and the other mixed breed dog actually attacking the intruder. I would never tell anyone that my dog won't bite because honestly I really don't know. Better safe than sorry! Sorry for OT, but back to Brownie. That dog sounds like she would have attacked someone to protect KR. I wouldn't risk it unless I knew the dog and he/she knew me. I do find it interesting that DS was able to control Brownie because I am left wondering who else would be this close to KR that the dog would allow inside the trailer to kill him. ?

BBM
That's been on my mind since he told that story. I've wondered if KR either allowed them in, and either gave Brownie and "okay" command, or, she knew them somewhat, so thought it was okay, or, it was actually someone that Brownie was around all the time, and had no reason to be suspicious of them.

I've got two little dogs. They bark if a butterfly lands on the driveway. More than likely if they talked sweet to them, one would warm right up, and the other would be a bit suspicious, but wouldn't bite. I've got a 100+ pound, Rott, who is fairly protective of me. Like your Lab, if I encouraged her, she'd go, I do believe, b/c she's got that guardian nature. I have her trained with hand, and verbal, commands. I have not, however, trained her to be an attack dog. She's friendly, but, she is leery of some strangers, and some she's not. There was this car that pulled up, one day, that we didn't recognize, and she kept them in that car. Hackles up! They backed it out and drove off. I figured if she didn't like them, it was good enough for me. We have a Beware of Dog sign, and, like you, I never tell anyone that my dogs won't bite. They are animals and ya just can't say for sure.

 

[Nickandnora]

Oh my! Enjoyed watching all of those videos! I own a black lab, so I have no grand delusions about her being vicious and biting someone if they actually broke in. She would probably help tote out the goods or lick you to death. But, she would bark and I encourage her to bark. And, one time, a couple of traveling salesmen who were selling steaks stopped at my home and I let her out the back door. She came around the corner of the house barking and hair raised(we get vacuum cleaner salespeople too), the guy at the door spotted her and took off running. She loved that he ran and she chased him. I have a feeling that it was more of game for her than serious business. The last video, Inside Edition, was good because it did show the chihuahua and the other mixed breed dog actually attacking the intruder. I would never tell anyone that my dog won't bite because honestly I really don't know. Better safe than sorry! Sorry for OT, but back to Brownie dog . That dog sounds like she would have attacked someone to protect KR. I wouldn't risk it unless I knew the dog and he/she knew me. I do find it interesting that DS was able to control Brownie because I am left wondering who else would be this close to KR that the dog would allow inside the trailer to kill him. ?

I believe DS was able to control Brownie because he was at KRs frequently, working on cars, sleeping over also looking for handouts.
Many dogs are not friendly with LE they always say it is the uniform and hat. I have a dog that hates people with hats or hoodie on, take them off and he is completely a different dog, KR2 has brownie now and I have heard has bit a couple of people.

 

[rsd1200]

I believe DS was able to control Brownie because he was at KRs frequently, working on cars, sleeping over also looking for handouts.
Many dogs are not friendly with LE they always say it is the uniform and hat. I have a dog that hates people with hats or hoodie on, take them off and he is completely a different dog, KR2 has brownie now and I have heard has bit a couple of people.

I believe you may be right about the uniform, and DS. It seems that it is true as to what's been said, that Brownie is a biter, if she's bitten a couple folks while with KR2. Although I guess it could be adjustment issues too, but, still, it also seems to make it lean more heavily that she doesn't like different people and situations too. Just me, but I lean toward either KR called her down, or, she was just very comfortable with whoever came into his home that night. KR and Brownie just throw me off on this case.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I avoid funerals if at all possible. Not sure him not being there means anything nefarious...

I think many people are with you on avoiding funerals. I do, too, but there is a ring of my inner circle that, once it reaches that close, I force myself to go. I don't recall if there were calling hours/a wake before the funeral. If so, did JW and family attend? Thanks in advance.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I believe DS was able to control Brownie because he was at KRs frequently, working on cars, sleeping over also looking for handouts.
Many dogs are not friendly with LE they always say it is the uniform and hat. I have a dog that hates people with hats or hoodie on, take them off and he is completely a different dog, KR2 has brownie now and I have heard has bit a couple of people.

NickandNora, my pit bull LOVED, LOVED, LOVED everyone, except for people wearing a hat. I always wondered what that was about. Do you know enough about your dog's history to know why that's a trigger for your dog? TIA

 

[Hapworth]

This old article has a lot of insight about BJM and many other things as well. There’s actually a lot of insight to be read here. I don’t believe her intellectual level is what would be considered average and is more so a little delayed. And that’s okay! But it could explain why they all tried to help her-because the family knew and understood her needs.

https://hazlitt.net/murder-union-hill-road

Wow. That’s some article!


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[Dudly]

BBM
That's been on my mind since he told that story. I've wondered if KR either allowed them in, and either gave Brownie and "okay" command, or, she knew them somewhat, so thought it was okay, or, it was actually someone that Brownie was around all the time, and had no reason to be suspicious of them.

I've got two little dogs. They bark if a butterfly lands on the driveway. More than likely if they talked sweet to them, one would warm right up, and the other would be a bit suspicious, but wouldn't bite. I've got a 100+ pound, Rott, who is fairly protective of me. Like your Lab, if I encouraged her, she'd go, I do believe, b/c she's got that guardian nature. I have her trained with hand, and verbal, commands. I have not, however, trained her to be an attack dog. She's friendly, but, she is leery of some strangers, and some she's not. There was this car that pulled up, one day, that we didn't recognize, and she kept them in that car. Hackles up! They backed it out and drove off. I figured if she didn't like them, it was good enough for me. We have a Beware of Dog sign, and, like you, I never tell anyone that my dogs won't bite. They are animals and ya just can't say for sure.

We had a Beagle mix when I was a kid. There were only 2-3 people that dog did not like. One we had to pen her up when he was there. It ended up that the dog was correct every time. The man the dog hated the most was the biggest crook of them all...

We only have DS saying that Brownie had to be restrained when the LEOs arrived. I'm not sure I believe anything he says about that day...

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I will say, that I have heard conflicting stories, some saying that they were seen there, and some saying that they weren't. Maybe only one or two went, but the rest didn't and it was such a huge crowd that some didn't see them. Same with a very long time employer, and friend of the family, who some say didn't show either. Strictly hearsay, on both, idk which is fact or fiction.

FWIW and it is in no way meant to be derogatory, to the family, but, sometimes, when the word "drugs" are involved, some folks just won't go, I've noticed missing faces at more than one friend's funeral. Let it be a known drug dealer, and/or addict, and take note of the missing holier-than-thou, faces, who claimed to be their friends, after the sun set.

I agree. I have only seen the statements saying they weren’t there or “I don’t think so”. Deciphering the hearsay from fact in this case can get tricky because there has been so little released and there has been so many articles, but a lot of them have had implications that simply weren’t true, eluding to different things that the writer was trying to get across.

S/N I miss Jody Barr!

 

[MittenScarpetta]

We had a Beagle mix when I was a kid. There were only 2-3 people that dog did not like. One we had to pen her up when he was there. It ended up that the dog was correct every time. The man the dog hated the most was the biggest crook of them all...

We only have DS saying that Brownie had to be restrained when the LEOs arrived. I'm not sure I believe anything he says about that day...

Personally, I don’t believe DS would have lied in his statement about Brownie having to be restrained when LE arrived, only because LE watch family statements and easily could’ve called him out for lying. Now, don’t get me wrong, I question a lot about that day and statements made, I just don’t think the dog statement was false because it’s one that could be easily discounted by officials. Making a false statement like that would surely raise the eyebrows of investigators, wouldn’t it?

On the other hand, what are the chances LE has coached some of the interviews family has given? Is that possible?

 

[MittenScarpetta]

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...mily-campaign-against-gun-violence/569804002/

In an effort to combat gun violence, a Baltimore artist has produced a painting of the eight members of the Rhoden family slain in Pike County two years ago.

"Occasionally, if a story from another state wrings my emotions with more intensity than usual, I feel compelled to take the time and pour what ability I have into a painting that tells their story," Sheridan said. "No matter who you were, or what people say you did, no one deserves to get murdered. And this case being unsolved makes the drive to help them tell their story even more compelling."