OH - Pike County: 8 People From One Family Dead As Police Hunt For Killer(s) #36 *Arrests*

[evelezrn]

But at

at the local Walmart multiple people are saying there is no way the Wagner’s did it. So see u hear both ways

So are you saying you are a local? Just curious.

 

[IQuestion]

Was Fredericka’s husband in a nursing home prior to dying? Was it in Peebles?

Myland, bbm. I get the feeling you are asking questions YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWERS, TO??? Why? Just provide a link please. Unless of course, you are saying 8 people were killed because FW's husband wasn't cared for in the manner his family approved? BTW...I am not going down that rabbit hole....
PS...being in a nursing home prior to dying, is probably a lot better than being in a nursing home after dying!
edited to add morose levity.

 

[pepper 34]

Oh PEPPER, you are a scamp!!! Yah, yah, I know it well. Men with small feet have little toes, right?

Yes, that's it

 

[MittenScarpetta]

I’m thankful LE doesn’t solve cases based on rabbit holes and Walmart gossip. JMO.

 

[pepper 34]

Myland, I get the feeling you are asking questions YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWERS, TO??? Why? Just provide a link please. Unless of course, you are saying 8 people were killed because FW's husband wasn't cared for in the manner his family approved? BTW...I am not going down that rabbit hole....

I took a small peek down that rabbit hole because I remembered reading:

“Everyone just huddled around the TV,” said Courtney Ward, who worked with Dana Rhoden at a nursing home in neighboring Adams County.

Dana Rhoden was much loved at the small nursing home, where she was known as a hard worker who doted on her patients.

“She was just a wonderful, wonderful person,” Ward said.

Link:
Custody dispute played role in killing of Rhoden family, officials say

"Dana Rhoden worked full-time as a nursing assistant at the Hillside Skilled Nursing and Rehab Center in Peebles, which is about 10 miles west of her home.

Matthew Smith, the center’s administrator, said she had worked at the 49-bed facility since October and called her “a kind and caring worker” who was loved by patients and co-workers alike."

Link:
EXCLUSIVE: 'Ain't got no revenge in our hearts,' Pike Co. family says

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Re George and Tabi, child custody.
Adams County Common Pleas Court - Record Search

OH - Pike County: 8 People From One Family Dead As Police Hunt For Killer(s) #35 *Arrests*

I had a hunch that custody of GW4’s minor child may have played a role on why he was back here. His sm has a photo of him that appears to be in Alaska around the beginning of
October with a comment from AW stating she would see him the next morning.

George Wagner

 

[almond]

OH - Pike County: 8 People From One Family Dead As Police Hunt For Killer(s) #35 *Arrests*

I had a hunch that custody of GW4’s minor child may have played a role on why he was back here. His sm has a photo of him that appears to be in Alaska around the beginning of
October with a comment from AW stating she would see him the next morning.

George Wagner

Good hunch. bal*y suggesting that the Momma needs to be evaluated.
Is that the photo on sm of him in a dress shirt and slacks? I've wondered why he was spiffed up. Possible a church function?

 

[MittenScarpetta]

Good hunch. bal*y suggesting that the Momma needs to be evaluated.
Is that the photo on sm of him in a dress shirt and slacks? I've wondered why he was spiffed up. Possible a church function?

He may have been going to church. I hope he brought his Sunday best back to Ohio with him. He’s going to need it for his trial.

 

[gizmobtj]

I’ve seen that “sketch” as well. Not anything I put credit in. What I’m trying to relay is the new owners of the vehicle used by the W’s that was sold to said new owners after the murders. I accidentally gave the wrong info anyways cause I’m frazzled today.

What I should have said is there’s a public share from last Wednesday. Type in the nickname that Angela’s Wagner’s first name sometimes could be, second part is like Fort Bragg minus the Fort, last and third name is like Chanel, delete the L and type a Y.

Well, that was interesting.

Does anyone know if the Wagners owned or had possession of a Ford Excursion at the time of the murders?

Edited: Scratch that. I see the link in a latter post

 

[IQuestion]

I'm surprised the Moderators haven't intervened on some of these recent discussions. There are supposed to be links to articles with claims made unless they are stated as opinion. Rumors are getting brought into the discussions. New posters need to read the Terms of Service.

DUDLY Thank you for the reminder. My earlier post on "damage/changes/marks" on bullets found during an autopsy was from the Dana Ewell murder case in which home-made silencers were used in the murder of Glee, Tiffany & Dale Ewell. I am sorry that I did not originally attach a link. I just wanted fellow sleuths and readers to know, LE can tell a lot about a bullet and attachments to the weapon, even if they do not have the actual device. I believe LE knew something was not right about the bullets, ie, something other than discharge of a weapon without attachments. Attachments alter bullets, and perhaps that info was kept quiet until the "attachments" were found on Oct. 30th.
It was on Forensic Files-Season 11, Episode 40. Narrator:
"
And the bullets looked like they had been fired

through more than just the barrel of a gun.

-These bullets went through something

that marked then unlike any normal gun barrel.

And it could be a flash suppressor, sound suppressor,

silencer or something along that line."
Forensic Files - Season 11, Ep 40: Two in a Million with English subtitles (closed captions) and transcript

 

[Hapworth]

Delete

 

[rsd1200]

He may have very small feet. You know what they say....

I know, right?!

 

[Wild Rose]

Maybe they all bought the SAME shoes to throw LE off on how many people there were?

IMO maybe they bought moccasin slippers from Walmart. For all that sneaking creeping behavior they were planning. I wear a pair, they don't make a sound unless I drag my feet. Mine do have a pattern on the soles though.

 

[gizmobtj]

You do need evidence to support what you're suggesting. It's how things work in this forum, and in real life.

Actually, I am not sure everyone should give short shrift to someone of Myland's points. I can see how they would be interrupted as stirring the pot or being an apologist for the suspects.

But Myland's points are probably similar to the defense attacks on a case like this -- and the burden of proof will fall on the prosecution. All the defense needs to do is build doubt by throwing paint colors on the wall and seeing what sticks.

While it seems as if law enforcement has evidence against the Ws, I would never bet against a strong defense attorney blowing up a good case, especially if the cases hinges less on physical evidence and more on circumstance, such as motive, means and opportunity.

 

[Myland]

Myland, bbm. I get the feeling you are asking questions YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWERS, TO??? Why? Just provide a link please. Unless of course, you are saying 8 people were killed because FW's husband wasn't cared for in the manner his family approved? BTW...I am not going down that rabbit hole....
PS...being in a nursing home prior to dying, is probably a lot better than being in a nursing home after dying!
edited to add morose levity.

Not saying that all. Just wondering why Wagner’s took him out of the county when they live ten minutes from from two nursing homes. But now I think about it may be West Union where he was.

 

[RickshawFan]

Could someone please explain what a silencer is and how it’s put together? What does it look like? I’m having a hard time guessing what this “stuffing” might be.

 

[MittenScarpetta]

A quick search of the local probate site shows that GW3’s father passed away at home, per his death certificate that was filed with GW3’s estate claim for a large sum of life insurance. FW’s attorney I believe stated FW cared for her husband until he died (if I’m remembering correctly). JMO, but GWjr was not in a nursing home and was at his residence on CC road (aka Flying W Farms) during the last years of his life.

 

[RickshawFan]

But at

at the local Walmart multiple people are saying there is no way the Wagner’s did it. So see u hear both ways

The pop psychology term for that is “denial”, IMO. Not wanting to see the obvious because it would upset their worldview.

 

[Myland]

The pop psychology term for that is “denial”, IMO. Not wanting to see the obvious because it would upset their worldview.

My response was to the report as to what a local barber said. As if that was the county view and I was trying to show you hear both ways.

 

[RickshawFan]

In the ad Angela Wagner wrote up to sell the vehicle she claims all the seat covers are leather. If true, that's going to make blood clean up pretty hard. You could clean the surface of the seat but the stitching and on the leather below the stitching... not so good. The rugs and below the rugs on the actual floor... internal surfaces of doors, deep in where any screws attach the doors... stupidity is using a vehicle like that to commit murder in the first place. I was generous and supposed there were some brains involved... I assumed a pickup truck, using only the bed of the pickup truck to transport the actual killers, was used. Later, you could clean that with bleach and a high powered hose. Still, you might miss some blood that way. But, I never dreamed anyone was idiot enough to use a vehicle like the one they did. And, not just one idiot but here, you have four of them.

I don’t really understand this vehicle and blood in the vehicle topic. Are y’all surmising the perps jumped in the truck after the murders and had blood all over their clothes? And the blood seeped into the upholstery?