GUILTY OH - Sierah Joughin, 20, Fulton County, 19 July 2016 #9

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  • #661
I missed today. Wish they had the videos. I herd these dudes were just as creepy as his other friends and the defense was just a joke.

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  • #662
I missed today. Wish they had the videos. I herd these dudes were just as creepy as his other friends and the defense was just a joke.

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It's shocking, that this was the entire defense.
JW is potentially facing the death penalty. He passed on a deal. He presents a couple of creepers in his defense... and that's it?

It seems that he would rather trade his life than just own up to what he did. That amazes me.
 
  • #663
Any estimations on how long deliberations will take??

I don't anticipate it taking the Jurors long for a verdict but with all the charges the paper work can take a bit.
 
  • #664
It's shocking, that this was the entire defense.
JW is potentially facing the death penalty. He passed on a deal. He presents a couple of creepers in his defense... and that's it?

It seems that he would rather trade his life than just own up to what he did. That amazes me.

As with most Capital cases, it's my opinion that they go to trial with overwhelming evidence just to get a mistrial, or basis for state funded appeal (s), on what happens during the case as far as evidence. I also am disappointed that the judge said what hotel they were staying at. If media interference happens, more than one of the jurors might be disqualified. I just don't think that was a good decision by the judge to announce it.
 
  • #665
Many a case Defense is short due to all the evidence the State has. Last thing Defense wants to do is bring attention to State's evidence. All they can do is see to it he gets a fair trial. If this Jury finds him Guilty of aggravated murder then typically Defense has more to add at Penalty phase. Harping on mitigating factors. Then they will be fighting for his life. As much as I hate it! IMO
 
  • #666
Yeah I am shocked as well it was announced where Jurors will be staying.
 
  • #667
Were Jashrema and lcat there today? I would like to get some more info about this defense.

And agreed, Dixie, I don't get why the judge would have named the hotel either.

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  • #668
It makes me sick to my stomach to know one of people who is testifying for the defense. I really wish they could live stream for the rest of the trial. I wonder if they will be able to have live feed for the verdict?

Who is it? I don’t mean to be nosey... just wondering if I know them?


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  • #669
I can only remember 2 places in Wauseon that had rental cars. I can't recall if there was one Delta.

Sometimes collision repair and/or mechanical repair shops set up rental cars. Just a possibility.


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  • #670
Lauren Lindstrom@lelindstrom 1m
Defense rested its case a short time ago after calling two witnesses, both friends of Worley's who were familiar with his motorcycle and engine shop. Story from me coming shortly on http://toledoblade.com . #WorleyTrial


Brian Koeller@nwseditor5m
Defense called 2 witnesses today, both 40-Year friends of Worley. Both rode motorcycles with him. One says a few years ago he bought the helmet that has been entered as evidence in the case, added it was new at the time & did not have blood on it.#WorleyTrial



Brian Koeller@nwseditor1m
Second witness said he rode motorcycles with Worley, up to summer of 2016. Said Worley did have mechanical problems with motorcycle, but could usually get it going. Also said he saw marijuana drying in a barn on Worley property & watched 🤬🤬🤬🤬 videos w/ Worley #WorleyTrial


Brian Koeller@nwseditor1m
Closing arguments expected to begin Monday morning, case to jury by noon. #WorleyTrial

How were either of these witnesses helpful to the defense? Are they setting JW up to be able to claim he didn’t have a sufficient defense so he can get a new trial?


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  • #671
It's shocking, that this was the entire defense.
JW is potentially facing the death penalty. He passed on a deal. He presents a couple of creepers in his defense... and that's it?

It seems that he would rather trade his life than just own up to what he did. That amazes me.

I’m VERY interested in what the plea deal was??

Did he have to admit to his “other crimes” and that’s why he passed it up?

Is the plea deal still on the table?


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  • #672
I have a very very ignorant question.

I know men watch 🤬🤬🤬🤬, but to watch it together with another man!? I didn't think men did stuff like that together.

Are these two people just to raise reasonable doubt that another dude did it..ADDI... or they were involved. Which in my state would not matter in the least.

Or perhaps they were subpoenaed just because he was angry with them and he wanted to out them and throw them under the bus? Or at least the second person. How was either of their testimony helpful to the defense?
 
  • #673
I’m VERY interested in what the plea deal was??

Did he have to admit to his “other crimes” and that’s why he passed it up?

Is the plea deal still on the table?


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I am too.

http://www.wtol.com/story/37101797/attorney-asks-for-delay-in-james-worley-murder-trial

He cannot change his mind about not taking the deal at this point. He passed on it, that's that. I think, however, that the State can re-offer it, if they choose to, or make a new offer entirely.
 
  • #674
I have a very very ignorant question.

I know men watch 🤬🤬🤬🤬, but to watch it together with another man!? I didn't think men did stuff like that together.

Are these two people just to raise reasonable doubt that another dude did it..ADDI... or they were involved. Which in my state would not matter in the least.

Or perhaps they were subpoenaed just because he was angry with them and he wanted to out them and throw them under the bus? Or at least the second person. How was either of their testimony helpful to the defense?

I could see teen boys sneaking and watching together but not grown men. BUT the kind of 🤬🤬🤬🤬 that was being watched is NOT normal for anyone to view and enjoy, IMO. That’s very weird to me. Just another point to show he is a sick sick human, if you can even call evil like that human.

I’m baffled as to what the point was to the testimony today. I’m sure if we heard the testimony in it’s entirety it may make more sense?!?!?! Maybe they think when he is found guilty they can ask for him to be sent to a psychiatric facility if he doesn’t get the death penalty?? IMO that’s a long shot though.

It’s hard to get into a mind that evil.


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  • #675
I am too.

http://www.wtol.com/story/37101797/attorney-asks-for-delay-in-james-worley-murder-trial

He cannot change his mind about not taking the deal at this point. He passed on it, that's that. I think, however, that the State can re-offer it, if they choose to, or make a new offer entirely.

Ok I wasn’t sure if he passed on it or just never answered.

I just read the article... I wondered why the defense never called their “expert witness” but they had intended on calling him during the sentencing phase, correct? Is that when the rest of their witnesses that were on the list will testify also? IE his sister?

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  • #676
Wow just 22 minutes for the Defense! I don't know why that shocks me but it does ! But IMO just another great sign that justice will be served for Ce!

Re: car rental stuff from Delta.. please tell me someone else here remembers seeing info we dug up long ago here ..we had found a business page for JDW s place and the description he had entered under services offered also included providing rides/taxi like services for the airport , and there is a missing woman from Michigan who was killed or still missing ?? (Damnit I can't recall that ) between flights . She was on a layover at Toledo Express Airport ((Swanton Ohio ) Never solved. I believe this was in the middle 80s? Anyone ?
 
  • #677
Wow just 22 minutes for the Defense! I don't know why that shocks me but it does ! But IMO just another great sign that justice will be served for Ce!

Re: car rental stuff from Delta.. please tell me someone else here remembers seeing info we dug up long ago here ..we had found a business page for JDW s place and the description he had entered under services offered also included providing rides/taxi like services for the airport , and there is a missing woman from Michigan who was killed or still missing ?? (Damnit I can't recall that ) between flights . She was on a layover at Toledo Express Airport ((Swanton Ohio ) Never solved. I believe this was in the middle 80s? Anyone ?

and why would you bring in a friend to say he rode motorcycle's and watched 🤬🤬🤬🤬 with him! On a side note, it is super creepy in my opinion that these grown men sit around and watch 🤬🤬🤬🤬 together.
 
  • #678
I could see teen boys sneaking and watching but not grown men. BUT the kind of 🤬🤬🤬🤬 that was being watched is NOT normal for anyone to view and enjoy, IMO. That’s very weird to me. Just another point to show he is a sick sick human, if you can even call evil like that human.

I’m baffled as to what the point was to the testimony today. I’m sure if we heard the testimony in it’s entirety it may make more sense?!?!?! Maybe they think when he is found guilty they can ask for him to be sent to a psychiatric facility if he doesn’t get the death penalty?? IMO that’s a long shot though.

It’s hard to get into a mind that evil.


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I agree, NEVER heard of "grown" men watching together?!

Maybe I am completely wrong here....BUT! could "the videos" they watched together be "videos" EVIL himself recorded of his victims?! "They all looked scared" per LE. MAYBE he was bragging to his friends?!
 
  • #679
Wow just 22 minutes for the Defense! I don't know why that shocks me but it does ! But IMO just another great sign that justice will be served for Ce!

Re: car rental stuff from Delta.. please tell me someone else here remembers seeing info we dug up long ago here ..we had found a business page for JDW s place and the description he had entered under services offered also included providing rides/taxi like services for the airport , and there is a missing woman from Michigan who was killed or still missing ?? (Damnit I can't recall that ) between flights . She was on a layover at Toledo Express Airport ((Swanton Ohio ) Never solved. I believe this was in the middle 80s? Anyone ?

Yes I remember that.... maybe on the map of possible JW victims. When you click on the name there is a description as to the circumstances for some.


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  • #680
Ok I wasn’t sure if he passed on it or just never answered.

I just read the article... I wondered why the defense never called their “expert witness” but they had intended on calling him during the sentencing phase, correct? Is that when the rest of their witnesses that were on the list will testify also? IE his sister?

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The expert witness is for mitigation.

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