GUILTY OK - 4 dead, many injured when car crashed into crowd at OSU homecoming parade

[jjenny]

If it was "intentional" then can they not up the charges to "premeditation?" I think knowingly driving your car into a crowd of people, at a high rate of speed, makes it pretty clear her intention was to take people with her in her "suicide attempt." Doesn't sound any different than the mass shootings, but she used a vehicle instead of a gun as her weapon of choice.

It sounds like a very lame attempt at suicide and a much better attempt at murder. My guess is that they want to go with what they think they can prove. If she is convicted for second degree murder she could still get a very long prison sentence.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

This is from a witness at the parade

http://www.kjrh.com/news/local-news/witness-chambers-said-she-wanted-to-kill-herself

OK, so I think this coupled with the police report means we can safely rule out the story that she was running away and had to be pinned to the ground.

Even if that story did come from Governor Fallin.

 

[KaaBoom]

ok....found what may have been reason she went on a half baked suicide attempt.

"Chambers was reportedly fired from her part-time job at Stillwater's Freddy’s Frozen Custard & Steakburgers, leaving the fast food franchise in tears a half hour before the crash, witness xxxxx told the Stillwater News Press."

Wonder if that witness worked with her.
So remember another article said she just quit her 2nd other job to be able to work more at Freddys and if she just got fired from Freddys then it was probably the straw that broke her.

What a selfish miserable thing to do if this is why she was wrecking on purpose. It defeinitely explains her lack of remorse at police station.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...deadly-osu-crash-distraught-article-1.2410380

From the source linked to in that article.

An earlier News Press version of this story mentioned Chambers had allegedly been fired from her job. Thompson said that wasn't true.

Employer of suspected drunken driver says Chambers was fine when she left work

 

[jjenny]

OK, so I think this coupled with the police report means we can safely rule out the story that she was running away and had to be pinned to the ground.

Even if that story did come from Governor Fallin.

Somebody might have told the governor they did that. Maybe too look like a hero. Certainly the story doesn't appear to be true.

 

[KaaBoom]

Yeah well, there you go. Has a police report never left out any information? AFAIK, there has to be some kind of charge in order to get handcuffed and arrested. In her case, and based on what has been written, that initial charge was DUI. Does a police report have to include every split second detail of what transpired?

Generally, yes. Important information like a field sobriety test would have to be included in a police report. And no you do not need to be charged to be handcuffed and arrested. I have been handcuffed many times and I have never been charged with anything.

I think it is not at all surprising that a field sobriety test was not conducted. There were still bodies laying all over the street, when she was handcuffed and taken away. No cop is going to try and administer a field sobriety test, in the middle of those conditions. The cop already knew that because there were serious injuries and probably fatalities, a blood test was going to be needed anyway. He probably felt that he already had enough probable cause to arrest her without a field sobriety test.

 

[Hatfield]

Another Longhorn here. Glad to see our school is offering its support.

Thanks so much to the Longhorn fans and Sooner fans that have shown their support to the Pokes fans.

Football in those 3 schools have a great rivalry and the games are always played with great class. People travel to away games and are not afraid to wear the teams T-shirts at the opposing schools because people in the Midwest are generally very respectful of each other. Its rivalries how they are meant to be. Cheer and Boo and then go have beers together afterwards.

Some great people in the Midwest.

 

[Hatfield]

From the source linked to in that article.



Employer of suspected drunken driver says Chambers was fine when she left work

Yeah, there was a lot of conflicting reports. It seems the people across the street saw her leaving upset shortly after she arrived at work and they must have assumed she was fired but the manager said she was not fired. The manager would not say what it was she was upset about but he did say it was not something that someone ought to be upset about.

Its a big mystery right now but no matter what it was it was no excuse for her to do what she did. Hopefully she will be prosecuted for her deliberate actions.

 

[Hatfield]

If it was "intentional" then can they not up the charges to "premeditation?" I think knowingly driving your car into a crowd of people, at a high rate of speed, makes it pretty clear her intention was to take people with her in her "suicide attempt." Doesn't sound any different than the mass shootings, but she used a vehicle instead of a gun as her weapon of choice.

That's a good analogy. It really was just like a mass school shooting but with a car instead of gun.

 

[katydid23]

It is hard for me to believe her when she told the witness that she was 'trying to commit suicide.' You don't run over a crowd of people to try and kill yourself. Any idiot knows they will die and you will not.

I think she just said that to cover up her murderous actions. Kind of like the moms/dads that kill their innocent babies in a 'murder/suicide' but somehow forget to shoot themselves too.

 

[Hope4More]

It is hard for me to believe her when she told the witness that she was 'trying to commit suicide.' You don't run over a crowd of people to try and kill yourself. Any idiot knows they will die and you will not.

I think she just said that to cover up her murderous actions. Kind of like the moms/dads that kill their innocent babies in a 'murder/suicide' but somehow forget to shoot themselves too.

Her murderous intent, or maybe her complete and utter indifference about who she'd injure and kill by choosing to go completely out of control.


Only difference is the legal distinction between 1st degree and 2nd degree murder. Since I can't imagine any OK jury is going to give her an insanity pass, I'd be willing to bet she'll be put away for the absolute maximum time allowed for killing each of her 4 victims.

 

[GrilledCheezy]

Yeah, the more I read about this story, the more I lean toward Chambers committing an intentional act and hoping for suicide by cop but she chickened out.

 

[SCHMAE]

This is from a witness at the parade

http://www.kjrh.com/news/local-news/witness-chambers-said-she-wanted-to-kill-herself

Why does the idea of her being drunk and this being a horrible, negligent, careless, selfish accident sound far better than on purpose to take her own life?

 

[LietKynes]

It is hard for me to believe her when she told the witness that she was 'trying to commit suicide.' You don't run over a crowd of people to try and kill yourself. Any idiot knows they will die and you will not.

I think she just said that to cover up her murderous actions. Kind of like the moms/dads that kill their innocent babies in a 'murder/suicide' but somehow forget to shoot themselves too.

RSBM

When the 'thanks' button is not enough !
Agree totally -- if you want to die ,you drive into a tree or off a cliff.
This is looking like premeditated murder , even if she thought about it just after leaving her place of employment.
Vile and despicable; and I hope the jury sees through her 'story'.

:moo:

 

[Dogface]

Oh what a melodramatic, self centered you know what! "To be free"....I hope not in your life time honey! If you wanted to kill yourself, fair game, but this attempt was far from an attempt at all. Get real. Who would ever think this was an attempt at suicide?!? Sorry, not buying what you are selling lady.

 

[Glamourcat]

I have a friend and her daughter who were both injured in the parade. My niece works at the restaurant right in front of the crash site. So many families who have been affected by this tragedy. (I won't call it an accident, because I don't believe it was)
I am completely disgusted to read her quotes about trying to commit suicide! Her dad needs to quit talking NOW! We don't want to hear about how wonderful his monster daughter is. From what we know of her (and I have read the police report), she is a selfish person who chose to end the life a a beautiful 2 year old boy, a graduate student who had accomplished so much in her lifetime,
2 admired professors who will be deeply missed, and the possibility of a 5th victim who is in critical condition and may not pull through. This could have been my niece and even though we are thankful she is okay, her memory of her college days will forever be changed.
I for one am praying that justice will be served.

 

[bluesneakers]

Why does the idea of her being drunk and this being a horrible, negligent, careless, selfish accident sound far better than on purpose to take her own life?

Because everyone makes mistakes, but very few of us are heartless killers? Idk.


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[jjenny]

New timeline details.
She wasn't fired or asked to leave the job (so that story on heavy.com (about her being asked to leave because she was on drugs) appears to have been false).
She left on her own volition. So it sounds like she was upset over something not related to the job.

http://www.news9.com/story/30379296/new-details-in-timeline-leading-up-to-osu-homecoming-crash

 

[Hope4More]

New timeline details.
She wasn't fired or asked to leave the job (so that story on heavy.com (about her being asked to leave because she was on drugs) appears to have been false).
She left on her own volition. So it sounds like she was upset over something not related to the job.

http://www.news9.com/story/30379296/new-details-in-timeline-leading-up-to-osu-homecoming-crash

Maybe she was distracted because she was going back and forth in her mind about premeditated plans to crash her car into parade goers. Maybe she left when she did and then waited as she appears to have done because she knew when and where the parade ended, and she timed her drive accordingly.

 

[Hatfield]

New timeline details.
She wasn't fired or asked to leave the job (so that story on heavy.com (about her being asked to leave because she was on drugs) appears to have been false).
She left on her own volition. So it sounds like she was upset over something not related to the job.
http://www.news9.com/story/30379296/new-details-in-timeline-leading-up-to-osu-homecoming-crash

I think it is still possible it was job related like maybe the boss told her she will not be getting full time hours OR maybe he told her she would not be getting a different position that she may have asked for.

Even if it wasn't a firing I still think it is possible it was job related and she blew it way out of proportion.

Then again it could have been some other "news" that could have had nothing to do with her job. Like maybe she took a pregnancy test she had just bought and used it in the bathroom and found out she was pregnant or something like that.

There really is no telling at this point. It is surprising that nobody seems to know.

 

[watergirl62]

OT :I keep flashing on the opening 'scene' from Mr. Mercedes.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18775247-mr-mercedes#