GUILTY OK - Christopher Lane, 22, Australian, slain in thrill killing, Duncan, 16 Aug 2013

[Jersey*Girl]

Have to run real quick. Love you mods, we're keeping yas busy...

 

[jjenny]

The chief on this case in on Erin Burnett (CNN), and per him, the 17 year old, MJ, is the one talking.

They do have surveillance video.

But it appears he is talking all over the place. From what has been reported, he told police 16 year old was the triggerman, but in court he claimed that he, himself, pulled the trigger.

 

[scorekeeper]

I can't say what I feel but :stormingmad: :stormingmad:

My heart breaks from Chris Lane's family and friends. To think this young man came to America to play baseball and some "bored" animals gunned him down. Very sad. What is going on with our young people?

I'm so sorry, Chris....

Chris Lane rounding third and heading for Home........RIP, Chris

 

[jjenny]

All three are charged as adults.

Says who? What is being reported is that 17 year old is charged as a juvenile.

 

[jjenny]

MJ is the oldest and he's not quite 5'4. I just thought that was kinda odd, shortie acting like a .

What does being short have to do with anything? Napoleon was short.

 

[SapphireSteel]

What does being short have to do with anything? Napoleon was short.

Not sure what Napoleon has to do with anything either, but he wasn't short.

On death he measured in at 168cm which is about 5'6", average to tall for his time.

http://www.napoleon.org/en/essential_napoleon/faq/

 

[SapphireSteel]

Are you freaking kidding me? Without a doubt the USA will fund these crimals' defense but Christopher Lane's parents have to pay to have his body sent back to Australia? Wtf? In all seriousness, WE SHOULD PAY TO HAVE HIS BODY SENT BACK TO HIS HOMELAND!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...4f5dd4-092d-11e3-89fe-abb4a5067014_story.html

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His old team, Essendon, scheduled a memorial game for Sunday to raise funds for Lane’s parents as they worked to have their boy’s remains sent home.

Sad, most Aussies would have travel insurance to pay for this, or at least the Australian Government could step in. If he was Aboriginal he'd already be packed up, paid for and on the way home.

His poor family, what a nightmare for them.

 

[jjenny]

Not sure what Napoleon has to do with anything either, but he wasn't short.

On death he measured in at 168cm which is about 5'6", average to tall for his time.

http://www.napoleon.org/en/essential_napoleon/faq/

Google "napoleon complex."

 

[Ausgirl]

I've been too sad to post anything 'til now.

What a nice young man. Getting a scholarship overseas is a big deal, too - it would have been so exciting for him to have that opportunity, as baseball isn't such a huge deal here..

Damnit. Can't even comment on the killers, too gutted.

Revampz, I agree 100% with your post above -- remember when our major media influence was the BBC and British telly? I have watched American ideologies and even language traits slowly working their way into our national consciousness via media and business practise in a huge way since the 80's and I REALLY don't like it. No offense, America. But I 100% prefer the way we used to be. I want my Australia back! lol

 

[Karmady]

But it appears he is talking all over the place. From what has been reported, he told police 16 year old was the triggerman, but in court he claimed that he, himself, pulled the trigger.

In this video (and a lot of other articles) it says the 17 yo broke down in court and said "he did NOT pull the trigger," though. Since they charged the other as the shooter, I'm guessing this report is the accurate version. jmo

http://www.koco.com/news/oklahomane...21551530/-/m4w309z/-/index.html?absolute=true

 

[jjenny]

In this video (and a lot of other articles) it says the 17 yo broke down in court and said "he did NOT pull the trigger," though. Since they charged the other as the shooter, I'm guessing this report is the accurate version. jmo

http://www.koco.com/news/oklahomane...21551530/-/m4w309z/-/index.html?absolute=true

That makes more sense. Our media strikes again. I saw several articles that claimed he said he pulled the trigger.

 

[SapphireSteel]

Google "napoleon complex."

I would, but I already know what it means and I can't see the relevance.

Tall people murder folks too.

 

[fabvab]

This is so sad and so horrible. Christopher Lane was a handsome young man who earned a college scholarship for being an athlete. He had so much potential and his life was taken by thugs who killed him for fun.

It's unbelievable! I'm praying for Christopher's family in Australia. What a tragic loss for them.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

Sherbertjello thanks for the post above. I have heard that on the tele over here a couple of times that they wanted to be like the "gangstas".

I just want to say that I am really sick of these "gangstas" being revered as role models by youth.

Believe me it is not only in the US, your society has a really big influence on the rest of the world because you are dominant in music and tv shows. ESPECIALLY here in Australia. In fact a lot of musicians etc that come here and like it describe it as being like the US 20 or 30 years ago.

We see the kids here dressing like gangstas and wanting to be like the ones they see on the tv and mostly music clips. It is cool to be "bad " you might say.

I personally can not understand it. I see some of "musicians" that are huge and have been in gangs etc prior as just scum, and the woman wanting to be there "biatches" is just awful.

I am trying to direct my boys to better role models, but who I don't know.

Also I will mention that I am up in the north of queensland, north of Australia which has a large aboriginal and islander (torres strait, pacific islands) population. We are having a massive juvenile crime problem here with mostly stealing cars and breaking into peoples homes. Thankfully no guns are involved. But they have started wearing the hoodies and forming gangs and trying to be "badass" like what they are seeing on the tele.

I don't want to play the race card but are just telling you a realistic fact as to what is happening here.

The kids of the world need a complete change of attitude as to who are there role models!

Most of us Americans hate all that gangsta stuff here in the USA but it has attracted a certain element who can't make it in mainstream life---but certainly can make it as a hoodlum.
And we have the gangsta'-on-steroids stuff here in the USA 'cause guns are everywhere.
Anywhoo----hope this starts to shed light to my foreign friends that don't quite "get it" about the USA.
Yep, it's bad.

 

[Ravynne]

Since JFE is charged as an adult, here's his full Vine profile...

JFE vine:
http://seenive.com/u/939312363478327296

I don't even know what to say about this, I only see my impression of the language is unsettling.

Had to take a break, gotta catch up

Moo

 

[Brightbird]

Sad, most Aussies would have travel insurance to pay for this, or at least the Australian Government could step in. If he was Aboriginal he'd already be packed up, paid for and on the way home.

His poor family, what a nightmare for them.

If he was Aboriginal, it's highly unlikely he would have been in the US on a baseball scholarship in the first place. Such is the disadvantage of many Aboriginal people. I find that an offensive and racist comparison to make here.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

I've been too sad to post anything 'til now.

What a nice young man. Getting a scholarship overseas is a big deal, too - it would have been so exciting for him to have that opportunity, as baseball isn't such a huge deal here..

Damnit. Can't even comment on the killers, too gutted.

Revampz, I agree 100% with your post above -- remember when our major media influence was the BBC and British telly? I have watched American ideologies and even language traits slowly working their way into our national consciousness via media and business practise in a huge way since the 80's and I REALLY don't like it. No offense, America. But I 100% prefer the way we used to be. I want my Australia back! lol

Trust me, many Americans don't like it either.
The slang, the violence, the gutteral sounds, the derogatory words, the profanity, the lack of sentence structure, etc, etc,

 

[Ausgirl]

TasteofHoney, from what I can gather through talking to my many American internet friends from -all- ages and walks of life over there, many Americans feel exactly the same way. A surprising number of young people I talk to through art sites are staunchly defending good grammar and peaceful, non-angry forms of self-expression.

It's like simple goodness and goodness of heart has no place left in the world, you know?

Not to waffle on a thread dedicated to the life and loss of Chris. His poor family..

 

[LambChop]

TasteofHoney, from what I can gather through talking to my many American internet friends from -all- ages and walks of life over there, many Americans feel exactly the same way. A surprising number of young people I talk to through art sites are staunchly defending good grammar and peaceful, non-angry forms of self-expression.

It's like simple goodness and goodness of heart has no place left in the world, you know?

Not to waffle on a thread dedicated to the life and loss of Chris. His poor family..

They got a gun from someone. I'm hoping that LE is trying to find out where they were able to get ahold of a gun and go after the person responsible for giving it to them. Unless it was stolen by them I would hope the person who provided them with the weapon gets charged as well. jmo

 

[momrids6]

Oklahoma's Youthful Offender Act

The idea behind the youthful offender act was to get tougher on teenagers who commit violent crimes than we used to, when they were only handled in the juvenile system. However, it was also to give them a chance to be rehabilitated, instead of sending them to adult prison, where they'd likely just turn into hard-core criminals.


http://www.newson6.com/story/7645766/oklahomas-youthful-offender-law?clienttype=printable