GUILTY OK - Christopher Lane, 22, Australian, slain in thrill killing, Duncan, 16 Aug 2013

  • #81
Hey cappy, remember what you said about trusting initial media reports? Well on JFE FB wall, he says what Capt Ford was quoted in the media as saying "Bang 2 drops In 2hours". he posted that on the 15th so there's no way it was in reference to the killing of the dog and the killing of Chris. Chris was murdered on Friday the 16th. So I wonder now...

Yes, I saw that, interesting huh? And see my post on the last page - the media have also posted a pic of one the three, (the 16 yr old I think), twice. This gives the mistaken impression that its three black kids - MJ is white, there's a pic of him on that fb page.

So the two, younger, black kids are facing an adult trial while the older white kid is in juvenile court. I can see that going down real well in some quarters.
 
  • #82
All those people making racist comments on his wall are showing that they are just as ugly inside as the murderers IMO.

I understand the anger but they can't pretend to be classier or somehow superior to murderers when they're spewing that kind of garbage.

Tell me about it! I despise racism. I don't even care what somebody's skin color is. Racism shouldn't play any part in today's day and time. I'm sick of it by everyone - whites, blacks, hispanics, middle easterners, yada yada.
 
  • #83
Actually, JE's last comment is on Thursday, August 15, the day before the shooting. So he hadn't been online that day, or at least not on FB. I wonder why his family hasn't pulled the page yet.
 
  • #84
Yes, I saw that, interesting huh? And see my post on the last page - the media have also posted a pic of one the three, (the 16 yr old I think), twice. This gives the mistaken impression that its three black kids - MJ is white, there's a pic of him on that fb page.

So the two, younger, black kids are facing an adult trial while the older white kid is in juvenile court. I can see that going down real well in some quarters.

My thoughts exactly!
 
  • #85
2 teens are not talking. 1 teen is.
all of them have juvenile background with police, can not unseal them due to them being so young.
they left the gun with other people when they were done--can not find the weapon.
 
  • #86
That "2 drops in 2 hours" post which was mentioned in this thread earlier as if it were JFE gloating about the murder, was actually posted on Wednesday. The murder happened on Friday, so whatever he was talking about there it wasn't the murder.

ETA: I also see that the pics we've all seen in the media aren't accurate - they've posted a picture of one of the suspects twice, giving the impression that its three black kids. MJ is white.

Omg I posted the same thing!
 
  • #87
town doesn't have a history of violent, senseless crime like this.
police have not been giving information to families, they delegate that info to the families through a select few people.
local community is outraged. have same questions police have.

wonder where the gun used in this crime is.
shotgun (not involved in the shooting) was found in the trunk of the car. serial number was scratched off.
1 teen has a family member in jail. the rest come from 2 parent homes.
 
  • #88
Hey cappy, remember what you said about trusting initial media reports? Well on JE FB wall, he says what Capt Ford was quoted in the media as saying "Bang 2 drops In 2hours". he posted that on the 15th so there's no way it was in reference to the killing of the dog and the killing of Chris. Chris was murdered on Friday the 16th. So I wonder now...

I think it might have been in reference to some music called "Bang II" that was being released (dropping) two hours from the time of that posting. However, that is speculation only.
 
  • #89
Yes, I saw that, interesting huh? And see my post on the last page - the media have also posted a pic of one the three, (the 16 yr old I think), twice. This gives the mistaken impression that its three black kids - MJ is white, there's a pic of him on that fb page.

So the two, younger, black kids are facing an adult trial while the older white kid is in juvenile court. I can see that going down real well in some quarters.

My thoughts exactly!

Totally agree.
 
  • #90
I think it might have been in reference to some music called "Bang II" that was being released (dropping) two hours from the time of that posting. However, that is speculation only.

No, you're on the money. Exactly.
 
  • #91
2 teens are not talking. 1 teen is.
all of them have juvenile background with police, can not unseal them due to them being so young.
they left the gun with other people when they were done--can not find the weapon.

Only a judge can see 'sealed' juvenile records (in most states). It is up to the judge to share that with the prosecution and defense. Only in certain instances may juvenile records be brought into court against a defendant. This is one of those in which a judge can use that against the defendants.
 
  • #92
MJ is the oldest and he's not quite 5'4. I just thought that was kinda odd, shortie acting like a 🤬🤬🤬🤬.
 
  • #93
Unfortunately, the suspects do not face the death penalty, as they are under 18.

This crime is absolutely senseless and cruel, as so many are these days.

I think I'm speaking for most Australians (and probably Chris's loved ones) when I say,

enough killing!

:please:

The DP is illegal in all other first world countries. Australians do not want another murder to avenge the first. It's not our way and would add to the trauma for his loved ones if it was on offer.

:twocents:
 
  • #94
Ok, I understand MJ didn't shoot Chris, bu he still drove the car for them all and was still part of the plan to choose someone at random to kill - so why isn't he charged as a frighten adult? This is so upsetting!

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/20/justice/australia-student-killed-oklahoma/index.html

Snipped:
Charges were filed Tuesday against the three teens.

JE Jr., 15, and CL, 16, were charged as adults with felony murder in the first degree, according to Kaylee Chandler, Stephens County Court Clerk.
M*****l J***s, 17, faces two charges -- use of a vehicle in the discharge of a weapon and accessory after the fact to murder in the first degree, she said.

A judge set bond at $1 million for J***s, while no bond was set for JE and CL, Chandler said.
 
  • #95
I think I'm speaking for most Australians (and probably Chris's loved ones) when I say,

enough killing!

:please:

The DP is illegal in all other first world countries. Australians do not want another murder to avenge the first. It's not our way and would add to the trauma for his loved ones if it was on offer.

:twocents:

It's not even available. They're underage.
 
  • #96
I think it's pretty obvious that MDJ drove the car, and since he did, and since he had knowledge that a shooting was taking place (*maybe, he did have a shotgun in his trunk), he is being charged with that. I have a feeling that MDJ probably didn't get out of the car, was a "lookout" of sorts, and now this entire case has me feeling that this was an "initiation" on his part.

I couldn't find a single reference of MDJ on the other teens FB pages. I don't know about you guys, but taking random people with you to commit crimes seems a little off. Unless, well unless they are there to repay, or prove something. That's the only two ways I can see it.

Seventeen-year-old MDJ, who allegedly drove the vehicle carrying the other suspects, was charged with use of a vehicle in the discharge of a weapon and accessory to murder after the fact.
http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-...er-of-australian-baseballer-christopher-lane/
 
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Omg I keep reading JFE' FB wall. I'm so sad. Actually, it's making me irate. I believe he and his 2 buddies are guilty as sin, they confessed plus they were captured on surveillance hiding a gun. However, when I read his wall it truly makes me understand how defense lawyers can do their jobs and be proud. Reading all of those absolutely disgusting comments makes me understand why Baez threw George Anthony under the bus to save Casey Anthony from the death penal. People are going way beyond the normal joking about a man going to jail. This is serious and I hope it's being reported.
 

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