GUILTY OK - Jaymie Adams, 25, Blanchard, 9 Dec 2011

  • #661
  • #662

Yes for the arraignment however this article doesn't say he entered a plea.

Police must have presented the charges against him where he is incarcerated on Monday and two days later, he appeared before the Judge for his arraignment.

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Justin Adams, 25, from Oklahoma, was charged with two counts of first-degree murder on Monday, February 13 after the body of his wife Jaymie Adams was found beaten and stabbed to death on January 7.

The husband of murdered Blanchard mother, Jaymie Adams, heads to court on Wednesday, February 16.

Justin Adams appeared before the judge via video. Adams is now officially charged with two counts of first degree murder. One count for his wife, the other for her unborn child.

After the charges were read to him, Adams said "thank you" to the judge.

The judge also denied Adams bond. He will remain behind bars in the Oklahoma County Jail. His next court appearance is set for March 1.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...aymie-Adams-charged-murder.html#ixzz1mYakWJqR
 
  • #663
Yes, Justin's father buried Jaymie. He went to college for ministry (Bachelor of Arts in Pastoral Studies & Youth Ministry), but I'm not sure if he's currently a pastor.

Justin's father lives about 75 miles from where Justin lived.

From what I can tell, Justin has 3 brothers and possibly one much younger half brother. I read that Justin is a twin, but I don't know if that's true.

Yes, Tina remarried and divorced. Her boyfriend was home the night Justin came over to borrow the car to look for Jaymie, but he says he never saw Justin. Justin's father is remarried.

A year ago Justin and Jaymie were married and I wondered who performed the wedding ceremony. I don't know if a father or mother who is qualified to perform wedding ceremonies are allowed to marry their children.

Thanks for providing me this information. The male who accompanied Justin to the press conference might be his twin brother. They appear close in age. I saw Justin's younger brother in a video so I wasn't sure if he had any more siblings.
 
  • #664
Justin was most likely charged in prison on Monday before he was arraigned on Wednesday so LE could lay charges against him before the deadline expired.

Another thing about Cyr is he knew where Jaymie was before she went missing if he was to meet her at the McDonald’s Restaurant in Midwest City. Cyr reported talked with someone else who refused to speak with police and identify himself when they paid him a visit.

When can Mr. Box access the phone and computer records? All the records from multiple sources need to be collected and coordinated and that will be a very time consuming and painstaking task.

It is very interesting to know Jaymie made two phone calls after her date cancelled at
1 am.
 
  • #665
Justin was most likely charged in prison on Monday before he was arraigned on Wednesday so LE could lay charges against him before the deadline expired.

Another thing about Cyr is he knew where Jaymie was before she went missing if he was to meet her at the McDonald’s Restaurant in Midwest City. Cyr reported talked with someone else who refused to speak with police and identify himself when they paid him a visit.

When can Mr. Box access the phone and computer records? All the records from multiple sources need to be collected and coordinated and that will be a very time consuming and painstaking task.

It is very interesting to know Jaymie made two phone calls after her date cancelled at
1 am.

This is still SO confusing to me. So Cyr actually talked to Jaymie, not a text exchange? I don't understand how Justin could be guilty if he's telling the truth - she left the house to go meet a client, and then disappeared. It seems in fact, she DID leave the house to meet a client who cancelled on her at 1 a.m. Did her next two phone calls connect - that is, someone can verify they actually spoke to her?
 
  • #666
actually, I think Justin is the "friend" that met Jaymie at McDonalds after Cyr cancelled and their phones pinged off the same tower by lake draper after he killed her and dumped her there... jmhoo

(pings were all over that area around that time)

as for what his mother says I think it is a bunch of bunk..

moo
 
  • #667
actually, I think Justin is the "friend" that met Jaymie at McDonalds after Cyr cancelled and their phones pinged off the same tower by lake draper after he killed her and dumped her there... jmhoo

(pings were all over that area around that time)

as for what his mother says I think it is a bunch of bunk..
moo

BBM

I concur.
 
  • #668
actually, I think Justin is the "friend" that met Jaymie at McDonalds after Cyr cancelled and their phones pinged off the same tower by lake draper after he killed her and dumped her there... jmhoo

(pings were all over that area around that time)

as for what his mother says I think it is a bunch of bunk..

moo

i'm trying to fill in details here. There are so few "facts".

1. I fully believe that Cyr called and cancelled and spoke to her at 1 a.m.

2. Then, the next thing that's very clear is that Justin and Tina were at the McDonalds calling the cops to open the family vehicle that was parked in kind of a remote back lot there at 5 a.m.

I can't make sense of what happened if Justin is guilty. He went to his mother's trailer - she's next door - to borrow the car so he could go find Jaymie, some time around 1 a.m.? Then he killed her and took her remains to the Lake? Then he washed up and picked up his mother to go back to the McDonalds to pretend to find her car, and call the police?
 
  • #669
Couple of other questions...

1) Is it normal for a "client" to call and cancel a "date"? Wouldn't they just no-show? IDK - maybe you would if you were a regular client

2) Who in the world was watching the children while all of this was going on? Did they sleep through it?

3) I wonder if Jamie (aka Justin) actually cancelled the date via text.
 
  • #670
Couple of other questions...

1) Is it normal for a "client" to call and cancel a "date"? Wouldn't they just no-show? IDK - maybe you would if you were a regular client

2) Who in the world was watching the children while all of this was going on? Did they sleep through it?

3) I wonder if Jamie (aka Justin) actually cancelled the date via text.

No. Cyr apparently says HE called and cancelled it. I would think it he were a regular client, he would call to cancel and not just not show.
 
  • #671
This is still SO confusing to me. So Cyr actually talked to Jaymie, not a text exchange? I don't understand how Justin could be guilty if he's telling the truth - she left the house to go meet a client, and then disappeared. It seems in fact, she DID leave the house to meet a client who cancelled on her at 1 a.m. Did her next two phone calls connect - that is, someone can verify they actually spoke to her?

The media reports are claiming Joseph Cyr talked with Jaymie on the telephone. And Cyr, according to the media, made contact with a person who refused to identify themselves or talk to the Police when they paid him/her a visit.

The media report didn&#8217;t say whether a conversation took place when Jaymie made two calls after her date cancelled at 1 am. Only that she made two quick calls after she was jilted.

If Jaymie was murdered in her house Friday night, I think it would have been obvious. Apparently Jaymie told LE she wanted to get away from her husband once when they were at the hardware store and she said he hadn&#8217;t laid a hand on her.

Mr. Box said LE are messing with Justin and there is no evidence linking him to the crime.

According to Justin, Jaymie met a client at a motel after she left home between 10 & 11 pm on Friday evening and she arrived at the McD&#8217;s in MidWest City by 11:36 pm. Where did this client of Jaymie's go afterwards?

I wonder what time Jaymie was to meet the client who cancelled at 1 am? Allegedly Jaymie told Justin where she was immediately after she arrived in MWC, apparently alone, and her client hadn't shown up. It looks like she decided to wait and at 1 am she received a call from someone who wanted to call off their date. I wonder what Jaymie told this person who made her wait for an hour and a half and then called to cancel? Cyr says he was supposed to meet Jaymie but didn't.

Jaymie quickly made 2 telephone calls after 1 am and I suppose that was the last time she used her phone. I don&#8217;t think her cell phone was in the van.

I hope some evidence turns up soon, like her van keys, jewelry, purse, and murder weapon.
 
  • #672
The state does not need to show all of their evidence to the defense at this time, do they? I know they do at some point, but perhaps not yet?
 
  • #673
Yes, they do. Once he's been charged with a crime, they need to make all their evidence known to the defense. Sometimes things take awhile, and sometimes tests aren't back from labs yet, but in theory at this point everything LE has should be made available to the defense.
 
  • #674
No. Cyr apparently says HE called and cancelled it. I would think it he were a regular client, he would call to cancel and not just not show.

Why would Cyr call to cancel? If Cyr talked with Jaymie at 1 am on the telephone, unless Jaymie and Cyr saved the conversation, Cyr can manipulate the facts. Personally, I don’t think Jaymie and Cyr would save their conversation due to the content.

Cyr contacted Jaymie at 1 am and he made another call but the article didn't say if Cyr made this call immediately after he called Jaymie. But after Jaymie heard from Cyr at 1 am, she allegedly made two phone calls and it sounds to me like the opposite of what Cyr said happened took place otherwise Jaymie would have gone home.
 
  • #675
I wonder how Justin Adams fared on the mental evaluation he underwent after he was charged with two murder complaints and on suicide watch.

This article doesn't say who ordered the evaluation; A Judge or Justin's attorney, Irven Box.

Read more: http://www.koco.com/news/30332089/detail.html#ixzz1mXh9TFuY
 
  • #676
Why would Cyr call to cancel? If Cyr talked with Jaymie at 1 am on the telephone, unless Jaymie and Cyr saved the conversation, Cyr can manipulate the facts. Personally, I don’t think Jaymie and Cyr would save their conversation due to the content.

Cyr contacted Jaymie at 1 am and he made another call but the article didn't say if Cyr made this call immediately after he called Jaymie. But after Jaymie heard from Cyr at 1 am, she allegedly made two phone calls and it sounds to me like the opposite of what Cyr said happened took place otherwise Jaymie would have gone home.

Are you saying that you think Cyr might be guilty? I can't think of another reason to lie about the content of the call if he's not guilty -
 
  • #677
Are you saying that you think Cyr might be guilty? I can't think of another reason to lie about the content of the call if he's not guilty -

Cyr wasn't given a LDT was he. Did LE conduct a formal interview with Cyr at police headquarters?

I’m pointing out that it is unlikely Jaymie or Joseph Cyr saved their telephone conversation so that gives Cyr the power to manipulate the facts he gave LE; that he cancelled the meeting when he spoke with her at 1 am and didn’t meet her.

Jaymie arrived at the McDonald’s at 11:36 pm intending to meet a client and we know she was to meet Cyr. She stayed and waited to hear from him for over an hour. What was he up to? He claims he called her at 1 am and “cancelled” and phone records will verify whether he made the call but not the content of their conversation.

Jaymie made two calls on her phone immediately after Cyr called her and the calls were short in duration so it appears the reason she may have placed these calls was so she could provide these individuals with some type of information, like an address. Then she immediately hung up so it sounds to me she arranged to meet with them.

Because Cyr talked to an individual who refused to identify themselves and speak with LE and Jaymie called two people immediately after she spoke with Cyr, it is possible a group of people planned to meet at someone’s house where Jaymie was murdered once Cyr made contact with Jaymie.

Cyr may not be involved, but it is essential for LE to interview the people Jaymie contacted since it was reported that Jaymie and Justin were swingers and several people were contacted at 1 am.

If Justin didn’t have access to a vehicle and was babysitting three children, I don’t see how he could have murdered his wife who was alive at 1 am when Justin was apparently logged onto his computer, which can be proven.
 
  • #678
I definitely think that Cyr needed to be investigated; and I believe that LE did just that. They confiscated his vehicle; and possibly interrogated him. I am not certain about any official interrogation. I do not think that LE was narrowed in on Justin without looking at other avenues.

I would hope and think that LE checked into his phone records.

The key piece of evidence that leads me to believe that LE has "their guy" is that Justin's cell phone and Jaymie's cell phone pinging in the same area at the same time. How can Justin explain this away? Did Cyr's phone ping anywhere near Jaymie's at any time during that night? We do not have this information, but I would certainly hope that LE has this information.

I am still confident that LE has the right guy for this crime. I just hope that they have enough evidence.
 
  • #679
I definitely think that Cyr needed to be investigated; and I believe that LE did just that. They confiscated his vehicle; and possibly interrogated him. I am not certain about any official interrogation. I do not think that LE was narrowed in on Justin without looking at other avenues.

I would hope and think that LE checked into his phone records.

The key piece of evidence that leads me to believe that LE has "their guy" is that Justin's cell phone and Jaymie's cell phone pinging in the same area at the same time. How can Justin explain this away? Did Cyr's phone ping anywhere near Jaymie's at any time during that night? We do not have this information, but I would certainly hope that LE has this information.

I am still confident that LE has the right guy for this crime. I just hope that they have enough evidence.

Were search warrants issued for Cyr's phone records and his vehicle?

It will require the services of a highly skilled investigator to successful piece together all the data on the phones and computers so until the evidence is presented in Court, I think the information presented by the media on the cell phones is speculation.

Phone records don’t record conversations so Cyr has the power to tell LE anything.
 
  • #680
I think Jaymie&#8217;s arrival time at McD in MWC is wrong and off by one hour. Justin said his wife left their home between 10 and 11 pm so it looks like Jaymie left after her children were in bed and fast asleep. If Jaymie booked hourly appointments and spent an hour with a client before she drove to MWC, her arrival time would have been 12:36 pm not 11:36 pm. I think Jaymie arrived at 12:36 pm and waited outside in her van for Cyr to contact her by telephone and he was in charge of making the arrangements for their meeting.

The media reports said Justin said his wife contacted him by phone and told him she had arrived at the McD in MWC at 11:36 pm.

Cyr allegedly spoke with Jaymie at 1 am, so I think that is the time Cyr agreed to call her and Jaymie didn&#8217;t wait an hour and a half at McD. Restaurant.
 

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