OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #1

[PommyMommy]

From the documents, we know the regular meetup spot was a place called Four Corners. Does anyone know where this is in relation to where the car was found?

5 miles south, 6 minutes by vehicle.

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[Deepinthought52]

No, but it should give you an idea where to start. The question I always ask is “who stands to gain here?”

A motive couldn’t possibly be more clear. The status quo was in great jeopardy of being upended.

Just look at the recent case in TX where the little girl Audrii was killed. The bio dad’s mother had custody, but let the bio dad and other shady guy live on property. Often lifestyles aren’t much better for the kids, but CpS wants them to be “with family.” Perhaps there were shady associations that wouldn’t mind eliminating what was thought to be a problem. Jmo.

 

[PommyMommy]

APR 1, 2024

Source: Mom, preacher's wife picking up young kids for birthday party when they vanished

A mother and a preacher's wife were picking up kids for a birthday party when they vanished, according to a source.27-year-old Veronica Butlerand 39-year-old J

abc7amarillo.com

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A person close to Butler, who asked to remain anonymous, told ABC 7 that Butler was supposed to pick up her 6-year-old daughter and 8-year-old son in Eva, Oklahoma to celebrate her daughter's birthday.

“Really hard to deal with knowing that someone I've been in contact with since I was 16-years-old (is missing), its been real difficult,” said the source.

[...]

ABC 7 also asked OSBI what kind of shape the car was in when it was found, what was found inside it, if there are any suspects, and the whereabouts of the children. All of that is still under investigation.

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[AugustWest]

I fear this is going to turn out very badly. What a mess. Those poor kids.

 

[PommyMommy]

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What is the source for the 9:30 a.m. time? Is that when they left Hugoton?

The Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation on Sunday announced its involvement in the probe at the request of the Texas County Sheriff's Department, whose jurisdiction includes the isolated part of the Oklahoma panhandle where the women's car was discovered.

Their car was found abandoned along the side of the road near Oklahoma State Highway 95, which is just south of Elkhart, Kansas, right over the border with Oklahoma

Evidence indicates "foul play" after 2 women disappear in Oklahoma, officials say

Authorities are searching for 27-year-old Veronica Butler and 39-year-old Jilian Kelley, whose car was found abandoned in rural Oklahoma.

www.cbsnews.com

Who saw them last and where?

From the article:

"...last seen together in a vehicle later found abandoned in a rural area near the highway."

OHP issues missing advisory for Veronica Butler, Jilian Kelley, OSBI investigates

Oklahoma Highway Patrol reported an Endangered Missing Advisory on Saturday around 6:15 P.M.

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Oklahoma Highway Patrol (OHP) reported an Endangered Missing Advisory on Saturday around 6:15 P.M.

 

[azure]

ABC 7 also asked OSBI what kind of shape the car was in when it was found, what was found inside it, if there are any suspects, and the whereabouts of the children. All of that is still under investigation.

BBM

IMO, the fact that OSBI won't say where the children are is very telling. If this was a random crime, OSBI would say, the children are at home with their guardian, who reported the two missing when they failed to arrive and is cooperating with LE, etc.

 

[Seattle1]

Yarbrough School sent this letter home to the parents on Monday, April 1. The vehicle was found abandoned very nearby the school, and Veronica Butler graduated from this school in 2015. With so little info being released, as a precaution, the school is on lock down.

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[bluevioletfour]

Sometimes when parents live far apart or in rural areas, they will designate a mile marker or other unique feature along a specific road as the meeting place for parenting time exchanges. Wonder if that was the arrangement for this (apparently) Easter holiday exchange.

I'm curious to know if the grandma called anyone when the women did not show to meet up with them??? Did she call authorities or the women's phones? How long did she wait at specified spot? She should have had the children with her. So many questions. The answers will be very telling.

 

[steeltowngirl]

I hope the children are safe. I’m sadly feeling vibes of the Josh Powell case.

 

[OldCop]

What is the source for the 9:30 a.m. time? Is that when they left Hugoton?

Who saw them last and where?

From the article:

"...last seen together in a vehicle later found abandoned in a rural area near the highway."

OHP issues missing advisory for Veronica Butler, Jilian Kelley, OSBI investigates

Oklahoma Highway Patrol reported an Endangered Missing Advisory on Saturday around 6:15 P.M.

ktul.com

Oklahoma Highway Patrol (OHP) reported an Endangered Missing Advisory on Saturday around 6:15 P.M.

Looking at the map, my guess is that Butler left Hugaton where she lives, drove to Elkhart where Kelley lives, either picked her up or she got in Kelley’s vehicle, and they drove south on Hwy 95 towards the town of Eva where they were supposed to pick up the children for the visitation.
The vehicle was found a little less than 3 miles north of town. Looking more closely at the map, the location is on 95 around Rd L and where another road, NO620 Rd merges onto 95. NO620 is a rural dirt road. If this is a targeted incident, this would be an ideal spot for someone to lay in wait for Butler and Kelley to pass, then fall in behind them and somehow force the vehicle to stop or could be the way the women left or were brought out of the area.

 

[nhmemorymaker]

These OCSN files (link below) are almost...unbearable. ya know.... those times when we actually feel "dirty" after reading..

The case that begins way back in 2019..... these parents were basically kids. So some behaviors are pretty understandable.

BUT There is SO much legal activity and spending. My guess is that the father of VB children is getting massive amounts of money and influence from someone who has lots of lawyer friends.

In the end, imo, this woman VB was "legally abused".

OSCN Case Details

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[Deepinthought52]

<modsnip: quoted post was removed> After this, I would’ve had a police escort me for visitation. Jmo.

 

[AugustWest]

After this, I would’ve had a police escort me for visitation. Jmo.

This brings up a really good point. People in these types of situations should meet for child swaps in very public places, such as courthouses or in front of police stations IMO.

 

[PommyMommy]

APR 2, 2024

Investigation Continues, Yarbrough School on Lockdown

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... Butler’s blue Kia was found abandoned.

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“It appears that this was not a willing incident on their own to have taken off or anything of that nature,” said Tim Singer, pastor at Hugoton Assembly of God. “It looks to be that there is something more involved.”

Hunter McKee with the OSBI said, “There is every reason to believe that they could be in danger.”

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[fsngruv]

These OCSN files (link below) are almost...unbearable. ya know.... those times when we actually feel "dirty" after reading..

The case that begins way back in 2019..... these parents were basically kids. So some behaviors are pretty understandable.

BUT There is SO much legal activity and spending. My guess is that the father of VB children is getting massive amounts of money and influence from someone who has lots of lawyer friends.

In the end, imo, this woman VB was "legally abused".

OSCN Case Details

oscn.net

I agree. Reading about alleged "colorful language" has me feeling extra dirty.

 

[PommyMommy]

Police in Oklahoma continue to search for 27-year-old Veronica Butler and 39-year-old Jilian Kelley, who were last seen together. Their car was found abandoned. Police are calling it a "suspicious disappearance."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1775159284185129050

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[imstilla.grandma]

I am so dreading when an article appears saying these women were found. I fear someone has thrust his anger upon them.

 

[charminglane]

I would be interested to know if Grandma had a birthday party for granddaughter and who attended.