Found Deceased OK, Veronica Butler 27 & Jilian Kelley 39, Vehicle Abandoned, Texas County, 30 Mar 2024 #6 *Arrests*

[Warwick7]

Thank you for the link, GRT. I just wanted to note that this article contains a link to the 15-page report by the Medical Examiner. Warning: graphic, and heartbreaking to read.

https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/kake.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/8/0f/80f80176-9bd2-11ef-b2dc-5b9ea6f9ab02/672ab2927ee71.pdf.pdf

Can someone just give the the gist of what the report reveals? I don't think I can bring myself to read it

 

[PommyMommy]

Can someone just give the the gist of what the report reveals? I don't think I can bring myself to read it

‘Her death was very rapid': Jilian Kelley’s autopsy released

In the medical report conducted by the Chief Medical Examiner in Oklahoma City, 39-year-old Jillian Kelley suffered 16 sharp force injuries, nine of which were deep stab wounds to her

www.kake.com

• Jilian suffered 16 sharp force injuries, 9 of those were deep stab wounds to her neck and head that damaged her spinal cord.
• She also had stun gun marks on her neck and shoulder, as well as other injuries indicating she tried to defend herself from the attack.
• The ME's opinion is that she died rapidly as she would have lost her ability to move her body below her head as well as the ability to breathe on her own.
• The ME also believes she was most likely deceased before she was placed inside the freezer.

 

[Warwick7]

‘Her death was very rapid': Jilian Kelley’s autopsy released

In the medical report conducted by the Chief Medical Examiner in Oklahoma City, 39-year-old Jillian Kelley suffered 16 sharp force injuries, nine of which were deep stab wounds to her

www.kake.com

• Jilian suffered 16 sharp force injuries, 9 of those were deep stab wounds to her neck and head that damaged her spinal cord.
• She also had stun gun marks on her neck and shoulder, as well as other injuries indicating she tried to defend herself from the attack.
• The ME's opinion is that she died rapidly as she would have lost her ability to move her body below her head as well as the ability to breathe on her own.
• The ME also believes she was most likely deceased before she was placed inside the freezer.

Thank you Pommy...
Sad...

 

[MyJoey]

‘Her death was very rapid': Jilian Kelley’s autopsy released

In the medical report conducted by the Chief Medical Examiner in Oklahoma City, 39-year-old Jillian Kelley suffered 16 sharp force injuries, nine of which were deep stab wounds to her

www.kake.com

• Jilian suffered 16 sharp force injuries, 9 of those were deep stab wounds to her neck and head that damaged her spinal cord.
• She also had stun gun marks on her neck and shoulder, as well as other injuries indicating she tried to defend herself from the attack.
• The ME's opinion is that she died rapidly as she would have lost her ability to move her body below her head as well as the ability to breathe on her own.
• The ME also believes she was most likely deceased before she was placed inside the freezer.

Seriously over kill

 

[vls12345]

‘Her death was very rapid': Jilian Kelley’s autopsy released

In the medical report conducted by the Chief Medical Examiner in Oklahoma City, 39-year-old Jillian Kelley suffered 16 sharp force injuries, nine of which were deep stab wounds to her

www.kake.com

• Jilian suffered 16 sharp force injuries, 9 of those were deep stab wounds to her neck and head that damaged her spinal cord.
• She also had stun gun marks on her neck and shoulder, as well as other injuries indicating she tried to defend herself from the attack.
• The ME's opinion is that she died rapidly as she would have lost her ability to move her body below her head as well as the ability to breathe on her own.
• The ME also believes she was most likely deceased before she was placed inside the freezer.

And to know she suffered all this as someone likely considered just collateral damage by her murderers....

 

[Muddy K]

And to know she suffered all this as someone likely considered just collateral damage by her murderers....

Collateral damage, indeed. IMO, despite the matter-of-fact, clinical tone of the report, it was all too easy to visualize Jilian and extrapolate, almost wound by wound, the savage assault she experienced.

Jilian was dumped into the chest freezer first. Veronica was thrown on top of her.

Inhuman cruelty. JMO.

 

[PommyMommy]

NOV 15, 2024

https://www.ksn.com/news/crime/officials-delay-release-of-veronica-butlers-autopsy-report/

The medical examiner released the autopsy report for Jilian Kelley on Nov. 5, as attorneys for Adams, Cullum and Cole Twombly were asking the court to delay the release of the autopsy reports. The Texas County, Oklahoma, district attorney said Kelley’s autopsy report was released in error.

A judge has agreed to delay releasing Butler’s report for six months. The earliest it could be released is May 13, 2025, more than a year after she was murdered.

Paul Grice was transferred back to Texas County Jail Thursday night, the same jail as the other four suspects.

 

[CuriousCricket]

Seriously over kill

I don't understand this depth of brutality. What cowards these murderers are trying to keep their horrific acts secret.

 

[MyJoey]

I don't understand this depth of brutality. What cowards these murderers are trying to keep their horrific acts secret.

Can you imagine what Butler’s autopsy report will look like………I can’t try to imagine the fear these woman faced, breaks my heart for them and those that love them.

 

[Seattle1]

I thought I'd previously read that the full autopsies of the victims had been Ordered sealed from public release for six months but maybe I'm thinking of a different case... Nonetheless, withholding the full report may be extended up to 4 years and 6 months.

https://oklahoma.gov/content/dam/ok/en/ocme/documents/Office%20of%20the%20Chief%20Medical%20Examiner%20Statutes%20-%20Medicolegal%20Investigations-%2011-1-2022.pdf

G. At the conclusion of the ten (10) business‐day‐period, the full and complete report shall be made available as a public record except when a district attorney or law enforcement agency with authority to make a criminal investigation in connection with the death declares that the full and complete report contains information that would materially compromise an ongoing criminal investigation. Such declaration shall be inwriting to the Office of the Medical Examiner and be an open record available from the Office of Medical Examiner.

1. Upon such declaration, the district attorney or law enforcement agency shall request from the appropriate district court a hearing for an extension of time during which the full and complete autopsy report, not including information in the summary report, may be withheld.
2. When a request for an extension of time has been filed with the court, the full and complete autopsy report in question may be withheld until the court has issued a ruling on the requested extension of time to release the autopsy report. Such requests for an extension of time during which the autopsy may be withheld shall be made on the grounds that release of the full and complete autopsy report will materially compromise an ongoing criminal investigation.

3. Courts considering such requests shall conduct a hearing and consider whether the interests of the public outweigh the interests asserted by the district attorney or law enforcement agency.

4. If an extension of time is granted by the court, the initial extension shall be ordered by the court for a period of six (6) months. Subsequent extensions shall only be ordered after a hearing by the court for an additional one year and cumulative time extensions shall not exceed more than four (4) years and six (6)months; provided, under no circumstance shall an extension of time be granted by the court if the deceased person was in state custody, in custody of law enforcement or was deceased due to lethal action of a law enforcement officer.

5. In the event that six (6) months have expired from the date of the initial release of the autopsy report without any person being criminally charged in the case in question and release of the autopsy or portions of the autopsy have been denied on the grounds of materially compromising a criminal investigation, an appeal of such denial may be made to the appropriate district court. Courts considering appeals for temporarily withholding an autopsy report shall conduct a hearing and consider whether the interests of the public outweigh the interests asserted by the district attorney or law enforcement agency. In response to such appeals, the district court shall order that the autopsy report be made available for public inspection and copying with no redaction, or shall order an extension of time during which the autopsy report may be withheld under the provisions of this section.

6. Any court order obtained pursuant to this subsection shall be served upon the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner by the party requesting or granted the extension by the court.

 

[Knox]

Can you imagine what Butler’s autopsy report will look like………I can’t try to imagine the fear these woman faced, breaks my heart for them and those that love them.

The depravity is shocking. With the exception of Adams, none of the others had a beef with either of them. Where does that kind of willingness to participate in murder come from?

 

[MyJoey]

The depravity is shocking. With the exception of Adams, none of the others had a beef with either of them. Where does that kind of willingness to participate in murder come from?

Seriously hard to wrap the brain around, Adams seems to be the ring leader of bullies.

 

[CuriousCricket]

Another thing I can't begin to understand, or even imagine, is knowing something like this is planned and not reporting it . . . these people involved, in my opinion, are such depraved, dangerous creatures just allowing them to continue to live puts anyone in their paths in grave danger.

 

[Rixey]

Another thing I can't begin to understand, or even imagine, is knowing something like this is planned and not reporting it . . . these people involved, in my opinion, are such depraved, dangerous creatures just allowing them to continue to live puts anyone in their paths in grave danger.

I agree that anyone who knew anything of their plans *should* have reported it, but given what they have done, I can also understand being too afraid to say anything knowing that there was a very good chance that nothing would come of the report and that the retaliation could have been extreme. I think we can all agree the accused are a very scary bunch.

TA, TC and Cole all had ties to several people in positions of power locally, so it would have been very reasonable to believe that any report made locally could have been shared in one way or another with one of these "misfits".

And to be honest, without some sort of tangible evidence all you would have would be maybe someone talking about wanting to 'get rid of' someone else, and that could easily be dismissed as an over reaction to somebody just venting. TA had already done a pretty good job at convincing the local authorities & courts that VB was unfit, VBs family was unsafe, her own son was an addict/drunk and the great-grandmother was a nut who let the one of the kids get pecked at by turkeys.

Even after everything that has happened the 'anvil plan' still sounds nuts -- just imagine how it would sound if you knew nothing else, "Hi, I'd like to report a possible murder plan... they want to throw an anvil at them".

As much as I wish someone, or actually several someones, had said something beforehand, I'm very thankful that one person had the courage to do so after the fact so that justice can (hopefully) be obtained for VB, JK and their families.

 

[CuriousCricket]

I agree that anyone who knew anything of their plans *should* have reported it, but given what they have done, I can also understand being too afraid to say anything knowing that there was a very good chance that nothing would come of the report and that the retaliation could have been extreme. I think we can all agree the accused are a very scary bunch.

TA, TC and Cole all had ties to several people in positions of power locally, so it would have been very reasonable to believe that any report made locally could have been shared in one way or another with one of these "misfits".

And to be honest, without some sort of tangible evidence all you would have would be maybe someone talking about wanting to 'get rid of' someone else, and that could easily be dismissed as an over reaction to somebody just venting. TA had already done a pretty good job at convincing the local authorities & courts that VB was unfit, VBs family was unsafe, her own son was an addict/drunk and the great-grandmother was a nut who let the one of the kids get pecked at by turkeys.

Even after everything that has happened the 'anvil plan' still sounds nuts -- just imagine how it would sound if you knew nothing else, "Hi, I'd like to report a possible murder plan... they want to throw an anvil at them".

As much as I wish someone, or actually several someones, had said something beforehand, I'm very thankful that one person had the courage to do so after the fact so that justice can (hopefully) be obtained for VB, JK and their families.

You're right. Sometimes, just trying to report something might land the "whistle blower" in danger. And the anvil story -- totally nuts. So, yes, that makes sense. In this case, with the clout TA, TC and Cole appear to have had, even trying to go outside the small town to the state OBI or fed FBI might still have allowed word to get back to the dangerous, unhinged murderers. Very scary scenario.

 

[PommyMommy]

Updates since Oct 30, 2024

ADAMS, TIFANY MACHEL - OSCN Case Details
CULLUM, TAD BERT - OSCN Case Details
TWOMBLY, COLE EARL - OSCN Case Details
(All have the same entries below)

11/05/2024

MOTION TO AMEND ORDER GRANTING EXTENSION OF TIME FOR WITHHOLDING MEDICAL EXAMINER REPORTS Document Available (#1083375915) TIFF PDF
11/06/2024 STATE'S RESPONSE TO MOTION TO AMEND ORDER GRANTING EXTENSION OF TIME FOR WITHHOLDING MEDICAL EXAMINER REPORTS Document Available (#1083391145) TIFF PDF
11/08/2024 WITHDRAWAL OF REQUEST FOR HEARING AND MOTION TO STRIKE HEARING Document Available (#1083412922) TIFF PDF
11/12/2024 NOTICE TO THE COURT AND PARTIES Document Available (#1083429689) TIFF PDF
11/18/2024 MOTION TO ENDORSE ADDITIONAL WITNESSES Document Available (#1083478422) TIFF PDF
11/18/2024 MOTION TO ENDORSE ADDITIONAL WITNESSES Document Available (#1083478948) TIFF PDF

TWOMBLY, CORA GAYLE - OSCN Case Details
GRICE, PAUL JEREMIAH - OSCN Case Details
(Both have the same entries below)

11/12/2024

NOTICE TO THE COURT AND PARTIES Pursuant to 12 O.S. § 39, Document Available at Court Clerk's Office
11/19/2024 MOTION TO ENDORSE ADDITIONAL WITNESSES Pursuant to 12 O.S. § 39, Document Available at Court Clerk's Office

 

[PommyMommy]

And here we go...

The first Motion on 11/18 to Endorse Witnesses for the State is for Cora Twombly and Paul Grice.

The second 11/18 Motion to Endorse Additional Witnesses is for:

LJ, Employee of Tractor Supply
EM, Employee of Big R Standard Supply
CP, Employee of Big R Standard Supply
IM, Employee of Wal-Mart
KD, Employee of PTCI
IB, Employee of PTCI

OSCN Case Details

 

[Odeto BJ]

And here we go...

The first Motion on 11/18 to Endorse Witnesses for the State is for Cora Twombly and Paul Grice.



The second 11/18 Motion to Endorse Additional Witnesses is for:

LJ, Employee of Tractor Supply
EM, Employee of Big R Standard Supply
CP, Employee of Big R Standard Supply
IM, Employee of Wal-Mart
KD, Employee of PTCI
IB, Employee of PTCI

OSCN Case Details

Trimmed by YT.
As Pommy indicates.....Velly Intelesting, to quote Arte Johnson...

Of particular note: this document would indicate that Cora T. is a witness for the prosecution potentially testifying against Cole T.
I'm sure there is an intriguing back story associated with whatever deal has been made to have those two people testifying for the prosecution. The details that have already been established would indicate that at least one of the conspirers had disclosed the mechanics of the plot including the location of the bodies, shortly after the arrest of CT, CT, TC and TA.
MOO.

 

[NewMommy09]

NOV 15, 2024

https://www.ksn.com/news/crime/officials-delay-release-of-veronica-butlers-autopsy-report/

The medical examiner released the autopsy report for Jilian Kelley on Nov. 5, as attorneys for Adams, Cullum and Cole Twombly were asking the court to delay the release of the autopsy reports. The Texas County, Oklahoma, district attorney said Kelley’s autopsy report was released in error.

A judge has agreed to delay releasing Butler’s report for six months. The earliest it could be released is May 13, 2025, more than a year after she was murdered.

Paul Grice was transferred back to Texas County Jail Thursday night, the same jail as the other four suspects.

Thank you Pommy for posting this. I just checked this thread wondering why they had released Jilians results but not Veronicas. Am I alone in feeling like the mistake of releasing JK's autopsy results feels like another wound for the family of a woman who died just because she wanted to help people? I know we all want to know details. But honestly, if she was my loved one, the mistaken release of her info while VB's was not released would feel hard to take. I know mistakes happen, so this isn't about pointing fingers, just plain and simple empathy for that whole family as well as Veronicas loved ones who now probably have a good idea what happened to her as well.

Also, as others have said, this was a particularly ruthless murder of someone who had no skin in the game. It shows just a ruthless disregard for human life as a whole. The whole case has been horrifying since day 1.

 

[Leilei]

Veronica's autopsy report has been released.
Haven't finished reading it, but what made me catch my breath is the rope around her waist. Am I reading that correctly? My heart hurts for her :'(

Medical examiner report reveals details of Kansas woman’s death in Oklahoma

10 Investigates has obtained the full medical examiner report for Veronica Butler, one of the Kansas women killed in Texas County.

www.newschannel10.com