Found Deceased Olivia 5, Evelyn 8 & Paityn Decker 9, Endangered Alert, visitation w/ homeless dad Travis Decker 32, wh 2017 GMC Sierra PU, Wenatchee, 30 May 2025

it is such an unusual method of killing someone. I think the reasons for why he chose that method are going to important, in all cases, wheateher he planned it ahead, wheather he did it on the spot without planning ahead or wheather he had some sort of a break from reality. I really want to ask my friends to list methods how to kill someone and to see if anyone mentions this option in their list of 10 or 20 ideas.
I asked around a little and so far, no-one has mentioned such a method when trying to list possibilities.

Considering he is a veteran who served in Afganistan, then could this particular method be something he witnessed there? Say, is it possible that someone (his army mates, Taliban fighters, local troops, anyone) used this method on local kids? As most war crimes go unreported, it is unlikely we'll get a full picture, but I'm thinking more generally, that is this method "a thing" at that time and place where he served? I found some hints that it might be, but nothing of the degree I was expecting for "confirmation" that it might be. (I'm saying nothing about intent here, if this is a method he "picked up" in Afganistan, he could have used it in either "sane" mind or not).

So googling around I did find this article:
On November 24, an interpreter working with German troops was killed in Kunduz province, in northern Afghanistan. His body was found inside a vehicle with a plastic bag over his head and his hands tied behind his back with wire.

And this one:
Al-Ani was captured by Joint Special Operations Command troops in July 2003. He told investigators that during his capture, he was forced to lie on his stomach in the back of a vehicle with his hands bound and head covered in a plastic bag. According to a letter al-Ani wrote, his captor “put his foot on my back and started screaming and cursing me in English, which I do understand.

And this one:
After the Afghan children arrived at Samaritas, Grand Rapids police responded nearly every other day to calls for incidents like missing persons, suicide threats, fights and assaults. The police reports were unavailable, but internal shelter records document many of those incidents. One boy put a rope around his neck, “acting like he wanted to hang himself.” Another day, a boy tried to suffocate another child with a plastic bag. A few days later, a worker found a boy scratching his forearm. He told her that “when his body is in pain, it prevents his head from thinking about his problems.”
 
Why I think it is important to notice, is because it is such an unusual method of killing someone. I think the reasons for why he chose that method are going to important, in all cases, wheateher he planned it ahead, wheather he did it on the spot without planning ahead or wheather he had some sort of a break from reality. I really want to ask my friends to list methods how to kill someone and to see if anyone mentions this option in their list of 10 or 20 ideas.
Rsbm.
Wondering if TD had seen this in the news? speculation, imo.
Reminded of a 2021 case where the mother, a doctor, murdered her 3 little girls one after the other using zip ties.
She told them that they were going to make necklaces out of the zip ties, and then- applied them...
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How did he get it out there and did anyone see him with a motorcycle. It’s a good idea though.
Since he had no fixed address. Maybe he was based in that campground had some belongings there. The intensity of the search though seems like they don't think he took off from the area, but is going cross country on foot.
 
Rsbm.
Wondering if TD had seen this in the news? speculation, imo.
Reminded of a 2021 case where the mother, a doctor, murdered her 3 little girls one after the other using zip ties.
She told them that they were going to make necklaces out of the zip ties, and then- applied them...
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That's the situation I always remember because I believe that the mother was not competent in that moment

- She stopped medications in view of emigration to NZ
- I am not 100% sure that Citalopram covered all her symptoms, tbh
- among other things, she probably had something linked to sensory processing disorder and that made COVID isolation with three kids in one room very difficult
- didn't she have 18 failed IVFs and a pregnancy that ended up in giving birth to a premature child that didn't survive?
- she was slowly going towards depressed psychosis for at least a year, telling husband about her dark thoughts

In short, I felt that LD was own worst enemy and didn't need to stay in prison; if i am not mistaken, LD is in the hospital now for her mental state.

I am not sure that LD and TD would have the same underlying condition, but yes, this case which made me pay more attention to postpartum depression and "hormonal changes and depression", if you will

The difference is, 5 years later and in WA, we have to pay for plastic bags to buy grocery. Plastic bags have to be present in the car. You have to look for them.
 
What did he do to own dog? No one comments.
It was posted earlier in the thread that the Humane Society posted that the dog was recovered alive:
I believe the page has been deleted now, but on the FB page that the girls' mother created, someone posted screenshots of Chinook's (the dog) humane society page after the dog was recovered from the crime scene.
 
Per a U.S. Marshals Service affidavit obtained by Fox 13 Seattle, the Independent and NBC Right Now, authorities said they were worried that Decker was attempting to flee the United States after allegedly looking up phrases including "how to relocate to Canada" and "how does a person move to Canada" on May 26.


He also reportedly searched for information tied to a Canadian job site, the outlets said, citing the affidavit.

 
This case brings to mind how technology could help parents with similar concerns about their children. I know if I had children and worried about the other parent I would use airtags and/or jewelry for tracking purposes. Even if though he took them to an area that probably didn't have good service, she may have had some general idea of where they were sooner. Amazon has so much to choose from. My heart breaks for their family, especially their mom that tried her best to protect them and to keep their dad in their lives...so dang sad.
 
Per a U.S. Marshals Service affidavit obtained by Fox 13 Seattle, the Independent and NBC Right Now, authorities said they were worried that Decker was attempting to flee the United States after allegedly looking up phrases including "how to relocate to Canada" and "how does a person move to Canada" on May 26.


He also reportedly searched for information tied to a Canadian job site, the outlets said, citing the affidavit.

While I'm not sure you can be in "your right mind" and also murder your children, I do think anyone that is in their right mind would do those searches and realize you can't just waltz across the border and get a job the way you can move to another city and do that. It would be even a zillion times harder to do it, if you knew LE was looking for you.

It seems more logical to me that was an idea he had & realized it wouldn't work, not that he was planning to attempt it after he killed his kids.
 
Well, tbh, much as people from Idaho are religious as he is, they are harsh folks and won’t tolerate this stuff for long, so I won’t go that route. Although, to travel to Montana and then, Wyoming, and he can survive there for years.

But most logical would be to go South to Eastern Oregon and then, SW to the Bay Area. He can hide among their homeless all his life. His searches might be a red herring or a distraction.
I wouldn’t rule out Idaho. There are some antisocial groups there he could be embraced by if he told them the right “I’m being set up/persecuted” story. They’d see his ranger training, even as incomplete is it was, as an asset.

As for zip ties, he may sympathize with another similar antisocial group that famously had zip ties in their possession while committing crimes just a few years ago. Zip ties are floating in the ether so they may have been near the top of his mind when he started planning this.
 
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Referencing @DS2021 post #829! I agree,”Yeah! there’s a whole lotta vast wilderness to search”.

Interesting read:

It could be months’: Experts evaluate Decker’s survival odds


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I have paraphrased (compressed) the information shared by expert Jason Knight who helps run a school for wilderness survival.
“Jason Knight says surviving comes down to a some basic principles.
1 You can survive roughly three hours without regulated body temperature before hypothermia can do you in, roughly three days without water before it becomes lethal, and roughly three weeks without food before starvation starts to become a problem.
2 With the right skills, you can live off the land
3 There’s the social isolation aspect & health and medical issues that come up.
4 When someone doesn’t want to be found, it further complicates search efforts even more so when they have military experience or have lived off the grid.

As for how long someone could last, It’s hard to say — with the environment you’re in, the skills you have or don’t have, the emergencies that come up along the way,” he said. “It’s an unknown. It could be days, it could be months.”
 
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I think he’s overly confident in his skills. And I think Brian Laundrie had every intention of seeing how far he could make it before he offed himself. Something tells me TD will remain alive unless and until he feels LE gets close enough to capture him.

IDK what the point is to going off grid to end it all unless he just wants to be out in nature when it happens.

I also wouldn’t be too sure he wouldn’t engage in a shoot out. As former military, I doubt he got rid of his weapons. Someone who kills their daughters won’t care if he has to injure or kill someone in uniform.

I honestly think he thinks he did a hard “reset” to rid himself of responsibility he clearly couldn’t handle.
 
I think he’s overly confident in his skills. And I think Brian Laundrie had every intention of seeing how far he could make it before he offed himself. Something tells me TD will remain alive unless and until he feels LE gets close enough to capture him.

IDK what the point is to going off grid to end it all unless he just wants to be out in nature when it happens.

I also wouldn’t be too sure he wouldn’t engage in a shoot out. As former military, I doubt he got rid of his weapons. Someone who kills their daughters won’t care if he has to injure or kill someone in uniform.

I honestly think he thinks he did a hard “reset” to rid himself of responsibility he clearly couldn’t handle.
I think so too. He may even see himself as a Jon Rambo character, a highly skilled military soldier with shellshock being unfairly harassed by hostile official entities and he wants to disappear into the forest to live alone.

When his ex said he’s lived off grid for a few months at a time before, I wonder where and what time of the year and what his setup was. Whether you’re on the maritime side or the continental side, northwest winters in the wilderness are no joke, and a guy with just a backpack’s worth of stuff, even with caches, won’t last long without being able to run to the store or have someone deliver stuff to him. He has limited money, I’d imagine his accounts will be frozen, and some shops are now cashless and of course have surveillance cameras.

Unless caught or leaves the wilderness, he’s going to end up like Chris McCandless (Into The Wild), the man who ran to Alaska, underestimated the environment and overestimated his own ability, and died.
 
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His dog and daughters “are the two big positives in his life,” she said, according to the affidavit.

“He was very active with their extracurricular activities, their dance, their soccer games, all of those things. He was very involved

near the end of their marriage, her ex-husband was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, and she did not think he was taking his medication, according to the police affidavit.

In September 2024, a judge granted Whitney and Decker a parenting plan with limitations after an incident in which Decker kept the girls overnight at a homeless shelter and allowed them to go to a corner store unsupervised,

More at
 
His dog and daughters “are the two big positives in his life,” she said, according to the affidavit.

“He was very active with their extracurricular activities, their dance, their soccer games, all of those things. He was very involved

near the end of their marriage, her ex-husband was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, and she did not think he was taking his medication, according to the police affidavit.

In September 2024, a judge granted Whitney and Decker a parenting plan with limitations after an incident in which Decker kept the girls overnight at a homeless shelter and allowed them to go to a corner store unsupervised,

More at
Kept the girls at a homeless shelter overnight? That is definitely not protective father behavior.
 

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