Oprah Show - Bird Flu Pandemic

[christine2448]

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[DEPUTYDAWG]

Coming on here to confess my ignorance, really... :banghead:

What have the other countries done to stop the spread "over there?" I see the news clips where they're wearing the masks (but probably not the ones that actually protect)...and I know they're slaughtering birds by the thousands.

But, do they have city quarantines? Are businesses closed? Schools? Travel restrictions, etc? Just wondering. I know the human deaths aren't in the thousands, but didn't know what they have in place.

TIA

 

[eve]

Coming on here to confess my ignorance, really... :banghead:

What have the other countries done to stop the spread "over there?" I see the news clips where they're wearing the masks (but probably not the ones that actually protect)...and I know they're slaughtering birds by the thousands.

But, do they have city quarantines? Are businesses closed? Schools? Travel restrictions, etc? Just wondering. I know the human deaths aren't in the thousands, but didn't know what they have in place.

TIA

Would it surprise you if everyone was relying on us in the good-ole-unpopular-except-when-they-need-us USA to take care of seeing to it that it doesn't spread?

Eve

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Would it surprise you if everyone was relying on us in the good-ole-unpopular-except-when-they-need-us USA to take care of seeing to it that it doesn't spread?

Eve

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[j2mirish]

Would it surprise you if everyone was relying on us in the good-ole-unpopular-except-when-they-need-us USA to take care of seeing to it that it doesn't spread?

Eve

--DOESNT SURPRISE LITTLE OLE ME.............................

 

[scandi]

Good Morning DeputyDawg!

In the foreign countries it seems most of the general population have contact with birds of some kind. From Turkey to China they traditionally have birds running around in their yards, raise them for food or even fighting, etc. I saw that on the CNN show.

This contact with birds directly in everyday life might have caused the flu to take lives there. And the droppings of birds have the virus which causes problems as well, as it stays active for some time. Even dangerous in fertalizer, which caused one death I heard of from a lady taking care of her plants.

What I found scary was the birds that migrate from the Middle East up and over towards Canada do carry the virus. It is one way they said the virus can travel across the ocean!

Scandi

ETA: What I forgot to say is I think in the East they are killing a lot of these birds to help stop the spread of the virus.

 

[txsvicki]

Good Morning DeputyDawg!

In the foreign countries it seems most of the general population have contact with birds of some kind. From Turkey to China they traditionally have birds running around in their yards, raise them for food or even fighting, etc. I saw that on the CNN show.

This contact with birds directly in everyday life might have caused the flu to take lives there. And the droppings of birds have the virus which causes problems as well, as it stays active for some time. Even dangerous in fertalizer, which caused one death I heard of from a lady taking care of her plants.

What I found scary was the birds that migrate from the Middle East up and over towards Canada do carry the virus. It is one way they said the virus can travel across the ocean!

Scandi

ETA: What I forgot to say is I think in the East they are killing a lot of these birds to help stop the spread of the virus.

Here where I live, those birds and geese fly down from Canada. One of the public libraries has a lake beside it and those things poop all over the sidewalk. I'm a little concerned about people walking over it and probably getting some germs on the shoes.

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Would it surprise you if everyone was relying on us in the good-ole-unpopular-except-when-they-need-us USA to take care of seeing to it that it doesn't spread?

Eve

Uhhhhhh...no, it really wouldn't! :doh:
And great post, BTW

Soooooo...other than kill the birds and stop them from running around in the streets, etc. (or maybe they don't!)....no quarantines, no travel restrictions within their own countries, etc?

 

[Maral]

Uhhhhhh...no, it really wouldn't! :doh:
And great post, BTW

Soooooo...other than kill the birds and stop them from running around in the streets, etc. (or maybe they don't!)....no quarantines, no travel restrictions within their own countries, etc?

There are some countries doing their part to try to prevent the spread of bird flu.
China Hosts Confernce to Rais Money for Worldwide Bird Flu Preparedness

According to the article, there have been less than 100 confirmed human deaths attributed to the bird flu since 2003. And "most, if not all, confirmed human cases of H5N1 so far have involved animal-to-human infection."

 

[Marthatex]

Roche has agreed to donate more antiviral to the stockpile. Roche is based in Switzerland, not the U.S. The idea is to contain the outbreak in say, a third world country, to delay its spread across the globe.

Hopefully, a vaccine could be developed once a human to human virus is isolated, but this would take time.

Each country should have a Pandemic Flu Reaction Plan. Do we have one?

 

[scandi]

And who knows when this virus will mutate and be passed person to person. Nothing really can be done till that happens I think, and they said this Teraflu won't be that effective as it will not be zoned in on the mutated virus.

I'm sitting here laughing at myself as I am in no way a scientist. I could be all wrong!

Scandi

 

[Buzz Mills]

Here where I live, those birds and geese fly down from Canada. One of the public libraries has a lake beside it and those things poop all over the sidewalk. I'm a little concerned about people walking over it and probably getting some germs on the shoes.

The expected migration path of the bird flu, via birds, is up to Siberia, then across into Alaska, and Canada, and then down through the U.S. This is expected to take, at least, another year.

My cats will go stir crazy, if I have to keep them indoors.

 

[j2mirish]

The expected migration path of the bird flu, via birds, is up to Siberia, then across into Alaska, and Canada, and then down through the U.S. This is expected to take, at least, another year.

My cats will go stir crazy, if I have to keep them indoors.

how about 2 cats, 2 kids.. 1 dog ---husband and wife?? :snooty: :waitasec:
( and 2 birds- but they live in a cage! )

 

[KrazyKollector]

My husband is in the water pollution control portion of the city services. If this ends up being as bad as is being predicted by some, I think it's going to be quite devestating. If the workers there get sick, there would be no one to clean and filter the sludge, or to test it for safety. No one to stop it all from running into Lake Erie:sick: . Illnesses run through plants like that because it's a small area of working space that isn't the lab or the sludge beds.

My hope is they find a vaccine that can at least be used to help somewhat or at least to innoculate the workers who are vital to keeping everyone as safe as possible (utility workers, medical and safety forces, doctors and nurses...)

Suzi

I didn't watch the Oprah show (but my sister did, and just freaked). IMO, it is just a matter of time before it ends up here in the US, but to what extend and how widespread, etc., I have no idea. However, I had already thought about things that I would start stockpiling as the time grows near.

Certain services, or actually, lack thereof, do worry me. Of course, for me...BF is a firefighter, and I work in LE. Those first responders are always on the forefront of getting everything there is to get! Same with the medical staffs. So, take the fire department. Yep, you can vaccinate them for the flu, but if things are supposed to be quarantined, etc. - who's going to perform those fire services, and allllllll the medical emergencies that they respond to? And like some are predicting - hospitals won't be much help because they'll be overwhelmed already. So what do you do with those needing immediate care and/or long-term care. And same with LE. I haven't heard our agency talking about contingency plans yet - I'm sure the "powers that be" may (SHOULD) be working on it, but I just haven't heard anything yet. I'm certainly interested to know what may take place.

And water, sewer, other utilty workers and services. And then schools (homeschooling anyone?). It goes on and on. I'm not freaking or panicking, but when you start thinking about it, it could indeed be catastrophic to businesses and the economy.

 

[KrazyKollector]

Would it surprise you if everyone was relying on us in the good-ole-unpopular-except-when-they-need-us USA to take care of seeing to it that it doesn't spread?

Eve

Won't surprise me at all. Won't surprise me either when we get blamed for not acting fast enough or giving enough or doing enough or even dying enough.

The one thing that we DO have, in many nations, is the ability to keep things cleaner than what it was in 1918. We can also hydrate people with IVs and sterilize better, giving those who are hit with it a better chance at survival.

If it does hit here, I am hoping that with extra sanitary procedures, masks and gloves, we will stand a much better chance than the souls of 1918.

Also, think of getting a portable shower set up in a garage or utility room.
Gloves, masks and paper overalls. :twocents:

Suzi

 

[Michelle Read]

Breakthrough in bird flu vaccine...


http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/conditions/01/26/birdflu.vaccine.reut/index.html

 

[Michelle Read]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/conditions/11/21/pandemic.fears/index.html

Experts: Pandemic fears premature
Bird flu spread possible, not probable, officials caution...

snip~

If a bird were to be infected with the virus, cooking it to a temperature above 158 degrees Fahrenheit will kill the virus, according to the WHO.

"To date, no evidence indicates that any person has become infected with the H5N1 virus following the consumption of properly cooked poultry or poultry products, even in cases where the food item contained the virus prior to cooking," according to the World Health Organization.

 

[Buzz Mills]

Breakthrough in bird flu vaccine...


http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/conditions/01/26/birdflu.vaccine.reut/index.html

This is great news--thank God, for the technology enabling them to do this so quickly and efficiently. They say, in the article, that there is a good chance it will even work against mutated forms of the virus. That's awesome.

 

[Becba]

Breakthrough in bird flu vaccine...


http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/conditions/01/26/birdflu.vaccine.reut/index.html

Thank goodness. I was wondering how I was going to buy all those things to stock up on! Now let's just hope it gets distributed.

 

[Michelle Read]

Thank goodness. I was wondering how I was going to buy all those things to stock up on! Now let's just hope it gets distributed.

I was wondering how I was going to keep my daughter from thinking I am a nutcase.... first being so overprotective from strangers, warning her of the dangers of predators, etc. I could just see her face if I suggested she start wearing a face mask in public!