Identified! OR - Cave Junction, 'Annie Doe' WhtFem UP10929, 16-20, Redwood Hwy, Aug'71 - Annie Lehman

  • #121
Since she's under 21, NCMEC might have resources.
 
  • #122
KLEE-
I am assuming that you have seen whatever photos are available. Would you call her hair red (like that wig is RED) or could her family have classified her as auburn or brown?

Also, her outfit suggests that she cared for her appearance to an extent and was not living out of a tent for any length of time. My guess is she was traveling from the southern OR area towards the coast based on where she was left. Did anyone come forward saying that had seen her around the area?

The map suggests she was traveling. Were there any markings on the map?

TIA
 
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  • #124
Random thoughts and bits of this and that....

"AL" - I was googling AL and was researching all sorts of AL associated meanings. For some reason, this one caught my eye in particular from Answers.com:
"...What does AL stand for?"


"Answer:
Anno Lucis (the Year of Light) is a calendar system used in freemasonry. It is based on the Anno Mundi work of Bishop Ussher, 1581-1656, who determined that the the date of creation was 4004BC which the Freemasons modified to 4000BC for the purposes of AL. Adding Anno Mundi (modified) to the current date gives Anno Lucis; making 2010 AD = 6010 AL. Dates on foundation stones of Masonic Lodges are all in AL."

Then, the RED HAIR. I learned that only 2% of the American population have RED HAIR! How many registered missing persons are there with RED HAIR? For someone who knows how to search and cross index, this should *really* help narrow things down. The biggest population of RED HEADS is found in SCOTLAND with 13%.

Next, the CLOTHES. Wranglers and the shoes that are a Woolworths brand. Both the wranglers and those shoes were readily available in both the US and Scotland during 1971. Back in 1971, one in five purchases of jeans were wrangler jeans.

The fact a REDHEAD who is a 2%er in the US and has not been identified, leads me to wonder if she was visiting from Scotland, Ireland when she was victimized. I'm going to do more searches and see if I can find anything referring to missing tourists or news clippings from Dublin, Edinborough, etc. Needle in a haystack, but it kinda makes sense to me.

I just reread the news article re: the finding of Annie Doe's remains. They found a SILVER WEDDING BAND as well.....I certainly hope they took that band to a jeweler for analysis. That band could help determine her origin, quite possibly! Anyone know if this has been explored?

I've explored the silver band as well and it's on the NamUs site.
 
  • #125
Yes, you are absolutely right. Certain areas where there was an influx of Scottish/Irish immigrants such as MA, etc. have higher percentages of Reds. The 🤬🤬🤬 avg. in the USA is stated as 2%. There's also some interesting folklore and other stats associated with Reds, and I wonder if you aren't right that they are more of a target. That in itself would be an interesting study.

All this said, I'm wondering if Annie's remains have been kept? Especially the skull. I am also wondering if there's anyway possible to get another rendering of her done. The original was probably pretty good for 1971, but I'm sure we could bring her more to life and increase the probability of identification. I know police resources are very slim. Anyone know of this being done in the past and how to go about it?

A new rendering is being done but I'm not sure when it might be done. Yes, we have her in Portland (including her skull).
 
  • #126
KLEE-
I am assuming that you have seen whatever photos are available. Would you call her hair red (like that wig is RED) or could her family have classified her as auburn or brown?

Also, her outfit suggests that she cared for her appearance to an extent and was not living out of a tent for any length of time. My guess is she was traveling from the southern OR area towards the coast based on where she was left. Did anyone come forward saying that had seen her around the area?

The map suggests she was traveling. Were there any markings on the map?

TIA

Oh that map - it was too dissagrated and no marking were noted. I would LOVE to see that map!!!!!!!!!!!! The hair, it could go either way, red or auborn. I wouldn't go brown.
 
  • #127
Oh that map - it was too dissagrated and no marking were noted. I would LOVE to see that map!!!!!!!!!!!! The hair, it could go either way, red or auborn. I wouldn't go brown.

Were there enough blonde streaks that someone might have described her as "strawberry blonde"?
 
  • #128
Were there enough blonde streaks that someone might have described her as "strawberry blonde"?

No, more red than auborn though
 
  • #129
The clay recreation of Annie was done fairly recently FYI so not sure how interested LE is in getting another one done unless it is by a volunteer.
 
  • #130
The clay recreation of Annie was done fairly recently FYI so not sure how interested LE is in getting another one done unless it is by a volunteer.

It's going to be done by the Portland ME's office
 
  • #131
The clay recreation of Annie was done fairly recently FYI so not sure how interested LE is in getting another one done unless it is by a volunteer.

There have been significant breakthroughs in the software used to generate reconstructions, which makes them much more lifelike and much more likely to be recognized by friends or family of a missing person. So many older cases are updating.
 
  • #132
I think I'm going to take her image and put it through photoshop real quick to get her a bit more smoothed out and somewhat life-like
 
  • #133
Okay so everyone here is totally allowed to make fun of my and my reconstruction of Annie Doe.

I gave her my eyes and I gave her my hair (Back when I was a super red-head) to make her look a tiny bit more realistic. I also gave her eyebrows, attempted to give her lips, and smoothed out her face a bit.

What do you think? I'm going to go ahead and try again with the hair, I don't personally like it, and maybe try her with Blue eyes instead of hazel..

And then I also added in the one where I just smoothed everything out so it'll be a little easier to compare with the overly smooth profile photos of the 70s.
 

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  • #134
Okay so everyone here is totally allowed to make fun of my and my reconstruction of Annie Doe.

I gave her my eyes and I gave her my hair (Back when I was a super red-head) to make her look a tiny bit more realistic. I also gave her eyebrows, attempted to give her lips, and smoothed out her face a bit.

What do you think? I'm going to go ahead and try again with the hair, I don't personally like it, and maybe try her with Blue eyes instead of hazel..

And then I also added in the one where I just smoothed everything out so it'll be a little easier to compare with the overly smooth profile photos of the 70s.

Wow, that is a real improvement! Is there any way you can do a second version with browner hair?
 
  • #135
Okay so everyone here is totally allowed to make fun of my and my reconstruction of Annie Doe.

I gave her my eyes and I gave her my hair (Back when I was a super red-head) to make her look a tiny bit more realistic. I also gave her eyebrows, attempted to give her lips, and smoothed out her face a bit.

What do you think? I'm going to go ahead and try again with the hair, I don't personally like it, and maybe try her with Blue eyes instead of hazel..

And then I also added in the one where I just smoothed everything out so it'll be a little easier to compare with the overly smooth profile photos of the 70s.

Nice job! The hint of makeup with her lips and eyebrows really helps make her look more alive.
 
  • #136
Wow, that is a real improvement! Is there any way you can do a second version with browner hair?

Yeah! That should be super easy. I can probably have it done by tonight once I get out of school.



... Anyone else a little disturbed by how much she looks like Kate Winslet in my first picture? Just me?
 
  • #137
So I made her hair more brown while still being what I'd consider auburn. I'm really bad with hair colours though, so it might still not be brown enough.
 

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  • #138
So I apologize for kind of bombarding this thread.

KLEE, I take it you work on this case? If so (or if not), have you seen an autopsy image of her? How accurate, do you think, is her nose? I know cartilage sticks around for a while, so I'm assuming it'd be pretty accurate. While working on her face in photoshop I kept noticing how Native American her features look. Was her hair obviously dyed (Other than the streaks)?
 
  • #139
I think its awesome that you have taken the time to do it EmmaliLucia!!! :-) Every night i look to see what is happening in the thread. Went through the list that Klee put up but dont think any of them are likely. Gives us all something different to work with. :-)
 
  • #140
So I made her hair more brown while still being what I'd consider auburn. I'm really bad with hair colours though, so it might still not be brown enough.

:rocker:
thanks!
 

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