Identified! OR - Cave Junction, 'Annie Doe' WhtFem UP10929, 16-20, Redwood Hwy, Aug'71 - Annie Lehman

[rosesfromangels]

I was just looking at the pictures found in Seattle locker belonging to serial killer Rodney alcala. Creeeeepy. There is a redhead who could certainly for our profile for Annie Doe.

 

[EmmaliLucia]

I was under the impression that Rodney's pictures were all taken later than 1971.

 

[wantjustice]

I want these old cases to be solved. They make me so sad

 

[carbuff]

I was just looking at the pictures found in Seattle locker belonging to serial killer Rodney alcala. Creeeeepy. There is a redhead who could certainly for our profile for Annie Doe.

Do you have a pointer to the photo you're talking about?

 

[KLEE]

Aweful quite ya'll

 

[dizzigirl1]

Do we have anyone ruled out or looking positive? I had a look for photos in the Alcala files but i have no idea what picture is being mentioned here.

 

[deca]

Yeah, I reached the limit of my..uh...limited abilities. I keep checking the "new" MP that reach the web, though.

 

[dizzigirl1]

Yeah, I reached the limit of my..uh...limited abilities. I keep checking the "new" MP that reach the web, though.

I know what you mean. i keep looking at Niki Britten and can't move away from her.

 

[AnotherSetOfEyes]

Finally read the thread from start to finish. Some outside the box thoughts on people who have been suggested...

Martha Sue Shelton. Although she was ruled out as Annie Doe. Could this be her jewelry? And her husband's wedding ring?

Donna Ann Lass. There is some speculation that she was a victim of the Zodiac Killer. Has she been ruled out? It looks like one of the prime suspects name was Arthur Leigh Allen. (A.L.?) I skimmed a huge profile on him and it said that they confiscated a large collection of knives. I wonder if the knife found at the scene where Annie Doe was found matched any of those. Even if Donna Lass is not Annie Doe, could the Zodiac killer be involved here?

And finally, the way outside the box thought. The Zodiac killer liked to kill couples. Could he be tied to both the Shelton's disappearance and Annie Does?

 

[EmmaliLucia]

I have always thought that Donna looks like Annie Doe, face wise.

The hair is what throws me off a little bit though.

 

[KLEE]

I know what you mean. i keep looking at Niki Britten and can't move away from her.

Niki has been DNA excluded

 

[KLEE]

Finally read the thread from start to finish. Some outside the box thoughts on people who have been suggested...

Martha Sue Shelton. Although she was ruled out as Annie Doe. Could this be her jewelry? And her husband's wedding ring?

Donna Ann Lass. There is some speculation that she was a victim of the Zodiac Killer. Has she been ruled out? It looks like one of the prime suspects name was Arthur Leigh Allen. (A.L.?) I skimmed a huge profile on him and it said that they confiscated a large collection of knives. I wonder if the knife found at the scene where Annie Doe was found matched any of those. Even if Donna Lass is not Annie Doe, could the Zodiac killer be involved here?

And finally, the way outside the box thought. The Zodiac killer liked to kill couples. Could he be tied to both the Shelton's disappearance and Annie Does?

The problem I have with anyone taken against their will is THAT MAP in her back pocket! That DOES NOT mean she was not taken against her will but, SHE WAS her for a purpose.

KEEP THINKING - inside and outside that box. I'm not fond of boxes so ...

 

[KLEE]

Evening all,

No ideas why not thought from this angle. Maybe some of you have and sorry if I missing it.

Are there any males found or missing in the area and time of Annie?

I don't know if I will have time to research this week due to a project I'm still working on for the Sheriff. Any time I have will be looking at any missing or found deceased males during that time and would appreciate your input.
Annie was here for a reason. The map in her pocket, WISH WE HAD THAT or at least pics of that map! I love my husband! BUT if there is something we want to find at a later time, I get it. Adventurous couple?

A.L. That ring and the map are the clue we need. As we only have the RINGS, not just the AL mother of pearl, we also have the silver made in NJ ring. Some describe as a friendship ring, some as more. The website I've looked at says it unisex. The size is right for a female at 6.5 for ring fingers and would also fit a male little finger I think.

How about we start looking for a male and the silver ring? Flip the case upside down and on its head!

Thoughts or impressions?
Any thoughts in this direction?

 

[KLEE]

Evening all,

No ideas why not thought from this angle. Maybe some of you have and sorry if I missing it.

Are there any males found or missing in the area and time of Annie?

I don't know if I will have time to research this week due to a project I'm still working on for the Sheriff. Any time I have will be looking at any missing or found deceased males during that time and would appreciate your input.
Annie was here for a reason. The map in her pocket, WISH WE HAD THAT or at least pics of that map! I love my husband! BUT if there is something we want to find at a later time, I get it. Adventurous couple?

A.L. That ring and the map are the clue we need. As we only have the RINGS, not just the AL mother of pearl, we also have the silver made in NJ ring. Some describe as a friendship ring, some as more. The website I've looked at says it unisex. The size is right for a female at 6.5 for ring fingers and would also fit a male little finger I think.

How about we start looking for a male and the silver ring? Flip the case upside down and on its head!

Thoughts or impressions?
Any thoughts in this direction?

Who's game to help me with this?

 

[CarlK90245]

Of the publicly listed MP's from CharleyProject, DoeNetwork, NAMPN, or NamUs, I see three males missing from Oregon between 01-Jan-68 and 31-Dec-74.

Steven Lamb (1968) http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lamb_steven.html
Kenneth King Wilson (1973) https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/15511/0
Charles Darrow Lloyd (1974) http://www.nampn.org/cases/lloyd_charles_darrow.html

From Northern California, I see 13

Peter Bonick (1970) http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/bonick_peter.html
Richard Lamson (1970) http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/l/lamson_richard.html
Charles Hollingsworth (1970) http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hollingsworth_charles.html
Lewis Barrett Welch Jr. (1971) http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/welch_lewis.html
Randy David McBee (1971) www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mcbee_randy.html
Roger Glen Carlson (1972) https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11432/2
Dikran Knadjian (1972) https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/19337/0
James Colin Egan (1972) http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/e/egan_james.html
Charles Howard Bolter (1972) http://www.charleyproject.org/case/b/bolter_charles.html
Richard Edward Strehle (1973) http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/strehle_richard.html
Juan Puente Guzman (1974) https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14553/0
Alan Wayne Soper (1974) http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/soper_alan.html
Stephen Locke Packard (1974) http://www.nampn.org/cases/packard_stephen.html

 

[EmmaliLucia]

Two couples (And one trio) went missing in the two years before Annie was found.

Edward and Stephania Andrews

Thomas Rios, Jimmy Williams, and Leah Johnson



and

Claude and Martha Shelton

 

[KLEE]

Well, that should keep me busy. THANKS

 

[dizzigirl1]

In the article that Grateful1 posted back in post #71, it states Annie was covered by a box when she was found. Did that box have anything on it that could suggest where it came from? I have just been working through all the posts this afternoon. The location in the article states "Side road going to Cook Ranch, just south of rough and ready creek on the east side of highway 199 about 1/5 mile off the highway. Being in australia & honestly rather hopeless at direction does this mean she was heading towards california or away from california? Meaning she had possibly already been there and was on way home somewhere more north? I hope i make sense.

 

[KLEE]

In the article that Grateful1 posted back in post #71, it states Annie was covered by a box when she was found. Did that box have anything on it that could suggest where it came from? I have just been working through all the posts this afternoon. The location in the article states "Side road going to Cook Ranch, just south of rough and ready creek on the east side of highway 199 about 1/5 mile off the highway. Being in australia & honestly rather hopeless at direction does this mean she was heading towards california or away from california? Meaning she had possibly already been there and was on way home somewhere more north? I hope i make sense.

That makes sense to me. I have no further information on the box unfortunately, nor any pictures of it. Her location is MP35 on the east side about .5 miles off the highway. No, if this was a "dump", a driver heading north - towards Washington and Canada would turn right. If heading south - towards California would turn left. As we drive on the right side of the road it make more sense to me that she was coming FROM california north. But, thats a guess, no proof.

 

[deca]

That is my guess as well, but it puzzles me why she wasn't dumped earlier on the road given they had just driven 45 minutes through the woods and were just approaching a town. I suppose s/he could have killed her in the heat of the moment or something.
Perhaps they had pulled over to stop for the night- sleep out of the car- and then it happened.

Keep working on this one KLEE- someone has got to be missing this girl.