OR - Emilio Hoffman, 14, killed in Troutdale high school shooting, 10 June 2014

[Elley Mae]

REMINDER:

Gun control discussions go here: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Bump :truce:

 

[SStarr33]

I can't think of anything that can be done to stop school shootings. The interiors could be made as secure as government buildings or airports, but that would not stop shootings outside the schools. The root of this problem lies in our Constitution. Please don't get me wrong I believe in the right to bear arms but I am willing to give up that right if it would lead to a safer society. I am just sick of hearing that guns don't kill people. Tell that to the parents who have lost a child due to a shooting whether in a school or not. My dh calls these events, school shooting du jour! That is exactly what it has become.

Sorry, I am not.

 

[LolaMoon08]

It may have to come down to something like this. Another example of parents being held responsible for their kids actions is under age drinking within the home...even if the parents aren't home when it transpires!!!!!

Unfortunately, a good number of these instances also involve perpetrators who acquired their weapons on their own--often legally. In fact I'm only away of the Sandy Hook shooting where wasn't the case????

I don't have any answers or even suggestions on those who obtain guns legally and use them in these school/mass shootings. And any suggestions I would have I'd have to go into the other forum about these issues and I don't want to do that.

I just know that parents should really be held responsible when their children (minor or adult) have free access to their weapons that they should only have free access to.

Maybe it will make them be a little bit more responsible with their guns if they know they'll be charged with a felony and won't be able to even own a gun any longer because they are a convicted felon?

 

[tlcya]

any word confirming if the shooter was a student and if so who?

 

[Spice]

The thing is, the NRA (not that I am looking to stir anything up) is too powerful. I don't know that we could ever get mental health laws passed, in regards to guns. It's such a crazy uphill battle.

We can't get anything passed. That is for sure.

And they are incredibly powerful. But nothing and no one is more powerful than the people when we organize and demand, truly demand change. We just have to stop fighting about it, and being so very divided about every single thing. Especially this. We need compromise.

 

[LaborDayRN]

The thing is, the NRA (not that I am looking to stir anything up) is too powerful. I don't know that we could ever get mental health laws passed, in regards to guns. It's such a crazy uphill battle.

But we can't stop trying.....for the sake of our children. Common ground must be found.

(Apologies, I'll take future comment to the gun control thread)

 

[JLSChook]

Presser delayed until 12:15

 

[CARIIS]

Adam Lanza obtained his guns legally, on his own, and also the ones that his mother gifted.

As did Seung Cho, a person so mentally ill he should have NEVER passed a background check. I think he purchased mostly through the internet.

As did Rodgers, another mentally unstable person with a well documented history of being prescribed, Anti Psychotics, yet was STILL able to purchase deadly weapons legally and passed all background checks.

The list goes on and on and on and on.

Yeh, and isnt this sad that now they have to be "labeled" by city..............the Los Vegas one, was advertsing on Facebook for a gun link in that post .........

We had a fire drill now and then..............................and they were fun!.

 

[blue22]

We can't get anything passed. That is for sure.

And they are incredibly powerful. But nothing and no one is more powerful than the people when we organize and demand, truly demand change. We just have to stop fighting about it, and being so very divided about every single thing. Especially this. We need compromise.

I agree. I would love to find common ground, but it just isn't working. People want all or nothing, it seems.

 

[Kimster]

:modstop:

THIS is not the gun control thread. :nono:


THIS --->Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community is a link to the gun control discussion thread.

 

[Kimster]

Any identification on the perp yet?

Does anyone know the answer to this question?

 

[JLSChook]

Shooter hasn't been named yet. Presser in a few minutes

 

[bettybaby00]

Does anyone know the answer to this question?

Nothing announced as far as I can tell.

Maybe in the news conference?

 

[JLSChook]

Couple links for presser

http://koin.com/video/livestream/

http://www.katu.com/news/live2

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Does anyone know the answer to this question?

Speculation only until confirmed by LE. Shooter not currently a student; perhaps former student.

LE presser at quarter past the hour.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Press conference (watching CNN):

Still notifying next of kin of victim and shooter. No IDs at this time.

Teacher injured. Gun found on another person who was taken into custody.

Reunification continues for parents to pick up kids.

Plenty of first responders.

Superintendent thanks responders, staff, students.

Counselors available for students who need help.

Notification of school closure later today.

Mayor impressed with LE response.

Another media report at 4:00PM.

 

[JLSChook]

Lone gunman entered school

Suspect deceased at scene

Notifying next of kin for both. (shooter and deceased victim) Tentatively identified shooter but are not releasing details yet

Rifle was weapon

1 teacher injured non life threatening

One gun (not related) was found on another person---in custody

 

[daisy7]

2 SROs were at the school and they brought the incident to an end

 

[JLSChook]

next briefing 4 PM

 

[Isabelle]

2 SROs were at the school and they brought the incident to an end

I liked the way that was worded. I take it the SROs took the shooter down. Kudos to them!