Found Deceased OR - Joshua McCoy, 5, Autism, goes by "Josh" or "Joshie", may not respond, missing when mom woke up frm nap at 5:30pm, Stage Rd, Hauser, 10 Nov 2024

[Chimera]

LE have been somewhat tight-lipped and that makes some of us uneasy.
Imo.

 

[Deleted member 296739]

LE have been somewhat tight-lipped and that makes some of us uneasy.
Imo.

Absolutely agree- moo

 

[Leilei]

LE have been somewhat tight-lipped and that makes some of us uneasy.
Imo.

Exactly.
IMO.

 

[iamshadow21]

I looked at the property records and I think the house sits on 6.7 acres. So it was probably pretty difficult to search especially in the dark. Maybe they could have expanded the search to outside the property sooner but I don't know if it would have mattered considering he ended up being found far beyond the anticipated search area for a little guy to have walked.

The anticipated search area strikes me as having been vastly inadequate. A fifth of a mile from the home? How many cases have we seen on here where even younger children have been found, alive or deceased, a mile, two, two and a half from their starting point?

Why were they looking so close to the home when Joshie didn't have a physical limitation that would have prevented him from doing what eloping toddlers and autistic kiddos do - walking until they reach their physical limits, meet an accidental end, or are found alive?

MOO

 

[Deleted member 296739]

The anticipated search area strikes me as having been vastly inadequate. A fifth of a mile from the home? How many cases have we seen on here where even younger children have been found, alive or deceased, a mile, two, two and a half from their starting point?

Why were they looking so close to the home when Joshie didn't have a physical limitation that would have prevented him from doing what eloping toddlers and autistic kiddos do - walking until they reach their physical limits, meet an accidental end, or are found alive?

MOO

I can only think there might have been some mitigating circumstances that we are unaware of..??… it seemed small to me, not the normal check your cameras BOLO for this or that- don’t know really- moo

 

[tlcya]

The anticipated search area strikes me as having been vastly inadequate. A fifth of a mile from the home? How many cases have we seen on here where even younger children have been found, alive or deceased, a mile, two, two and a half from their starting point?

Why were they looking so close to the home when Joshie didn't have a physical limitation that would have prevented him from doing what eloping toddlers and autistic kiddos do - walking until they reach their physical limits, meet an accidental end, or are found alive?

MOO

I guess it will depend on what comes next. When he died, how he died, did he die of exposure or misadventure like a fall or animal attack? etc. I think 1.6 to 2 miles from home through heavily wooded hazardous terrain is pretty dang far, especially if he had been dead for some time when finally located. If he carried himself there through the dark, the woods and underbrush and elements, he was one tough little bud. MOO

 

[Deleted member 296739]

I guess it will depend on what comes next. When he died, how he died, did he die of exposure or misadventure like a fall or animal attack? etc. I think 1.6 to 2 miles from home through heavily wooded hazardous terrain is pretty dang far, especially if he had been dead for some time when finally located. If he carried himself there through the dark, the woods and underbrush and elements, he was one tough little bud. MOO

Wasn’t it reported that they used heat/infrared to search for him? Wouldn’t that have indicated where he was at night? Maybe I’m misremembering

 

[iamshadow21]

I guess it will depend on what comes next. When he died, how he died, did he die of exposure or misadventure like a fall or animal attack? etc. I think 1.6 to 2 miles from home through heavily wooded hazardous terrain is pretty dang far, especially if he had been dead for some time when finally located. If he carried himself there through the dark, the woods and underbrush and elements, he was one tough little bud. MOO

Yeah, I think we're going to get a determination of accidental fall, exposure, or dehydration. Unless he was found in water, but I think they would have said if that was the case.

Kids are tougher than people give them credit for. And autistic and other spectrum kids often don't get the signals that they're tired, thirsty, hungry, etc. with the same clarity as neurotypical kids their own age, so they'll go for longer, until they can't. But any lost five year old can die in the woods, easily.

MOO

 

[Deleted member 296739]

Yeah, I think we're going to get a determination of accidental fall, exposure, or dehydration. Unless he was found in water, but I think they would have said if that was the case.

Kids are tougher than people give them credit for. And autistic and other spectrum kids often don't get the signals that they're tired, thirsty, hungry, etc. with the same clarity as neurotypical kids their own age, so they'll go for longer, until they can't. But any lost five year old can die in the woods, easily.

MOO

That’s the truth- sensory processing issues are very different between neurotypical kids and neurodivergent kids in my experience- hadn’t fully factored that into account- if he wandered off earlier than expected and went further than expected prior to an accident or mishap- it could be an extremely tragic series of accidental events- regardless- still so sad for all involved- moo

 

[iamshadow21]

Wasn’t it reported that they used heat/infrared to search for him? Wouldn’t that have indicated where he was at night? Maybe I’m misremembering

He's tiny, and you have to be pointing it at exactly the right place and looking at the screen to see it.

It also wouldn't have helped if they were only using it in the immediate vicinity of the home, when he was over a mile away.

MOO

 

[Deleted member 296739]

He's tiny, and you have to be pointing it at exactly the right place and looking at the screen to see it.

It also wouldn't have helped if they were only using it in the immediate vicinity of the home, when he was over a mile away.

MOO

Ok that’s understandable - thank you

 

[tiffkinsadder]

I’m sorry little guy.

 

[slowpoke]

Ok that’s understandable - thank you

And where he was located was in a wooded area that looks somewhat dense. Here’s a couple of screenshots from the video at this link :

 

[Deleted member 296739]

And where he was located was in a wooded area that looks somewhat dense. Here’s a couple of screenshots from the video at this link :

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Oh my- that’s dense- thank you

 

[getthefax]

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what I find curious and what doesn't align with any sort of foul play scenario is LE were careful to not allow the public to help because they didn't want any sort of "evidence" disturbed. And yet reports are that officer Justin Gray is the one who "carried" Josh from the forest. If LE suspect foul play I would think the body would not have been moved as the body and surrounding area would be a crime scene?

I think people thought if a little boy wandered off, they would want as many eyes as possible on the ground looking for him, as time would be of the essence.

The anticipated search area strikes me as having been vastly inadequate. A fifth of a mile from the home? How many cases have we seen on here where even younger children have been found, alive or deceased, a mile, two, two and a half from their starting point?

Why were they looking so close to the home when Joshie didn't have a physical limitation that would have prevented him from doing what eloping toddlers and autistic kiddos do - walking until they reach their physical limits, meet an accidental end, or are found alive?

MOO

The anticipated search area strikes me as having been vastly inadequate. A fifth of a mile from the home? How many cases have we seen on here where even younger children have been found, alive or deceased, a mile, two, two and a half from their starting point?

Why were they looking so close to the home when Joshie didn't have a physical limitation that would have prevented him from doing what eloping toddlers and autistic kiddos do - walking until they reach their physical limits, meet an accidental end, or are found alive?

MOO

Agree. Some of us were upset that at the beginning they didn’t allow more people to help search.
Either they made a colossal error, or they already suspected it would be a criminal investigation and didn’t want to take a chance on having evidence compromised.

 

[j_in_c]

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I think people thought if a little boy wandered off, they would want as many eyes as possible on the ground looking for him, as time would be of the essence.



Agree. Some of us were upset that at the beginning they didn’t allow more people to help search.
Either they made a colossal error, or they already suspected it would be a criminal investigation and didn’t want to take a chance on having evidence compromised.

The other reason to not allow others to assist in difficult terrain is to avoid creating a secondary incident with an untrained, unprepared volunteer getting lost, injured, etc.
They only have so many trained people and the search always starts at the last known location.
I will be very surprised if this ends up being anything but a tragic accident. Open to changing my mind if LE releases more info

 

[Flutterflies]

Uncle of 5-year-old boy found dead in Hauser speaks out on how family is holding up

 

[GRT]

Joshua's father wants answers and who can blame him?

“I want the truth, plain and simple,” the boy’s father, Lawson Amos McCoy, said. “I don’t care about anything else. My baby’s gone.”

Father of Coos County 5-year-old boy found dead wants answers: ‘I can’t believe this has happened’

The father of Joshua James McCoy said hasn’t talked to the boy’s mother in a year.

www.oregonlive.com

 

[Deleted member 296739]

Uncle of 5-year-old boy found dead in Hauser speaks out on how family is holding up

From the article- I hadn’t read about paternal grandmother wanting to adopt

“… my mom, she was devastated too because it was her grandbaby, and she wanted to adopt him."

 

[Kittypoo]

From the article- I hadn’t read about paternal grandmother wanting to adopt

“… my mom, she was devastated too because it was her grandbaby, and she wanted to adopt him."

This raises questions about the father and mother if grandmother wanted to adopt J. Why would you adopt if either parent were reliable? Strange
IMO