OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #13

[oceanblueeyes]

It sure is.
The only hope I have had is little man wandered off. My heart breaks for his family.

jmho

I know Boz! It is a sad day to see the case go in another direction.

I think all the LE searchers too hoped and prayed that Kyron had left on his own little adventure and they would find him dirty, hungry but alive.

Hope you are doing ok since your profound recent loss. xxxxoooo

IMO

 

[mamaeb]

This article--Kyron Horman Search May Have Suffered From Confluence of Delays--resulted in this response from the owner of the building where the pressers have been held.

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(Image credit: Williamette Weekly)

Maybe it's just me... but I didn't see anything critical of law enforcement in the Oregonian article. Anyone else?

oh... there is so much passion, anger in that note

this whole situation must really be hard on everyone in the area

 

[oceanblueeyes]

This article--Kyron Horman Search May Have Suffered From Confluence of Delays--resulted in this response from the owner of the building where the pressers have been held.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4056/4697517416_5307056cc9.jpg

(Image credit: Williamette Weekly)

Maybe it's just me... but I didn't see anything critical of law enforcement in the Oregonian article. Anyone else?

No I didnt.

It was directed at the school imo.

IMO

 

[DairyGirl]

Does anyone know if there are any active searches still going on? Or are they waiting for tips or other information?

 

[mom_of_five]

If that includes an accusation against the family you would be correct.

You can, however, feel free to post you opinion on events and infomration and more. As you can see plenty of people are posting theories surrounding the possibility that the family is responsible and they are doing a great job of making there opinions known without crossing the line.

What we are trying to do is show a modicum of respect for parents that were not considered suspects per early news reports. if that changes or proves to reported inaccurately we will absolutely open it up for more liberal discussion. We roll with LE and MSM, and try to follow the infomration revealed.

http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/06/08/mystery-in-oregon/

As for Kyron's mom and dad, investigators say they're not treating them as suspects. His parents are divorced--

I understand and have behaved accordingly (I haven't even stated my opinion in a roundabout way). I was helping with another poster's question. Hope I succeeded

 

[BOZGAL]

I know Boz! It is a sad day to see the case go in another direction.

I think all the LE searchers too hoped and prayed that Kyron had left on his own little adventure and they would find him dirty, hungry but alive.

Hope you are doing ok since your profound recent loss. xxxxoooo

IMO

Thank you Ocean

This is just so bad I could barely listen today so I can only imagine how those 4 grieving parents felt. Breaks my heart but this is not going to have a good ending. And to add in thoughts of JD or JC makes me physically ill. I pray LE can solve this sad case.

jmho

 

[SleuthyGal]

I too believe this was a case of opportunity given that it was not a typical school day. Kids running around/science fair, random people around, parents, etc. I don't believe Kyron was targeted per se, but he was likely lured by someone. He was obviously excited about his project and was an agreeable little boy, so someone asking him about his project would have provided an easy opening.

That's my current gut feeling for today anyway.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Does anyone know if there are any active searches still going on? Or are they waiting for tips or other information?

In the press conference they said they had search teams on stand-by to search targeted areas if needed, but the SAR operation is over.

 

[GrainneDhu]

The main reason is this: I was one of the ones who just KNEW that little Somer had fallen victim to a family member. Even now with the actual culprit in custody, my intellect knows the truth but my gut can't shake my original thought about family. Mostly b/c of things I learned about certain people that cast them in a questionable light. And countless people knew details about their personal life that I don't think anyone would want known to the public. Because much of it is different that my own values and lifestyle, I took it as evidence that they must be "bad" and involved in Somer's disappearance. In the end, they were all innocent. But because of what I know about their private lives, I now have to remind myself of that when I think of them: they're innocent.

I just want to say that this was one of the bravest, most honest posts I've ever read on a web forum.

 

[raeann]

I hope it is okay that I post this...

I am in the camp that has kept quiet b/c of what I think is *likely* to have happened - I have two different scenarios. With that being said, I'm not sure that I would like to be able to freely say in these forums everything that I am thinking. The main reason is this: I was one of the ones who just KNEW that little Somer had fallen victim to a family member. Even now with the actual culprit in custody, my intellect knows the truth but my gut can't shake my original thought about family. Mostly b/c of things I learned about certain people that cast them in a questionable light. And countless people knew details about their personal life that I don't think anyone would want known to the public. Because much of it is different that my own values and lifestyle, I took it as evidence that they must be "bad" and involved in Somer's disappearance. In the end, they were all innocent. But because of what I know about their private lives, I now have to remind myself of that when I think of them: they're innocent.

I still have my hunches here, and am sleuthing in private. And I'm okay with that. I think it's important not to permanently imprint into people brains (and the internet) that someone is guilty of something as serious as murder. Even if innocent, being guilty in the eyes of the public can have devastating consequences on someone's life.

Hope this makes sense.

Thank you for that statement! I too think that everyone is entitled to interpret for themselves what they choose to think....just not to post it on this forum.

PLEASE everyone, remember that every word put on here about this family is there forever unless you choose to delete it. There are innocent children of this family who can easily read every word being said about their family on here. Those kid's friends can read every word. Even when it is later proven untrue, that pain will still be in the hearts and minds of this family and all who know them. These comments will be able to be "Googled" for the rest of their lives, by colleges, employers, girl friends parents, etc.

Maybe there is a chance that some accusations here will prove to be true, but there is a very high probability that these family members are totally, completely innocent victims. I could never justify for myself the horror of having something that I may have said or speculated causing these people more agony than what they are already experiencing.

jmoo

 

[s_finch]

Respectfully, I disagree that pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated. FBI statistics show that the recidivism rate for pedophiles is actually the same or lower than that for other crimes.

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Would you kindly post a link to these FBI statistics, thank you.

 

[ralph_wiggum]

... The only hope I have had is little man wandered off. My heart breaks for his family.

jmho

taking into account the poor kid's family dynamics, each set of parents and step-parents have their own set of ex's and their respective parents (as in the kid's grandparents + step-grandparents), very crowded...

i was actually hoping he was taken by grandparents, that way at least he would have been well fed and taken care of, relatively that is. then it would've been just a matter of finding gramps plus missing boy. i don't see how a 50lb scrawny 7yr old boy could survive out in the woods for this long. unfortunately the yreka california leads didn't pan out. my theory of motivation was maybe gramps decided to take matters in his/her own hands at say maybe a custody battle, or for a strict religious upbringing of sorts.

my thinking originally was who had a vested interest in the boy...

 

[momtective]

I'm thinking LE is looking for video of a specific vehicle that was scouting the area of interest within the 3 days prior to Kyron going missing...someone making a trial run if you will.

 

[BeanE]

I hope it is okay that I post this...

I am in the camp that has kept quiet b/c of what I think is *likely* to have happened - I have two different scenarios. With that being said, I'm not sure that I would like to be able to freely say in these forums everything that I am thinking. The main reason is this: I was one of the ones who just KNEW that little Somer had fallen victim to a family member. Even now with the actual culprit in custody, my intellect knows the truth but my gut can't shake my original thought about family. Mostly b/c of things I learned about certain people that cast them in a questionable light. And countless people knew details about their personal life that I don't think anyone would want known to the public. Because much of it is different that my own values and lifestyle, I took it as evidence that they must be "bad" and involved in Somer's disappearance. In the end, they were all innocent. But because of what I know about their private lives, I now have to remind myself of that when I think of them: they're innocent.

I still have my hunches here, and am sleuthing in private. And I'm okay with that. I think it's important not to permanently imprint into people brains (and the internet) that someone is guilty of something as serious as kidnapping and/or murder. Even if innocent, being guilty in the eyes of the public can have devastating consequences on someone's life.

Hope this makes sense.

You are now one of my heros.

Thank you for that.

:blowkiss:

 

[Dee10]

I believe it was Friday night, a poster on here mentioned she was speaking to a searcher who IIRC they were asking for bottled water, etc. donations for the search until Tues. If the searcher did have accurate info. this leads me to believe LE has had some break in the case to change the direction to a criminal investigation. I don't think it was a witness from the school or they would have probably come forward sooner I would think. I would like to believe they are focusing on someone and are now gathering evidence for an arrest. It would not surprise me at all if we see a confession before an arrest. ~ Just some thoughts.

 

[cakegirl0905]

If taking photos of your own kids at school events is considered suspicious activity, I would have been locked up years ago.

I don't understand the reasoning that it is suspicious that she took a photo of Kyron. It's normal to take photos of your kids at school events! Bizarre thinking/accusation.

 

[lillygator]

Respectfully, I disagree that pedophiles cannot be rehabilitated. FBI statistics show that the recidivism rate for pedophiles is actually the same or lower than that for other crimes.

In this case, the context in which I recall LE saying that this was an isolated incident was in relation to questions about the other students returning to the school. In that sense, LE is almost overwhelmingly guaranteed to be correct; I cannot recall nor can I find a single case of a child being abducted from inside an elementary school and then having a repeat incident at the same school within 2-4 weeks (which would cover the remainder of the school year).

Right now, that school is probably the safest place for children in the USA. It is surrounded by LEOs who are on the lookout for any sort of suspicious activity. If my child went to that school, I wouldn't automatically keep my child at home. They would be safer in that school than they would be buckled into their child safety seats in my vehicle.

can you show some stats to rehabed pedo's???? I will never ever believe they can change.....ever

 

[cluciano63]

I'm staying off this thread now until something new happens. Have been mostly following along in hopes Kyron would be found but now that seems unlikely anytime soon without anyone officially looking for him. That is a very sad thought.

 

[squeaky]

FBI statistics show that the recidivism rate for pedophiles is actually the same or lower than that for other crimes.

I find this extremely hard to believe. I hope you can produce some sort of source for these statistics.

 

[momtective]

I hope it is okay that I post this...

I am in the camp that has kept quiet b/c of what I think is *likely* to have happened - I have two different scenarios. With that being said, I'm not sure that I would like to be able to freely say in these forums everything that I am thinking. The main reason is this: I was one of the ones who just KNEW that little Somer had fallen victim to a family member. Even now with the actual culprit in custody, my intellect knows the truth but my gut can't shake my original thought about family. Mostly b/c of things I learned about certain people that cast them in a questionable light. And countless people knew details about their personal life that I don't think anyone would want known to the public. Because much of it is different that my own values and lifestyle, I took it as evidence that they must be "bad" and involved in Somer's disappearance. In the end, they were all innocent. But because of what I know about their private lives, I now have to remind myself of that when I think of them: they're innocent.

I still have my hunches here, and am sleuthing in private. And I'm okay with that. I think it's important not to permanently imprint into people brains (and the internet) that someone is guilty of something as serious as kidnapping and/or murder. Even if innocent, being guilty in the eyes of the public can have devastating consequences on someone's life.

Hope this makes sense.

I am guilty in Kyron's case and I sincerely apologize. The points you made are very valid and I know how horrible I felt for Somer's mother...I was one who never for a moment thought she was responsible for Somer's disappearance. I should really give Kyron's family the same respect.