OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #7

[Wise Old Owl]

bbm

That is interesting that you think it is a woman.

If you read our astrological thread (they are really very very good) you will see that they have said it is a woman as well.

Have we heard any mention of the grandmothers? On either side? Usually they are there especially to help with the other children.

 

[CCup]

At this point, I don' think he just wandered away and is lost. What gets me is that the investigation is only local. So they don't believe he ever left the area? Does that mean the town? county? state?

 

[Angel4u2Whisper2]

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/06/st_helens_police_arrest_man_ac.html

Has this been discussed?

I think it has been mentioned. I don't have recall of what threds it was on the board is moving quickly.

How far away is that and did he have access to a car? I guess are my first questions. He has been listed as "homeless". He attempted to grab him while he was walking.

 

[CCup]

http://www.oregonlive.com/news/index.ssf/2010/06/st_helens_police_arrest_man_ac.html

Has this been discussed?

Very interesting! Thanks

 

[CCup]

If he is homeless, where was he going to go with this kid if he was successful? The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me!

 

[gibby207]

They have a criminal profiler on this case and I believe he told them to release Kyron's artwork as a means to humanize him to the kidnapper. I also believe that everything that LE and the family is saying or not saying is also per the direction of the profiler--that would include LE's statements that the family is free to talk yet the family not talking--it's all being done for a reason. One thing that I find startling that makes me think that it's an abduction is that LE has not stated that they are concerned with Kyron being out in the elements for such an extended period especially with the bad weather they had at the beginning--(and if I am wrong feel free to correct me). I also believe there is a strong possibility that the kidnapper knows the family, knows Kyron, possibly had a prior relationship with him (neighbor? babysitter?) and is a woman.

I am strongly agreeing with you here... and a person who knows the family well. I posted that a thread or 2 ago as a feeler and didn't get much response lol. I have to keep my opinions to myself due to forum rules but I agree it's possibly someone they know. Ransom? I dunno, but it's definitely a possibility.

 

[scandi]

The reason I would think it was a woman is the focus on Kyron. If she wants him for herself she isn't going to care about the family. She might care about what Kyron needs though.

I just saw a Criminal Minds rerun where a boy about 5 went missing and they profiled it to be a female perp who had recently lost a young child. Sure enough it was. She had him in a big closet area and would take him out to nurse him.

I think it is more rare but does happen.

 

[mamaeb]

I really hope all parents and teachers have turned in their cameras from friday... who knows what police may see in the background of a picture or random video. What about school bus video cameras? I know they have them and they can see a bit outside of the bus, such as cars and people right behind the bus.

Also I hope when people are keeping an eye out, they are also looking for him without glasses, squinting. Because that will be the first thing the kidnapper will get rid of, I am sure.

 

[RubyRed]

If you read our astrological thread (they are really very very good) you will see that they have said it is a woman as well.

Have we heard any mention of the grandmothers? On either side? Usually they are there especially to help with the other children.

I haven't read it yet. I am going between Kyron's scanner thread and here. I will feel more hopeful for Kyron if it is a woman.

 

[JBean]

No problem discussing events, but you are getting dangerously close to accusing the family of something and that is not ok at this time. They are currently potential victims of a crime to their child and I don't know that LE has made any noises about them being connected to the crime.
Please tread lightly. I am not editing or removing anything. I am asking you all to please be thoughtful in your discussion.


of course where this post lands on the thread is entirely random.

 

[mushyb]

I too think it could be a women that took Kyron. I think of the Tori Stafford case where she was taken by a woman after school for her and her boyfriends sick needs

 

[gibby207]

Here's something to mention without getting in trouble (I think): With the mention of those 2 specific cases Kim and Boekhle (which I know about as well as I'm in WA), I had the thought that he may be with someone he knows and possibly camping? What do yawl think?

ETA: Is this okay JBean?

 

[flourish]

Another possible motive for kidnapping (aside from $) may be a disgruntled co-worker or former co-worker of someone in the family.

Is it too weird to think maybe it could relate to some of Intel's technology? As in, they aren't targeting this family for money, but for intelligence or something? I used to date a guy who worked at Intel (years ago), and they, understandably, have to keep a lot of info top secret. I know that sounds kind of ridiculously movie-ish, but I'm just brainstorming here.

While I'm rambling...

Has anyone read that Mary Higgins Clark book...something like "Two Girls in Blue" or something? It's about these people who kidnap the twin girls of a family that they mistakenly think has a lot of money and/or resources simply because of where the guy worked and because they had a big house (which was super old and they were renovating)...I never finished reading it because it was kinda slow...but this case keeps reminding me of that...


Up until today I've been leaning towards older student or sibling of a student, but now...I just don't know...

*sigh*

 

[Chili Fries]

It sounds like the search on Thursday will be the biggest one yet. The sheriff's office says so far they have combed a half mile radius. I find that surprising, I guess it's a testament to just how thick the forested area is.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_search_enters_sev.html

 

[mommya]

OK - last night or yesterday poster Tarabull chimed in from the scanner thread about hearing of a possible sighting of missing child in a white VW (link - [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5266106&postcount=506"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OR OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #5[/ame] ) then LE switched to nextels so that she could not hear the rest - I dont know what became of it - but.....

I was just perusing IS boards and came across some folks talking about the kid in this vid looking like Kyron ( [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4p2VK2AYTM[/ame] )
- near the end at 1:07 - and lo and behold - the car looks like a white VW.

Pic of white VW for comparison - notice the mirrors...

Could be an innocent explanation I suppose? Just a kid who looks a lot like Kyron? I sure hope they checked this out!

 

[CCup]

Has anyone read that Mary Higgins Clark book...something like "Two Girls in Blue" or something? It's about these people who kidnap the twin girls of a family that they mistakenly think has a lot of money and/or resources simply because of where the guy worked and because they had a big house (which was super old and they were renovating)...I never finished reading it because it was kinda slow...but this case keeps reminding me of that...

*sigh*

Loved that book!!

 

[Voice4theSilent]

Two people on the "Missing KH" FB page have stated the the bio-mom is married to a very well respected and decorated detective. (Don't know if that information has been mentioned yet or not.) I haven't really heard much of anything about Kyron's step father. Interesting if it is true.

 

[mamaeb]

OK - last night or yesterday poster Tarabull chimed in from the scanner thread about hearing of a possible sighting of missing child in a white VW (link - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OR OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #5 ) then LE switched to nextels so that she could not hear the rest - I dont know what became of it - but.....

I was just perusing IS boards and came across some folks talking about the kid in this vid looking like Kyron ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4p2VK2AYTM )
- near the end at 1:07 - and lo and behold - the car looks like a white VW.

Pic of white VW for comparison - notice the mirrors...

Could be an innocent explanation I suppose? Just a kid who looks a lot like Kyron? Isure hope they checked this out!

wow!!

 

[cluciano63]

They did say today at the PC that all alleged sightings have been checked out and none were viable...

 

[AlexisFresca]

If you read our astrological thread (they are really very very good) you will see that they have said it is a woman as well.

Have we heard any mention of the grandmothers? On either side? Usually they are there especially to help with the other children.

Thanks for the heads up; I did find it.