OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #7

[CCup]

OK - last night or yesterday poster Tarabull chimed in from the scanner thread about hearing of a possible sighting of missing child in a white VW (link - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OR OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #5 ) then LE switched to nextels so that she could not hear the rest - I dont know what became of it - but.....

I was just perusing IS boards and came across some folks talking about the kid in this vid looking like Kyron ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4p2VK2AYTM )
- near the end at 1:07 - and lo and behold - the car looks like a white VW.

Pic of white VW for comparison - notice the mirrors...

Could be an innocent explanation I suppose? Just a kid who looks a lot like Kyron? I sure hope they checked this out!

Wow! I would sure hope if that was Kyron LE would have noticed him!! Maybe reporter or video guy was who called that in

 

[Miss Justice]

OK - last night or yesterday poster Tarabull chimed in from the scanner thread about hearing of a possible sighting of missing child in a white VW (link - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OR OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #5 ) then LE switched to nextels so that she could not hear the rest - I dont know what became of it - but.....

I was just perusing IS boards and came across some folks talking about the kid in this vid looking like Kyron ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4p2VK2AYTM )
- near the end at 1:07 - and lo and behold - the car looks like a white VW.

Pic of white VW for comparison - notice the mirrors...

Could be an innocent explanation I suppose? Just a kid who looks a lot like Kyron? I sure hope they checked this out!

I honestly think the only thing about the boy in the video that "looks like Kyron" is the fact that he's a little boy with glasses on. Different face, different ears, different hair.

MOO of course.

 

[gibby207]

If you read our astrological thread (they are really very very good) you will see that they have said it is a woman as well.

Have we heard any mention of the grandmothers? On either side? Usually they are there especially to help with the other children.

Can you give a girl a hand and help me figger out where in the Astrology forum? Thanks!

 

[AlexisFresca]

I too think it could be a women that took Kyron. I think of the Tori Stafford case where she was taken by a woman after school for her and her boyfriends sick needs

Exactly! Same here.

 

[gibby207]

It sounds like the search on Thursday will be the biggest one yet. The sheriff's office says so far they have combed a half mile radius. I find that surprising, I guess it's a testament to just how thick the forested area is.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/06/kyron_horman_search_enters_sev.html

I agree... which also makes me wonder if some new information came to light as of today even...

 

[butterfly1978]

I am on page four of this thread and I'm not sure if the ideas around here have changed since page four, but this irritates me a bit. I stated 3 days ago that I beleived this may be a ransom situation and listed all the reasons why I beleived that, and was quickly shot down. So why all of the sudden have we agreed to entertain this possibility, as it will be imposable for me to go through 7 threads to find what I posted, but I did post where Kyron's dad was a business architect for Intel along with a link.
So I figured I must be crazy thinking such a thing and started looking at other things such as it being a Elizabeth Olten situation, and now you guys are where I was a few days ago... Okay enough of my rant, do we know or is there anyway to find out if there are recent people from Intel who may have been laid off or fired?

 

[Kimster]

For those that missed this earlier, JBean made a new sub forum in the Missing! forum. Here's the link to Kyron's media and pic links: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5271285&posted=1#post5271285

 

[SuziQ]

I've been looking this up and can't find any for money, other than a few celebrities kids, since the 30's, in the US...

There was the Chowchilla school bus kidnapping. Those perps were nuts to ever think they would get away with that.

 

[Wendy101]

Me too Lava, but am wondering why she thinks the unsub is a woman unless she lost a child and Kyron reminds her of him.

Or it's a woman green with envy of the SM?

Maybe that is why SM (to some people) appears to be adjusting well, going to the gym, not changing the FB pic to a picture of Kyron insead of her lil girl.
Maybe the criminal profiler suggested to the SM not to react in an irrational manner.
Maybe that is why there is no family in the media..
Maybe sending the picture out of the squirrel, was a message to Kyron, from the SM, that she loves him?

Maybe if the step-mother got onto the TV bawling, crying and pleading, it would only add more fuel to the fire... To see her face on TV might push whoever took Kyron over the edge?

OK, I'm done guessing now...

 

[mamaeb]

am I allowed to post links to comments from Kyron's aunt?

 

[nanny2five]

My family and I are locals to the area and my son who is KH's age brought up a very profound point. (this is coming from a little guy) " I think who ever took him needs to know what he likes to do for fun so he does not get too sad being away from his family and that is why they are showing his drawings, that he loves to play soccer and he likes to goof off and have fun." (talking about the photo with the easter basket/truck on his head). So that is my 8 yr olds:twocents:. He has been very concerned about this and is scared to go to school.

what a sensitive and smart little guy you have! they do pay attention and understand more than we realize i bet he's a little dandy!

 

[Angel4u2Whisper2]

Zaha

That is possiable but I recall the family released aprox. 50 photographs of the family so that would kinda cause the woman the greenest eyes you ever seen because it would be of the family she wished she had if that were the case?

 

[SoCalSleuth]

Obviously, we are all speculating here, perhaps wild speculation at that. My theories are either this was a kidnapping for ransom gone awry--ie perhaps a mixup (rare, yes, but it has been known to happen) or that someone close or familiar with the family (female) took him. Both theories are based on the bizarre behavior of LE in this case. They could be inept because they don't have much, if any, experience in these matters--but the FBI would have corrected that pretty early on. As far as has been reported, Kyron wasn't wearing a jacket, and it's been raining and cold (about 55 degrees at night)--yet they haven't commented on hypothermia or showed any concern related to his being subject to the elements for an extended period, or at all. Further, if the elements were a concern (and they should be if he is lost in the woods) & they were looking for a "live Kyron" they would have stepped-up the search, as they did today, much earlier. That's why I think they know or believe he was kidnapped. (Of course, they could believe he is deceased which would also explain their behavior but I hate to go there just yet--the Sheriff got me at "We're going to bring you home, buddy.") Most crimes are committed by people that know the victim--that is why LE first looks to the immediate family and then from there looks in degrees of familiarity with the victim. I believe a young boy would be more willing to walk off with a female than with a male--even if he knew the male. I think it is more probable than not that a woman might "blend" easier in a crowd than a male; that others would not take much notice of a woman with a young boy. Women that cannot have children of their own most often kidnap babies but also young children. Both are rare, but it happens. I am positive the artwork pix were to humanize him to the kidnapper per the profile (they may not know who it is but believe they have a profile of who it is) and that art pictures would strike a chord more in a woman than a male. I also believe that per the profiler, LE is communicating with the kidnapper at these press conferences --and what they have been saying leads me to believe they think it's a woman.

 

[Kimster]

am I allowed to post links to comments from Kyron's aunt?

If they are from the mainstream media, yes

 

[mamaeb]

If they are from the mainstream media, yes

Ok I hope I am linking this right.. and of course it's 4 days ago so this may have been posted

http://www.katu.com/news/local/95669809.html#idc-container

You can read a post there by "kittysaunt" who claims to be kyrons aunt

 

[gibby207]

Obviously, we are all speculating here, perhaps wild speculation at that. My theories are either this was a kidnapping for ransom gone awry--ie perhaps a mixup (rare, yes, but it has been known to happen) or that someone close or familiar with the family (female) took him. Both theories are based on the bizarre behavior of LE in this case. They could be inept because they don't have much, if any, experience in these matters--but the FBI would have corrected that pretty early on. As far as has been reported, Kyron wasn't wearing a jacket, and it's been raining and cold (about 55 degrees at night)--yet they haven't commented on hypothermia or showed any concern related to his being subject to the elements for an extended period, or at all. Further, if the elements were a concern (and they should be if he is lost in the woods) & they were looking for a "live Kyron" they would have stepped-up the search, as they did today, much earlier. That's why I think they know or believe he was kidnapped. (Of course, they could believe he is deceased which would also explain their behavior but I hate to go there just yet--the Sheriff got me at "We're going to bring you home, buddy.") Most crimes are committed by people that know the victim--that is why LE first looks to the immediate family and then from there looks in degrees of familiarity with the victim. I believe a young boy would be more willing to walk off with a female than with a male--even if he knew the male. I think it is more probable than not that a woman might "blend" easier in a crowd than a male; that others would not take much notice of a woman with a young boy. Woman that cannot have children of their own most often kidnap babies but also young children. Both are rare, but it happens. I am positive the artwork pix were to humanize him to the kidnapper per the profile (they may not know who it is but believe they have a profile of who it is) and that art pictures would strike a chord more in a woman than a male. I also believe that per the profiler, LE is communicating with the kidnapper at these press conferences --and what they have been saying leads me to believe they think it's a woman.

Well, I don't have to post my thoughts because you just did in a nice neat lil' bow. lol We don't have much to sleuth on, folks, so it's just down to speculation and throwing theories out in the wind.

I would also like to throw out there how much different does everyone think the LE/FBI response in searching Kyron would be if they believed it were a stranger abduction? I'm inclined to believe (or hope, really) that they would warn the community more if it were a stranger abduction. Loose lips sink ships, and maybe LE's got this thing nailed. I'm more hopeful today, at least, that we are looking for a live Kylon (thankfully).

 

[butterfly1978]

There was the Chowchilla school bus kidnapping. Those perps were nuts to ever think they would get away with that.

I am checking for child abductions involving ransoms, and how Fbi handles this, the only thing that I can really find is that in child abductions involving ransom CARD is called in, which we already knew, will continue to look.

 

[carole]

OK - last night or yesterday poster Tarabull chimed in from the scanner thread about hearing of a possible sighting of missing child in a white VW (link - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OR OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #5 ) then LE switched to nextels so that she could not hear the rest - I dont know what became of it - but.....

I was just perusing IS boards and came across some folks talking about the kid in this vid looking like Kyron ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4p2VK2AYTM )
- near the end at 1:07 - and lo and behold - the car looks like a white VW.

Pic of white VW for comparison - notice the mirrors...

Could be an innocent explanation I suppose? Just a kid who looks a lot like Kyron? I sure hope they checked this out!

Wow, that is quite chilling to see, especially because of the info coming in from the scanner.

 

[crocus]

How about a scenario where he was asked to help carry something in to the school from a car?

 

[gibby207]

How about a scenario where he was asked to help carry something in to the school from a car?

Helping a friend... good angle...